Information on Armenian women wanted

[Crissy]

What do you mean???

I was merely talking about giving her a "bigger" bunch of <<flowers>> as a bribe.

What bribe were 'you' refering to, Mr. Romantic?

OK, enough about bribes and sizes, either someone's mind is in the gutter (including mine) or Armenian's innocent comment was misunderstood, but then again you made a comment that we had turned this thread into a virtual bedroom

[Crissy]

Now, I suggest you two hug and make up.

hmm.... this would be a sight for sore eyes. However, it could be a virtual hug and kiss

[sad_eyes]

Personally, I find Armenian women more dedicated to their children and family than Europeans or Americans.

First, thank you for your comments. Armenian or not, you guys are a part of my family


Secondly, I strongly agree with this. (Siamanto's comment) Armenian women are extreamly sensitive to their children and family needs. They work hard to please their husbands and children. They have a true, innocent and genuwine care for their families. Imagine a scenario where an american mother and an armenian mother are at a park watching their children play on swings. Coincidentally both children fall off their swings and fall to the ground. Who would be the first to run to their child? The armenian mother of course.The american mother would more than likely look at her child and leave him or her to get back up on thier own feet as the armenian mother would run to her childs side and comfort him or her regardless of if he or she was really hurt. I am not implying that americans have no love or understanding of their childs needs or comforts but from what I know of armenian women is that they understand what family really is. You dont here armenians swearing at there family members, calling their mothers xxxxxes or obsence things like that. They love each other, and are not afraid to hug and show family effection towards each other even in publc.

[cpa]

Thank You for the interest in my interest in Armenian women. She is in her early twenties and from Armenia. I am Catholic, although not practicing. Is their a great difference from the American women I date? My cousin dated and married a Polish girl who was a virgin until they were married. This is very uncommon in my experience with American women. How are the majority of Armenian women in their early twenties? I also didn't realize that this would be an interracial relationship. My ethnicty is Irish/French. Would this cause problems for me?

[Crissy]

First, thank you for your comments. Armenian or not, you guys are a part of my family


Secondly, I strongly agree with this. (Siamanto's comment) Armenian women are extreamly sensitive to their children and family needs. They work hard to please their husbands and children. They have a true, innocent and genuwine care for their families. Imagine a scenario where an american mother and an armenian mother are at a park watching their children play on swings. Coincidentally both children fall off their swings and fall to the ground. Who would be the first to run to their child? The armenian mother of course.The american mother would more than likely look at her child and leave him or her to get back up on thier own feet as the armenian mother would run to her childs side and comfort him or her regardless of if he or she was really hurt. I am not implying that americans have no love or understanding of their childs needs or comforts but from what I know of armenian women is that they understand what family really is. You dont here armenians swearing at there family members, calling their mothers xxxxxes or obsence things like that. They love each other, and are not afraid to hug and show family effection towards each other even in publc.

I agree with your post above, however in regards to the example you are talking about (children falling off the swing etc) I believe it's a maternal instinct to run to the child regardless of nationality/religion. This said, Armenian woman are family oriented and as mothers they are over protective with children. Where a non Armenian will have no problem to allow their children to have independence from an early age, for example moving out of home or dating, an Armenian parent will not allow this. Although this would only apply to some Armenian families, depending on how traditional their values are.

[Crissy]

by the way, glad you feel like a part of our family

[sad_eyes]

I agree with your post above, however in regards to the example you are talking about (children falling off the swing etc) I believe it's a maternal instinct to run to the child regardless of nationality/religion. This said, Armenian woman are family oriented and as mothers they are over protective with children. Where a non Armenian will have no problem to allow their children to have independence from an early age, for example moving out of home or dating, an Armenian parent will not allow this. Although this would only apply to some Armenian families, depending on how traditional their values are.

I am speaking from what I have seen for the past 5 years of my life.

[ArmenianKid]

Careful you'll get hit with flying sarcasm!!

[Siamanto]

It's not what I meant. I apologize for the ambiguity. I meant that my intention was not to solely discredit or mock; I meant that it was an honest - maybe wrong - opinion. Yes, the honest character is one of the elements that distinguishes gossip from non-gossip. If the intent is to discredit, mock, make fun or have fun at the expense of others it is gossip - unless both parties are willingly playing together or fooling around.

I think that even if it is impossible to always determine whether a statement is gossip or not, the following three factors - or dimensions - are enough to answer the question in many - if not most - situations:
A statement can be characterized by - at least:
1- The intent i.e. why the statement was made: inform, criticize, discredit, mock, have fun
2- The content i.e. informational quality and nature: anecdotal, verified, verifiable, direct observation, indirect information etc.
3- The context i.e. the sequence or circumstances where the statement was made: spontaneous, confrontation, playful exchanges etc.

Do we agree so far?

Though you articulate beautifully, you fail to excuse your stab at gossip.

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I see that you are a bit impatient. I did not "fail" to "excuse" my statement as gossip; in fact, I did not even make an attempt.
Also, my goal is not to "excuse" my statement as non-gossip. My goal is to first suggest a definition of gossip that we both agree on and later assess my statement. If my goal were to "excuse" myself, then it wouldn't be an honest effort.
Finally, calling it a "stab" may suggest that your decision is already made and you are not honest in your effort.

In the above, I have simply defined a conceptual model that would allow to understand most "conversational situations" or "language games" - "language game" as define by Wittgenstein - from a certain point of view.

Before we answer the question whether my statement about Anonymouse was gossip or not, I should first suggest a definition of "gossip" based on the conceptual model defined above. Before I proceed to suggesting a definition, we need to agree on the conceptual model.
That is exactly why I asked if we agreed so far. Do we agree so far?

Perhaps it would be more clear, if you could point out specifically, which one of your categories and sub matter your previous ‘non- gossip’ fell under?

The above are not "categories" or "sub matters" of gossip. I don't know what your question may mean?

My view on this matter is that there is no need for you to point out your perceived ‘negative’ behavior of anonymous’, unless, you are engaging in a conversation with anonymous, and feel the need to express your sincere perception of him, to him.

Your differences with him, do not concern anyone else, therefore there is no need for you to mention him, especialy in negative light, when speaking to others.

Your comments reflect a legitimate ethical concern; I respect and praise it. Of course, I'm not saying that I agree with your interpretation of the facts.
My only question is that why you failed to express the same concern each time Anonymouse - quite frequently - did the same? How come you did not seem to be so ethically concerned when karoaper provoked this situation?
Where was your sense fairness and honesty?

However, you are welcome to do as you please. I am merely pointing out that you are doing the same as you (recently) seem to often accuse others of doing.

Can we judge before agreeing the meaning of what is being judged? If your decision is already made, then we are wasting our time.

[Siamanto]

First, thank you for your comments. Armenian or not, you guys are a part of my family

You're welcome.