Is your intellectual thinking keeping you from being social?

[Anonymouse]

lol well you are funny - I'll give you that.

But I am in no way androgynous (even if I was a Mr Mom)...and you obviously lack understanding and perspective concerning what I may have said on another forum about my openess to fantasy play and such with my wife (where we each point out members of the opposite sex to each other that we know the other will apreciate - and that we might - at times - incorporate such into our fantasy play - I'm sorry that you lack imagination - and again - its also a confidence issue - I'm secure...you apparently lack...etc)

And sorry Mousy - but when you say you are superior to the ignorant - well thats a major mistatement - as you are one of those whom you feel above - in so very many ways....

Confidence is the fundamental of a man. You lack it. Otherwise you wouldn't feel threatened by me or what I say. Imagination and confidence are two different things. You do not know me, therefore to claim I do not have imagination would be ignorant on your part, which puts you in the category of those I am above. I do not consider it confidence, when one lacks the imagination within oneself so that one needs to compensate for it by fantasies of imagining other dudes.

If I were one of those whom I am above, I wouldn't get so many reactions from you. It's because I quake the foundations of your comfort and thought that you need to respond in order to feel that you can somehow contend. It is your lack of understanding the difference of the physical and spiritual plane, and the intellect obeys the the latter, not the former. It is because you lack that intellectual solitude which is why you do not feel the way I do, or crimson, or IamLegend. It is also the reason why you believe that your definitions apply to others. You do not feel that solitude because you feel comfortable in the sheepish herd. And I on the other hand feel comfort in solitude. You are essentially the plebian I have referred to in my initial post.

[Anonymouse]

But what's the point of being better?

The point is that you do not need to waste your time with the useless herd. You cut to the chase and associate only with those you choose to unless otherwise forced to associate with ignorance.

[winoman]

Crimosn - while I don't disagree with you here - I have to say - that from my experience in life - and of being open - willing and able and interested in talking with many different sorts - that I find people tend to put up many barriers and tend to try to differentiate and feel superior and such - one way or another - often for no real good reason. I think most everyone has something to offer - or at least that there are plenty more that do then one might think on the surface - and these people may not initially meet your expectations of someone who might have anything worthwhile going for them at all.

I also find this thinking that one really knows things more then others and is "better" then others to be a dangerous thing...and yes I've certainly compared Mouse to Hitler in the past - and for good reason (and yeah - he does idolize the guy...)...anyway - this us vversus them thing - we are better, I am better - etc etc - well - no.

And related to this is the problem of societal conditioning and limitations. For instance (many) folks in Europe just think that most all Ameicans are stupid idiots (and OK - sometimes I think it too)...but what I'm getting at is that we are here in the USA - with really limited exposure and perspective - yeah - we are missing out on a whole whole lot...so who are we to judge?

Yeah - IMO - its all about judging - being judgemental...ussually a bad thing....

[Anonymouse]

Crimosn - while I don't disagree with you here - I have to say - that from my experience in life - and of being open - willing and able and interested in talking with many different sorts - that I find people tend to put up many barriers and tend to try to differentiate and feel superior and such - one way or another - often for no real good reason. I think most everyone has something to offer - or at least that there are plenty more that do then one might think on the surface - and these people may not initially meet your expectations of someone who might have anything worthwhile going for them at all.

I also find this thinking that one really knows things more then others and is "better" then others to be a dangerous thing...and yes I've certainly compared Mouse to Hitler in the past - and for good reason (and yeah - he does idolize the guy...)...anyway - this us vversus them thing - we are better, I am better - etc etc - well - no.

And related to this is the problem of societal conditioning and limitations. For instance (many) folks in Europe just think that most all Ameicans are stupid idiots (and OK - sometimes I think it too)...but what I'm getting at is that we are here in the USA - with really limited exposure and perspective - yeah - we are missing out on a whole whole lot...so who are we to judge?

Yeah - IMO - its all about judging - being judgemental...ussually a bad thing....

