Interracial Relationships.

[loseyourname]

All right guys, enough with the personal attacks. Any further posts addressed to this argument, and not to the topic at hand, will be deleted, and whoever posts them will be warned.

[loseyourname]

btw where's mousey?

Click on the AIM symbol beneath his name and ask him.

[angelik22]

okie someones got some issues here...no need to be rude to me!

[loseyourname]

I'm not being rude. I wasn't aware whether or not you knew that you could click on the buttons and communicate with the posters here using means other than this forum. Excuse me for trying to be helpful.

[hyebruin]

being with an armenian is the definition of complete physical, emotional, and spiritual fulfillment, and when he speaks or whispers in armenian that's when he gently tickles and plucks your heartstrings and welcomes you home

[SagGal]

That doesn't make any sense. Someone from the relationship will just randomly not accept their partner's traditions anymore??? Is it some kind of magical spell that gets cast on one of them? Or does one think that the traditions of the other are going to disappear after a few years of marriage, and when it doesn't, they get ticked off??

Firstly, it makes sense but it doesn't make sense to you because you disagree and don't understand.
Secondly, come now, you're old enough to know that there are no magical spells and neather of what you asked is answered with a YES. They will not "...randomply not accept their partner's traditions..." but they will have doubts about them in the marriage. And not "someone" but both of them. I am basing this on what I see and you don't see that, which is why you don't understand.

I'm failing to understand the reasoning, which is why I pointed out the obvious to you in my last post.

Because you didn't understand what I was saying in my post you are going to back to your last post and say that it was obvious?! How pathetic.

[Crimson Glow]

Firstly, it makes sense but it doesn't make sense to you because you disagree and don't understand.
Secondly, come now, you're old enough to know that there are no magical spells and neather of what you asked is answered with a YES. They will not "...randomply not accept their partner's traditions..." but they will have doubts about them in the marriage. And not "someone" but both of them. I am basing this on what I see and you don't see that, which is why you don't understand..

Yeah, I guess I don't understand.....why anything should be different after a marriage vs. before. I guess what I'm getting at, which you seem to be misunderstand me on, is that breaking up over culture, customs, and traditions that were there long before 2 people got married is a weak scapegoat for deeper issues the couple has with one another. If there were ANY doubts what so ever about the partner's traditions, they shouldn't have gotten married to this person who they're going to spend the rest of their lives with (supposedly, anyway) in the first place.

Because you didn't understand what I was saying in my post you are going to back to your last post and say that it was obvious?! How pathetic.

I wasn't resorting to anything off the previous post. I was just trying to explain why I.... "stated the obvious", as you had implied with your response of "Well, DUH!" I understood what you were saying perfectly, but what you didn't seem to realize is that you're actually describing irresponsible adults, as explained in my above paragraph/response. Such things should be taken into deep and thorough consideration long before marriage is even brought up, let alone before getting married. One should be a bit more carefull with choosing the person he/she is going to marry. Is that so much to ask? Why the hostility, Saggy?

[Crimson Glow]

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Owie...

You know, considering how much bashing we get here in L.A., I'm tempted to come out and visit you guys and see how great everything is... but I swear, for the crap we get out here, Armenians in other parts of the country better be xxxxing gold.

Jinxee, you're missing the point of what I said. Armenians in other parts of the country are scattered far and few in between. Sure there are some semi-decent sized communities here and there, but they are NOTHING compared to the South Cali area. Not even CLOSE. The VAST majority of this nation has never heard of Armenians, as I've said numerous times, and am sure is a difficult concept for Cali Armos to grasp, so, there's nothing to compare Cali Armos against.

My point wasn't that Armos in different parts of the country are better. My point was that.....(stands up and gets into his Al Pacino mode).....

there, in the midst of the deeply rooted Hyegaganutuin that is South Cali, where being Armenian means everything to decendants of our nationality, where everyone speaks, reads, and writes in Armenian, attends Armenian schooling and camps, celebrates all the holidays, marries within the IAN/YANs to breed more children that will eat, sleep, and breath our heritage, there is an upauling and alarming amount of speakers of butchered forms of our language (slang), Armenian wiggers who show hatred towards different "types" of Armos (while showing "much love" for da brothas), a lack of knowledge about our history and ancestory, a lack of interest in adding significance in the arts for our people, etc. We show our pride by dressing like blacks and calling each other nigga', while were waving the Armenian flags and yelling "Armenian pride". We show our pride by paying for our meals with food stamps, yet somehow managing to drive a Mercedes. We show our pride by trying to upstage our fellow Armenian neighbor in material possessions WORSE than "Americans" do (AKA Keeping up with the Gevorgians).

Now does this apply to all of So Cal? Of course not! I never claimed this. But my point was, over there were it's so important to marry within the nationality to keep the culture alive, why have things gone so horribly wrong? Why are there children born to 100% Armos who don't seem to grasp what our culture and history is about? Why are so many of them such total crap? This was supposed to be the main defense/reason for marrying within culture. But as you can see, it has failed miserably, thus supporting my argument that marrying an Armenian in no way secures the "keeping of the heritage". As I tried to explain over and over again, we are in America. Try as you may, you can't survive in someone else's country without adapting the majority of its ways. And after several generations of gradual soaking in, weather you marry an Armenian or not, it will eventually saturate you, and take almost complete control. I wish this wasn't the way things were, but it is the reality of the situation, like it or not.

[hyebruin]

staying armenian is an INDIVIDUAL choice and it happens ONE FAMILY AT A TIME! no one is trying to 'save' all of the disaspora by him/herself...just do your part and don't worry so much about others...

[Crimson Glow]

staying armenian is an INDIVIDUAL choice and it happens ONE FAMILY AT A TIME! no one is trying to 'save' all of the disaspora by him/herself...just do your part and don't worry so much about others...

In case you didn't notice, this thread isn't about staying Armenian, it's about marrying one to create more Armenians to save and spread the diaspora. If it was about staying Armenian, I think we all have that covered and we wouldn't have needed this thread. You personally staying Armenian has nothing to do with who you marry.