Ode to the Nice Guys

[ckBejug]

Girls don't gravitate to guys who are jerks. They gravitate to guys who have confidence. This is not to be confused with arrogance. A guy who says to the world "I know how to please my woman" has the sexiest thing going for him, he exudes confidence in himself. It has nothing to do with being an adonis who is rich and powerful. It's all about the confidence he has in himself and what he knows his abilities are.

That said, I also don't think any sane girl would look around and choose to go for the really jerky guy. (Although with some girls, you never know I guess. But these are the chemically imbalanced girls you probably want to stay away from ) I think guys just kindof sometimes become jerks. I'm sure in the beginning they're pleasant and such and then I don't know, for some reason they try to remind themselves that they're the guy and need to grunt and be jerky to prove it. It sounds werid but that's the best way I can describe it. And then the girl goes complaing to her guy 'friend' who is always there to listen and wondering why she doesn't go out with a nice guy like HIM instead. Here's one reason you silly boy, you haven't ASKED!

[Anonymouse]

Girls do gravitate towards guys who are jerks. The point is, girls like a holes. That is a law, tested and perfected time and time again. The more you treat a girl like crap the more she likes it. The less attention you pay to her the more she wants you. The more you put down her self esteem the more she likes you. Girls say "Oh I like nice guys" but it's just a front they pull for when the a hole treats them. Nice guys are there to listen, a holes are there to score.

To the Genuine_Stud guy. If you want girls to stop treating you like a friend or like crap, you gotta treat them like crap. Girls don't like nice guys. Get over it. Never let a girls ego burst. Go to a bar, sit there, have a drink. Act like you're too hip for the room, like you got other shyt to do. I guarantee you chicks walk up to you and want to talk to you. Hey it's true women are attention hores. When she comes up to you, never compliment her, don't tell her she looks nice, or whatever. Keep it plain. Don't let her meet your friends or family or know where you live.

To the rest of you who give this crappy advice for guys to be nice, that is hogwash. To any guy reading this. If you wanna score, get chicks, and not get treated as crap, you have to be the jerk, otherwise the women will be the jerk. That is the way it goes. On the other side of the issue, if being nice is your thing and you like relationships, then fine, be nice, but that isn't gonna get you laid or gonna get you respect from the ladies.

[Crimson Glow]

Damn it, moog. I've never agreed with any post written on the net more than this last one from you. From start to finish, you nailed it. And if you girls disagree or think you're not guilty of this, take a long, hard look at your behavior. Most people are oblivious to their own nature. You'll find some interesting things if you annalyze your behavior a bit.

The above post gets the official "Glowing" seal of approval.

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I fail to see the logic in this.

[sSsflamesSs]

My guess is that not too many of you men read ck's post. It's confidence we look for, not assh0ledness (is that even a word?). You're confusing niceness with desparation - those two are completely different.

[hyebruin]

with younger girls yeahh...they don't know any better so they fall for anything....and i'm not claiming to be an exception we all become enlightened as we get older...NOW when a guy acts like some arrogant s**t i tell him to 'lose my number and i don't want games'...when you KNOW what you want and what is good for ya, you don't put up with crap...

guys can be polite/nice/mannered (whatever you wanna call it) AND hot and sexy (physically as well as attitude wise)

if you're done playing games, you can't help but be nice and respectful...

nice is NOT desperate..nice is calling every day..once a day or once every other day...desperate is calling 5 times a day!!! on a regular basis excluding 'emergencies' or what not

[Crimson Glow]

My guess is that not too many of you men read ck's post. It's confidence we look for, not assh0ledness (is that even a word?). You're confusing niceness with desparation - those two are completely different.

No. I read the post perfectly well. Our point was, women like men who treat them like dirt. Where the hell does men with confidence come into that? Women CRAVE abuse, be it because they like the drama, or what have you. The "whys" haven't fully been understood, yet. Men that think "I know how to please a woman"? No, the guys most girls end up with think "I know how to put a woman in her place; Beneath me." THAT'S the only confidence the men that most women pick have.

[SagGal]

It is so stupid for people to start sentences such as, "Girls like..." or "Guys like..." It always depends on the person and not the gender. Surely the same gender has a similar idea or w/e, but never assume it's the same.

I don't know about your definiton of a nice guy, but to me it is a guy who listens and some nice guys are very secretive because they're shy. A nice guy can be a girl's best friend and he later reveals himself to a girl in a different way, good way. I don't know why a lot of people think of nice guys being very boring and whipped by the girls. NOT TRUE AT ALL.

Some girls like bad guys just for the fun. It always depends on the girl.

If you wanna score, get chicks, and not get treated as crap, you have to be the jerk, otherwise the women will be the jerk. That is the way it goes. On the other side of the issue, if being nice is your thing and you like relationships, then fine, be nice, but that isn't gonna get you laid or gonna get you respect from the ladies.

Now that just describes a jerk..........well, in my opinion.

[xBaron Dants]

I'm a nice guy.

But not annoyingly stupidly "I love her. alas, she will never love me" nice. Does that count?

[Inna]

Girls do gravitate towards guys who are jerks. The point is, girls like a holes. That is a law, tested and perfected time and time again. The more you treat a girl like crap the more she likes it. The less attention you pay to her the more she wants you. The more you put down her self esteem the more she likes you. Girls say "Oh I like nice guys" but it's just a front they pull for when the a hole treats them. Nice guys are there to listen, a holes are there to score.

To the Genuine_Stud guy. If you want girls to stop treating you like a friend or like crap, you gotta treat them like crap. Girls don't like nice guys. Get over it. Never let a girls ego burst. Go to a bar, sit there, have a drink. Act like you're too hip for the room, like you got other shyt to do. I guarantee you chicks walk up to you and want to talk to you. Hey it's true women are attention hores. When she comes up to you, never compliment her, don't tell her she looks nice, or whatever. Keep it plain. Don't let her meet your friends or family or know where you live.

To the rest of you who give this crappy advice for guys to be nice, that is hogwash. To any guy reading this. If you wanna score, get chicks, and not get treated as crap, you have to be the jerk, otherwise the women will be the jerk. That is the way it goes. On the other side of the issue, if being nice is your thing and you like relationships, then fine, be nice, but that isn't gonna get you laid or gonna get you respect from the ladies.

that is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard..what kind of woman wants a man who degrades her?? It is true though that there are women who perfer dating the "bad boy" type, but I don't think any woman would actually consider marrying him..its just a phase that some women go through and think it would be "fun" to date a bad boy...but when it comes down to the man we want to spend the rest of our lives with it is the type of man that CK described...if any woman approaches the guy you describe at the bar..then she is only looking for a one night stand and nothing more. Just face it women are too complicating and no man would fully be able to understand them...so instead of making up stories about what a woman wants..why dont you(and not just Anon, I'm stating this for every man out there) to start listening to the women.