I do not idolize Hitler. You are intentionally misrepresenting what I have said. I respect him for a philosophical and historical figure. As opposed to smearing him, which is the popular thing to do among the masses. I take a receptive stance to give him an objective place in history and my thoughts.

You have missed the point by inserting this "I am better, you are better" nonsense. It does not matter because no one can objectively know that. It is only based on the individuals perception of the surroundings and the people he associates with. If he feels he is better than them, and will not be understood, it is his or her individual right to not associate. I feel I am better than those such yourself, which is why I choose not to associate with you. Some label it "stuck up", "arrogant" or "better than others" attitude, I call it conviction. You call it weakness, I call it honesty.

As humans, as individual human actors in this world, we all judge. Everytime we express on opinion we are passing judgement. You cannot exist without judging. To opress someone based on that judgement would be a different thing. I do not associate with those ignorant and stupid (you being the exception), however, I do not go up to them and tell them that they are ignorant or stupid. I simply stay away. Apparently you haven't learned to make these simple distinctions.

[winoman]

Mouse - you are just so very pathetic. You really have very little going for you. You have very limited experience in life and have so little of value to offer anyone - but you have a gift of blab and think that makes you special. You are really so much less special then so many in this world - yet you are feeling "above" and "better" etc - just like Talat.

I am not threatened by you - not at all. I can't even think of one reason why I would be. (Do you own lots of guns or something? ....)...what I feel concerning you is disgust and perhaps a certain degree of irritation - yes the way you put down others and carry on - for no good reason but to satisfy your own enjoyment - you provide nothing of value - only negative - this disgusts and irritates me. That one so worthless as you gets off putting others down and thinks you are someone.

I am a proven, succesful man...not that this really matters...per se - but it says something at least...what is more important is that I have a family that I care for and that cares for me, friends that I can have beneficial and worthwhile good times with, and perhaps some satisfaction that I'm doing good for others and not just being a self centered self important, self agrandizing (little) fool - like you seem to only be....

[thedebutante]

Wino, stop fighting already and make love. This is after all the love and romance forum.

[winoman]

Mouse - that you find Hitler so respectful - and his philosophy as well...and that you care so much that this mass murdering petty little criminal who did so much harm to the world might be misunderstood or such - well that is telling - I really need to say no more.

And again - you feel you are better then me? Again - I said you were ignorant - and this is clear proof...

And that you fail to understand why being judgemental is a problem - strike 3 you are way out of here....

[winoman]

Wino, stop fighting already and make love. This is after all the love and romance forum.

OK kisses...

Your right - just wasting time. I really do try to ignore him - I do....sometimes I just can't help it and have to weigh in on his foolishness - what can I say...sorry...

[thedebutante]

OK kisses...

Your right - just wasting time. I really do try to ignore him - I do....sometimes I just can't help it and have to weigh in on his foolishness - what can I say...sorry...

Btw, I dont appreciate you raggin on my man. Got it?

[Anonymouse]

Mouse - you are just so very pathetic. You really have very little going for you. You have very limited experience in life and have so little of value to offer anyone - but you have a gift of blab and think that makes you special. You are really so much less special then so many in this world - yet you are feeling "above" and "better" etc - just like Talat.

I am not threatened by you - not at all. I can't even think of one reason why I would be. (Do you own lots of guns or something? ....)...what I feel concerning you is disgust and perhaps a certain degree of irritation - yes the way you put down others and carry on - for no good reason but to satisfy your own enjoyment - you provide nothing of value - only negative - this disgusts and irritates me. That one so worthless as you gets off putting others down and thinks you are someone.

I am a proven, succesful man...not that this really matters...per se - but it says something at least...what is more important is that I have a family that I care for and that cares for me, friends that I can have beneficial and worthwhile good times with, and perhaps some satisfaction that I'm doing good for others and not just being a self centered self important, self agrandizing (little) fool - like you seem to only be....

I am glad you finally let the honesty out of how you feel.