Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I don't blame you what your ancestors did. But as a racism hater you should think twice.... Read the music forum, general armenian talk forum, history forum, jokes.... all of them about Turks. And you wonder why I am here. I am here to spend my free time. I don't flame by saying armenian genocide did not occur. And I don't really care what some loosers says like "armenians are white and european". you live in anglo-saxon countries. your words are just funny for me.

Selpak: Being turkish and in an armenian forum, you should expect racism from armenians. you may not believe in the genocide but many armenians do, including me, and that causes a lot of friction between us. i understand that you are offended by most of the things that some armenians say about your people but, as i said before, it is expected. maybe, instead of venemously attacking armenians without warning, you could try reasoning with us. state your opinion here but know that it's no use just attacking other people like that.

Also, what have my ancestors done to yours? Last i remembered, it was your peoples ancestors that butchered mine and forced my family to spread around the world.

Also, anglo-saxon (Old English) countries include: USA, Britain, Canada, and Australia only. all other countries are different (a.k.a. not anglo-saxon)

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

@Selpak: How could you even imply that our ancestors did anything to your ancestors when your "race" just started getting out of Central Asia (where it belongs) and barged into Armenia and started taking over like the barbarians they are! Then, if that wasn't bad enough, they just started making the Armenians' life worse and worse until they finally started to committ mass killings! Selpak, I suggest you either get some common sense and start thinking logically, or get out of here and never come back!

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

First of all I would like to say Hi to you all ^^... I am not Armenian but I have interest in learning more about the feelings of Asmenian youth about the world... Am a turkish Cypriot, currently doing my final year Genetics study in the UK. Both my parents ancestory came to Cyprus 500 years ago during ottoman empire not when Turkish troops came to the island 30 years ago... I found the forum completely randomly... anyways... here are my thoughts...
I think racism reduces ones ability to judge individuals objectively... What really matters is what that person does ... Race cannot determine whether one does right or wrong but it is ones personality that determines. One shouldnt be responsible what his/her ancestory have done to other peoples'.
It is true that Turkish came out of asia and to the Anatolian lands... This didnt happen yesterday though... I wonder if anyone is aware how Oguz Turks people lived back in Asia? They never owned the land, they lived like nomads. Unlike the rest of the cultures at that time they didnt built their cities... The times when Turkish explored Anatolia was when the world was ruled by kingdooms, undemocracy was the keyword at that time and there was no modern life nothing... It is true that they used violence to rule over but those times nobody paid mercy if they had the power... It is thought in Turkish history that turks were always fair to those people they ruled over but history books tries to proove fairytales which I would never believe. Many of you probably know that Oguz Turks accepted Islam religion on their way to Anatolia from the Arabs... Anyway...my point is that since oguz turks had no land of their own and when asia was dominated by growing chinese populations it was attractive for oguz turks to explore Anatolia... The means they used to dominate was violent but you cannot blame any turk today for this.However I dont agree with Turkish people who are still violent towards Armenians, Kurds etc... I think both Turks and Armenians should stop fighting with eachother which wont bring a solution. The past mistakes shouldnt be repeated and the only way to do this is to stop the animosity and start diplomacy and accept past mistakes.

p.s: just to give an example of Asian turks today...Even now I know some Kazakh turks who their grandparents live in chinese land but then there was no such thing as borders so it is not supprizing. My boyfriends is Kazakh and his family had to leave their land in China 3 generations ago to save their lives. They have gone through many suffering as a minority group which I dont approve but I shouldnt hate my chinese friend for this should I?

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

First of all I would like to say Hi to you all ^^... I am not Armenian but I have interest in learning more about the feelings of Asmenian youth about the world... Am a turkish Cypriot, currently doing my final year Genetics study in the UK. Both my parents ancestory came to Cyprus 500 years ago during ottoman empire not when Turkish troops came to the island 30 years ago... I found the forum completely randomly... anyways... here are my thoughts...
I think racism reduces ones ability to judge individuals objectively... What really matters is what that person does ... Race cannot determine whether one does right or wrong but it is ones personality that determines. One shouldnt be responsible what his/her ancestory have done to other peoples'.
It is true that Turkish came out of asia and to the Anatolian lands... This didnt happen yesterday though... I wonder if anyone is aware how Oguz Turks people lived back in Asia? They never owned the land, they lived like nomads. Unlike the rest of the cultures at that time they didnt built their cities... The times when Turkish explored Anatolia was when the world was ruled by kingdooms, undemocracy was the keyword at that time and there was no modern life nothing... It is true that they used violence to rule over but those times nobody paid mercy if they had the power... It is thought in Turkish history that turks were always fair to those people they ruled over but history books tries to proove fairytales which I would never believe. Many of you probably know that Oguz Turks accepted Islam religion on their way to Anatolia from the Arabs... Anyway...my point is that since oguz turks had no land of their own and when asia was dominated by growing chinese populations it was attractive for oguz turks to explore Anatolia... The means they used to dominate was violent but you cannot blame any turk today for this.However I dont agree with Turkish people who are still violent towards Armenians, Kurds etc... I think both Turks and Armenians should stop fighting with eachother which wont bring a solution. The past mistakes shouldnt be repeated and the only way to do this is to stop the animosity and start diplomacy and accept past mistakes.

