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  • Well said

    As for you being overprotective and setting rules, it's a good idea, that will teach them to stay in line.

    Nothing worse than a little brat of a kid who has to have it his/her way all the time.

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    • Originally posted by karoaper
      I think that might be more a result of Western stoicism The culture and interpersonal relationships are dryer and a bit colder. This is why paretns incourage their kids to leave their homes and cities and persue their lives on their own. As soon as the kids leave, the parents have a sort of rebirth. They change the kids' rooms into something else. The result is the kids loose their connection to their origins. It's no surprise then that so many adults send their parents off to rest homes, like so much trash. Another example of this stoicism is the culture of truth at all costs. When a person is dieing in States, his family will usually tell he is dieing. As contrast, my grandfather didn't know till maybe last 2 weeks that he had deadly cancer. I'm not sure which is better or worse but those are the differences.

      The other factor I think is overall selfishness (byproduct of individuality maybe) that is prevalent in the west. Spouses and parents and children are lot more self-absorbed and not willing to compomise. This is to a degree why marriages don't last very long in West. I've heard many times here in States how pregnant mothers would still drink and smoke. Even if it's in moderation, an Armenian mother would never even imagine to do something like that (at lest my mom's generation).
      Many reasons probably contribute to the behavioral differences between Armenians and Americans/Europeans in general; and, probably, "stoicism" and "selfishness" are among them. Rationalized attitudes and further industrialization/standardization - as suggested by Crissy's message - are also among them.
      However, I would like to add:
      1- The average Italian - or Portuguese - mother is much closer to the average Armenian mother then to the average English or American mother.
      2- Most Gypsies, Arabs, Central Asians, Kurds etc. are also very "careless" and their children are quite "independent." Is there a fine line between "independence" and "left for themselves?" Is there a fine line between "tolerance" and "indifference?"
      What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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      • Originally posted by Crissy
        I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't mean that they care for and love their child any less. So what if the kid fell off the swing, as long as they are not seriously hurt (in which case I doubt any mother would sit there and not do anything about it).
        Let's say that they express their affection in a more emotional - and maybe less rationalized - way.
        But, can it be that as a mother starts rationalizing such situations and her relation with her children, she starts distancing herself from them, in one way or another?






        Originally posted by Crissy
        As they say in Armenian "ke metsana ke morana" lol
        Of course, but LOL after hugging the kid enough times to suffocate him/her and kissing him/her a couple of thousand times until he/she gets really tired of it etc. etc.
        By the way, what "ke" means? I know "Yete [or Yerp] medznas g@ mornas."





        Originally posted by Crissy
        Perhaps 10 or 20 years ago there would have been more differences between an Armenian woman and a non Armenian. These days, there is allot of western influence, so it all comes back to how they have been brought up.
        You are correct. In any case, time will tell if the gap will eventually become small enough to be insignificant. All depends whether standardization and globalization will continue to uniformize and erode cultural diversity.
        We will soon establish the appropriate ISO standards.
        Last edited by Siamanto; 11-14-2005, 07:23 PM.
        What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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        • agree with your post above. please dont mention ISO again hehehe, Just finished conducting an audit on that.

          in regards to "ke", I guess it's same as saying "g@" ???

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          • Originally posted by Crissy
            agree with your post above. please dont mention ISO again hehehe, Just finished conducting an audit on that.

            in regards to "ke", I guess it's same as saying "g@" ???

            Audit on ISO? What's that?

            ke metsana ke morana. Sounds like a symptome of aging.
            ke metsana ke korana
            ke metsana ke khulana
            ke metsana ke khentana
            ke metsana ke btana
            any more?

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            • Write in Armenian letters. It looks terrible in Latin text.

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              • Originally posted by TomServo
                Write in Armenian letters. It looks terrible in Latin text.
                not only does it look terrible, it can be confusing.

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                • Originally posted by karoaper
                  Audit on ISO? What's that?

                  ke metsana ke morana. Sounds like a symptome of aging.
                  ke metsana ke korana
                  ke metsana ke khulana
                  ke metsana ke khentana
                  ke metsana ke btana
                  any more?
                  ISO is International Organization of Standardization. Now that our company is ISO certified, we had to carry out an internal audit on our QMS.

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                  • Originally posted by TomServo
                    Write in Armenian letters. It looks terrible in Latin text.
                    Yeah. But it's a lot better than this, don't you think.

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                    • Originally posted by Crissy
                      ISO is International Organization of Standardization. Now that our company is ISO certified, we had to carry out an internal audit on our QMS.
                      QMS?


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