Armenians & Homosexuality

[karoaper]

ov kida?

I'm sorry I don't speak Japanese.

[axel]

me neither (to the best of my knowledge that is) that was just a joke. sorry.

[Anonymouse]

... and now I must ponder the link between evolution and homosexuality.

Genius point!

[karoaper]

me neither (to the best of my knowledge that is) that was just a joke. sorry.

it's all good man . I was kidding too, I got the meaning of course.

[axel]

it's all good man . I was kidding too, I got the meaning of course.

ok cool, after weeks of claustration, I may envisage attending Sourp Badarak again

Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

They utterly ignore the commanding lesson of the Bible which is to LOVE LOVE LOVE and instead the JUDGE, HATE, KILL in the name of the this love. Leave the judging (and killing) to God.

the christian message is rather "love the sinner, hate his sins" which is a middle ground between the two.

is homosexuality a sin? In some cases, it might be. In most cases, it is simply degenerate behaviour that should certainly not be normalized and advocated for as it is in the decadent west. as far as we are concerned, esp. given our demographics, such attitude would amount to collective suicide.

[Anonymouse]

ok cool, after weeks of claustration, I may envisage attending Sourp Badarak again

Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.



the christian message is rather "love the sinner, hate his sins" which is a middle ground between the two.

is homosexuality a sin? In some cases, it might be. In most cases, it is simply degenerate behaviour that should certainly not be normalized and advocated for as it is in the decadent west. as far as we are concerned, esp. given our demographics, such attitude would amount to collective suicide.

I think one of the things which modern society does and excels at is actually producing homosexuals. Whereas in the past, such as in Greece and Rome, homosexuality was simply just a sexual behavior engaged in at times, the lifestyle that was accepted and dominant was the man/woman lifestyle and marriage. And as Foucault (himself a homosexual) pointed out, in modern society, homosexuality is no longer a sexual behavior, it is a category, a classification, and what we have come to know as "an alternative lifestyle".

[Stark Evade]

In most cases, it is simply degenerate behaviour that should certainly not be normalized and advocated for as it is in the decadent west.

Advocated? How is it advocated? Acceptance and advocation are not the same thing.

[TomServo]

[Anonymouse]

[Stark Evade]

I think one of the things which modern society does and excels at is actually producing homosexuals.

Produce? No it doesn't. The behaviors of different societies may illuminate the reality of it differently but they do not produce anything. There is no factual basis for such a statement. It is a sentiment. Nobody says people should be homosexuals; they say it is acceptable to be. A homosexual is a person who prefers -- or would prefer, given an environment free of forceful stimuli -- partaking in homosexual acts. Other than sentiment, there is no reason to believe that homosexuals are being created over believing that the tolerance of society can illuminate to a degree greater than a less tolerant society, the homosexual population that was already there.

Whereas in the past, such as in Greece and Rome, homosexuality was simply just a sexual behavior engaged in at times, the lifestyle that was accepted and dominant was the man/woman lifestyle and marriage.

Your Greece/Rome comment doesn't illustrate how society creates homosexuals. Homosexuality being conditionally accepted would not change the fact that some of the people who were married and had a family would have perfered to live mostly, if not totally, homosexual had social norms not been ultimately forceful of heterosexuality. It's just as I described above. You are falling victim to shotty statistical analysis.

I think people are playing word games when they throw around words like "lifestyle." It's not an either-or thing and acts and lifestyles are not competing for validity. They are both part of a single general idea. Homosexuals, as I defined above, can commit individual homosexual acts and/or live a homosexual lifestyle, characterized by homosexual acts being the dominant form of their sexual expression.