p.s: just to give an example of Asian turks today...Even now I know some Kazakh turks who their grandparents live in chinese land but then there was no such thing as borders so it is not supprizing. My boyfriends is Kazakh and his family had to leave their land in China 3 generations ago to save their lives. They have gone through many suffering as a minority group which I dont approve but I shouldnt hate my chinese friend for this should I?

Congratulations on being Turkish and getting a collegiate education.

Is Borat your boyfriend?

What was the point of your post?

I think you don't mean harm, but....

You say one should think objectively and not judge on biases, yet when history books told you what monsters your ancestors were, you chose not believe it.....

The Turks "explored" in the same way that the Vikings did.....

Sorrry for the animosity, but it is well deserved.

And, I love hearing that word "fairytale" from every Turkish poster... start using a thesaurus.

Cheers

[gizzy]

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I dont understand why u are choosing to attack me with your words...am really hurt... you do not even know my true heritage and yet you are throwing insults... I do undestand that if you lost your relatives you might be hurt and all but throwing insults is not the solution as I havnt done any harm to you... I didnt say I believe history books infact I said I dont coz all of them contain one sided stories only...
I assume you do not know any Cyprus history since you judge me as a turk from turkey... I have a bit of Albanian, Greek, Latin and Ottoman heritage...Basicly I dont have a single ancestory. Back in ottoman times a population of people from all over the empire were moved to Cyprus. Before ottomans the island was ruled by Venetians ( people from venice)...many civilizations ruled over cyprus; the Byzantines, Persians , Egypts... all of them fought over the land ...
I call myself turkish cypriot coz I speak turkish and albanian cypriot will sound rather funny.
Anyhow... the point of my post was to maybe start a good quality discussion with an Armanian about their history prefably without insults ^^... I know too little about Armanian people so I thought maybe this forum will help me learn more...

p.s: If you are really really wondering...yess.. borat was used to be my bf but I left him when I learned he had a relationship with pamela enderson... heh

[Gunner14]

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I dont understand why u are choosing to attack me with your words...am really hurt... you do not even know my true heritage and yet you are throwing insults... I do undestand that if you lost your relatives you might be hurt and all but throwing insults is not the solution as I havnt done any harm to you... I didnt say I believe history books infact I said I dont coz all of them contain one sided stories only...
I assume you do not know any Cyprus history since you judge me as a turk from turkey... I have a bit of Albanian, Greek, Latin and Ottoman heritage...Basicly I dont have a single ancestory. Back in ottoman times a population of people from all over the empire were moved to Cyprus. Before ottomans the island was ruled by Venetians ( people from venice)...many civilizations ruled over cyprus; the Byzantines, Persians , Egypts... all of them fought over the land ...
I call myself turkish cypriot coz I speak turkish and albanian cypriot will sound rather funny.
Anyhow... the point of my post was to maybe start a good quality discussion with an Armanian about their history prefably without insults ^^... I know too little about Armanian people so I thought maybe this forum will help me learn more...

p.s: If you are really really wondering...yess.. borat was used to be my bf but I left him when I learned he had a relationship with pamela enderson... heh

Awww... now I feel bad.

Sowwy.

And I'm glad you have sense a humor, it's important in life...

[gizzy]

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you feel bad coz you insulted me mistakenly assuming am from turkey? or you feel sorry coz you realized you insulted me even though u said u knew I had no bad intentions? I cant decide which one sounds worse...ahhh ....

I also do not have a good image in my mind about turkish government but yet I wouldnt go and insult individuals. However I assume you guys have been previously agitated by some turkish people which explains your ON FIRE WELLCOMING ^^ ... oh and I accept the apology but yet I dont understand the real reasons behind such big amounts of animosity...

[Lucin]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

The past mistakes shouldnt be repeated and the only way to do this is to stop the animosity and start diplomacy and accept past mistakes.

They have gone through many suffering as a minority group which I dont approve but I shouldnt hate my chinese friend for this should I?

Nice try!
Ah, now I see, how every Turk repeats the exact same bullshyt with a slight change of vocabulary...

[Lucin]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Awww... now I feel bad.

Sowwy.

Feel bad?
I think your sarcastic response was way more sensible...

[gizzy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

yeah lucin you are right (!)... you have to hate me coz I have turkish blood (!)... Is that what you really believe?... if yes then I truely feel sorry for you...and I mean it from heart, its no fake... thats all I can say... :X