Armenian men-cheaters or faithful?

[anileve]

Don't be silly, Ryan.

Welcome back "Nimrod", I hope you'll enjoy your short stay. How is your mission to destroy my computer going, have you come up with a different plan to bless me with a few viruses?

[Archetype8]

But....you just shot that argument in the foot, yourself. Wherever it stemed from, and no matter what people's ideals are, their ideals and their actions are in complete conflict, which is why I was saying religion doesn't really hold much value in this discussion. No sh*t it's deemed a major sin, but my point is, as wrong as it's ideally considered, I don't see women speaking up against it. They take more the approach that it sounded like you were taking: Don't bring it up, just let it happen.

Mousy: If you read, I have a tad bit more than just my immediate family experience as evidence that this behavior is pretty common. There's them, my extended family (and you know how extended that gets with Armenians ), almost all of whom live in the So Cal area, and the countless number of people who I've chatted with who have had like issues in their families. I would never base an entire nationality off of just my personal familes issues. You should know me better by now than to presume I would make such an assumption, Mousy.

And your talk of how people have lost their spirituality is only aiding my point, not yours and Ryan's, because that's the whole point I'm trying to make: That being Christian has nothing to do with how moral you are. Weather there are rules to follow or not, weather it doesn't make sense that they don't follow those rules, yet still go to church, it is in fact what's happening to a significant portion of Christians. MANY OF THEM SIMPLY DO NOT GET THE CONCEPT!

Oh, and my personal stance on the existence of a higher being has nothing to do this,so let's not bring that into this discussion.

As for other races using this type of material as ammo for their slandering of out culture, I don't think Mexicans and blacks have any room to talk when it comes to beating their significant others and children.

Damn you guys type to fast

"No sh*t it's deemed a major sin, but my point is, as wrong as it's ideally considered, I don't see women speaking up against it. They take more the approach that it sounded like you were taking: Don't bring it up, just let it happen"

That is why it is called, reading carefully before you stubbornly jump to one side as what much of the Armenian community is fond of doing. Forget generalizing people's love affairs work and talk about that.

[Archetype8]

Welcome back "Nimrod", I hope you'll enjoy your short stay. How is your mission to destroy my computer going, have you come up with a different plan to bless me with a few viruses?

You are threatening/harassing me why? Ok at first you had somewhat of an argument about "insults" but now you are just picking a bone with me because I bruised your ego. Please step off the high cloud and keep your agenda of hobbies to yourself.

I was referring: "How is your mission to destroy my computer going, have you come up with a different plan to bless me with a few viruses?" You must be really familiar with that but I am not and I would appreciate it if you really refrain from such negativity towards me without merit.

My "mission" is already accomplished because your egocentric/arrogant ways have already been surfaced even to you and that really gives you another cheap excuse to negate your flaws and blame me for your own triviality and corruption.

I have nothing more to add or accomplish on this "mission" since it is already done. My "mission" again is already complete since you already think that (see previous post).

[Crimson Glow]

I was saying the foundations of their whole even IDEA of acting upon those teachings is religion derived.

WE SEE CHEATING AS WRONG BECAUSE WE WERE TAUGHT THAT AND IT IS THE GIVEN-ACCEPTED STANDARD.

Others like the Pagans of the Caribbean do not see it as "wrong" or much of anything it is as typical as lighting a candle in church. Therefore, all of these ideals stem from religion because it outlined a blue print for us all to follow and start somewhere. You seem to be contradicting your whole argument too rapidly to know it.

No, not contridicting myself at all. Just a matter of misscommunication. I understand what you're saying completely, but what GOOD is that if people do not feel obligated to be bound by those rules, yet still call themselves Christian? And aren't you being just as stubborn and one sided in this discussion? Why accuse me of this?

[Crimson Glow]

No, not contridicting myself at all. Just a matter of misscommunication. I understand what you're saying completely, but what GOOD is that if people do not feel obligated to be bound by those rules, yet still call themselves Christian? And aren't you being just as stubborn and one sided in this discussion? Why accuse me of this?

*Edit: I'll have to continue this later. I had a bunch of errands to do today which I've put off too long already. Damn this club!

[Archetype8]

No, not contridicting myself at all. Just a matter of misscommunication. I understand what you're saying completely, but what GOOD is that if people do not feel obligated to be bound by those rules, yet still call themselves Christian? And aren't you being just as stubborn and one sided in this discussion? Why accuse me of this?

Right. Well it does the same good as having people convert to Atheism then still follow secular rules only when it satisfies them or fits their well being and skin well.

Again, not all follow it. Not all break it either. You cannot just rely on a marginal few to base your whole argument upon. If my bringing out the facts means I am stubborn then I guess that word fits relevantly to all us. The fact that you mince together concepts just based upon one erroneous little presumptions says it all, hence why I said what I said.

[anileve]

You are threatening/harassing me why? Ok at first you had somewhat of an argument about "insults" but now you are just picking a bone with me because ...

Ryan, stay cautious of that rope you tied around your neck.

[Anonymouse]

No, not contridicting myself at all. Just a matter of misscommunication. I understand what you're saying completely, but what GOOD is that if people do not feel obligated to be bound by those rules, yet still call themselves Christian? And aren't you being just as stubborn and one sided in this discussion? Why accuse me of this?

This is a straw man, I've already addressed this. You are making entire value judgements on exceptions to the rule. When I asked for evidence you once again cited immediate and extended family. It sounds like negative views you reside with have been influenced by your bloodline, bub.

[hyebruin]

this is the zombie thread! it died and came back for more!!

to answer the original question:

duhhh!!! yes they do! and there are a certain segment of armenians who believe it is their manly right and it's "their business" and still claim to "love" their wife and family furthermore, they hold the belief that their wife is a *&^% for even looking at another guy! i've heard this right from the source! a married guy! ok?? so all who like to deny, just keep on denying...

[Anonymouse]

this is the zombie thread! it died and came back for more!!

to answer the original question:

duhhh!!! yes they do! and there are a certain segment of armenians who believe it is their manly right and it's "their business" and still claim to "love" their wife and family furthermore, they hold the belief that their wife is a *&^% for even looking at another guy! i've heard this right from the source! a married guy! ok?? so all who like to deny, just keep on denying...

I don't know what sort of peasant villager rabies types you've been associating with but that is not what any sane person holds as their view.