Are You Currently In A Relationship?

[Sip]

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I certainly don't "need" a woman. If that makes me not a man, so be it

[One-Way]

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Date's over.

[Anahita]

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Yeh, everything involves buying some manufactured thing.

Just about the only thing that's free and spontaneous now are kisses. And, I'm sure that as we speak, some company is working on a way to make money from them

Commodification bothers me on many levels. It seems to me that mentality is partly responsible for the harm being done to the planet, problems with relationships, and much more. When people view
‘value’ of the priceless in economic terms (rather than intrinsic value) whatever they view gets cheapened. Nature becomes something to make money from. Relationships become ‘what can this person do for me.’ I find that sad (to put mildly)

I certainly don't "need" a woman. If that makes me not a man, so be it

I didn’t say that correctly in my other post (and was saying two things at once). On a basic level, all men need women (or there would be no men.) In that sense, all men need women and all women need men.

On the other level (if a particular individual ‘needs’ a partner), that depends on the person and what they have as higher (than physiological) needs. Do I need to play the piano? No. I enjoy playing the piano and would rather that I have opportunities to do that and would miss not playing, but I don’t really need to play. Did Chopin need to play the piano? I think so. One person might really need a girlfriend while another might just feel about a girlfriend like I feel about playing piano.

I'm thinking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs: “His theory contends that as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy.”

1. Physiological needs (e.g., food, water, air) take precedence over all other needs.
2. Safety/security needs come next (e.g., health, physical safety, etc)
3. Love/social needs (e.g., friendships/sexual intimacy, family, etc.)
4. Esteem needs (e.g., respect, recognition, etc)
5. Self actualization needs (make most of abilities)
6. Transcendence needs (deeper meaning, spiritual, etc)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

Maslow’s theory says the needs of one level need to be met before the needs of a higher level can be met. I’d agree that 1 (and some of 2) must be met first (or simultaneously). I disagree that the rest of needs in the hierarchy require satisfaction of those beneath, first.

[Anahita]

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Dating scares me.

I've never really 'dated...' (thought I've had long relationships.... still I know nothin about 'dating.')

I'd like to throw out 'dating' in general. "Let's hang out and see if we are friends." First. Would that scare off guys? If so, I'd think that's not bad for me?

[karoaper]

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[TomServo]

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Hahaha.

[Anonymouse]

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Commodification bothers me on many levels. It seems to me that mentality is partly responsible for the harm being done to the planet, problems with relationships, and much more. When people view
‘value’ of the priceless in economic terms (rather than intrinsic value) whatever they view gets cheapened. Nature becomes something to make money from. Relationships become ‘what can this person do for me.’ I find that sad (to put mildly)

There is nothing wrong with 'commodification' or 'consumerism'.

If people don't like it, they don't have to play the game or buy anything. If someone sees value in it, who are you to say it has no value? Values are subjective, per the subjective theory of value in economics. As such, what is "intrinsic" to you may not be so for someone else. You cannot quantify values. You call that putting it mildly?

On the other level (if a particular individual ‘needs’ a partner), that depends on the person and what they have as higher (than physiological) needs. Do I need to play the piano? No. I enjoy playing the piano and would rather that I have opportunities to do that and would miss not playing, but I don’t really need to play. Did Chopin need to play the piano? I think so. One person might really need a girlfriend while another might just feel about a girlfriend like I feel about playing piano.

So why do you feel the need to take into account individual values and needs here and not above? Double standard.

I'm thinking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs: “His theory contends that as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy.”

1. Physiological needs (e.g., food, water, air) take precedence over all other needs.
2. Safety/security needs come next (e.g., health, physical safety, etc)
3. Love/social needs (e.g., friendships/sexual intimacy, family, etc.)
4. Esteem needs (e.g., respect, recognition, etc)
5. Self actualization needs (make most of abilities)
6. Transcendence needs (deeper meaning, spiritual, etc)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow's_hierarchy_of_needs

Maslow’s theory says the needs of one level need to be met before the needs of a higher level can be met. I’d agree that 1 (and some of 2) must be met first (or simultaneously). I disagree that the rest of needs in the hierarchy require satisfaction of those beneath, first.

Maslow, to put it bluntly, was an idiot. You would do well to steer clear.

[bell-the-cat]

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I'd like to throw out 'dating' in general. "Let's hang out and see if we are friends." First. Would that scare off guys? If so, I'd think that's not bad for me?

I think you have to be friends first, don't you?

So maybe it should be "Let's hang out like lovers and see if we are still friends by the end of a week".

[bell-the-cat]

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There is nothing wrong with 'commodification' or 'consumerism'.

If people don't like it, they don't have to play the game or buy anything.

But almost everything has to be bought. Just about the only thing you can do for free is sleep (which is probably why I do so much of it).

[Crissy]

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He's offered to do that too, many times...

Hey Crissy, where are you going to be when you come to the (US) states?

Pretty much everywhere LOL almost anyway.

Will be in NYC, Washington, Boston, LA, San Francisco, San Diego (maybe few more places in Cali) Vegas, Mexico

First stop is Canada.

you are in LA right?