Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Come on lets be honest. You are "unfortunately" obsessed with Turks (or turks, jerks, etc.) Your full effort to label Turks as barbarian (brutal murderers, savages, mongolians, asiatic disasters, etc.) may affect the international image of Turkey a little. But on the other hand these efforts also show your Armenian (European, White, Western, Aryan, Civilised, etc.) nation very miserable. You seem miserable at the international arena with all your efforts such as crying (Oh, western civilisation, please help us, we are similiar to you, but Turks killed, raped, etc. us, how poor we are...)
So what? At the end, all your lies makes no result. Anatolia still belong to us and we are still majority at these lands (since 1000 years) You are still miserable at your obsesed diaspora communities, Armenia still suffer from hunger. So? Actually I dont understand your aim. Do you believe that you can destroy Turkey with these efforts? You know the answer, no! So? You can keep your hatred obsession in yourt hurts, but, dont you also think that you need to make something new?

Ah.. I see I have come across a Turk who at least is honst about his true feelings and morals.... congradulations.

Now...

1. I am not obssessed with Turks.... see my numerous other posts regarding, movies, music, sports, dating, friendship, etc.... there are many on here...

2. Within the political arena -> The Turks are neighbors of Armenia... they really are check the map http://media.maps.com/magellan/Images/ARMENI-W1.gif see?

Therefor.... I can't not talk about Turkey when we share a border..... in the foreign relations discussion of Armenia, Turkey will always be discussed.


3. Turks being Barbarians.... hmmm very intersting (regarding my own opinion on Turks) I will admit I had a very awful depiction of Turks when I was younger..... I thought they were premitave, and simple minded bruts. But now I know that they are just poeple (with islamic ways, but no one's perfect). So my opinion of modern Turks is this....

They are people just like me and you, and their government has convayed a certain ideal (regarding the Genocide, and "Turkmenistan") in their heads and that is fine (a bit faciest, but no one is perfect).... they probably think they won WW1 I joke.

Regarding the Turks of the past.... I think for the most part they were animals..... No doubt in my mind there were some inteligent and civil Turks, who weren't the fanatic equivilants of modern terrorists, but they were very few, and they would no doubt have been ostricized by the majority of Ottomans........

However - i think the ottomans on the whole were awful awful people this is a conclusion I have come to with, and I base it on the stories I heard from Genocide survivors Including my great grandmother....

I know I know --- Armenian propagenda right? well, I don't think my Nana had any incentive to make up what she told me, so no I don't think her stories were propaganda.... If you care to know what those stories were I would gladly share them with you.... but of course you dont.

Sorry for never "moving on" about Ottomans raping and killing little Armenian children without any good reason (gavour, is not a good reason) .... I'm working on it..... maybe if someone you loved was raped without any reason, and you had trouble moving on and were seeking that fvking clousure that I have been seeking for for the past 4 years.....maybe then you would understand...... but you won't understand, because you didn't give heed to anything I have said.... you're already thinking about what your going to write to me saying how bad you feel for me.... don't feel bad for me... I'm fine...... Ask yourself this....

Is it possible that the Ottoman Government had a plan to get rid of all the Armenians from Turkey? Is it possible?

Anyway... back to work, before I get fired..... btw, one of my managers is a Turkish woman from Germany...... it was really wiered for my the first couple of weeks, but now we're cool.... she's really nice too, In one of my "feedbacks" she said I was a "hard worker"

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Listen exfo (which is a stupid name by the way), who said Armenians wanted to "destroy" Turkey? We just want our genocide to be recognized and politically dealt with. Whether Turks are barbarians or not, they commited Genocide on the Armenians, and there is sooo much proof that shows this. I suggest you back off unless you want me to show you that there was a Genocide. And no one is going to believe you and your retarded claims of a "Turkish Genocide" or whatever. The Armenian Genocide is gaining more support, is already recognized in many places, and eventually, it will be recognized by the world! And whether Ataturk and the other retarded Young Turks will be known as barbarians or not when the genocide is recognized (if they already aren't), is not my decision (Ataturk, your "great" leader, is already discovered to be homosexual). :P

[exfo]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Sorry for never "moving on" about Ottomans raping and killing little Armenian children without any good reason (gavour, is not a good reason) .... I'm working on it..... maybe if someone you loved was raped without any reason, and you had trouble moving on and were seeking that fvking clousure that I have been seeking for for the past 4 years.....maybe then you would understand...... but you won't understand, because you didn't give heed to anything I have said.... you're already thinking about what your going to write to me saying how bad you feel for me.... don't feel bad for me... I'm fine...... Ask yourself this....

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

[sarathy]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

You can data whoever you want. Why should his nationality bother you?

[armo_origin]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother.

You didn't witness the Holocaust either, but I'm assuming you accept it happened?

[Gunner14]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

Ahh.... now we're getting somewhere, good.

Justice

Is there a word for justice in Turkish?

I think the thought of exterminating ALL Armenians from Turkey, who had done nothing to desreve what they got, NOTHING....makes people upset. That the government, can just decide to kill ALL of a certaing group of people, who for many years had been soooooo good to it... how could they.... I don't understand how they could hate Armenians so much back then, but then it comes to me......... its so simple, ENVY

Now I'm just talking about everyday Turks who were'nt political, but just hated Armenians..... and its this... how could these infidels have so much... litterate, bankers, buesnessmen, politicians, .... turks couldn't get over the fact that ARmenians who were nothing to them were getting on so well, this caused the initial animosity towards Armenians I mean Armenians (christians) couldnt even take a muslim to court - so a turk could come to your house .... steal ur possesions, and you would get no justice in a muslim court that's how low they were on the "food chain" <- and this feeling still exists in Turkmenistan and that is why they will never recognize the genocide......

they will first come to the conclusion once they realize that Tallat and his bunch were trying to exterminate ALL armenians... "yea, so what? Armenians deserved it" before they will admit any sort of guilt..... because they think very very low of armenians and it is manifested from Jelousy. <- these last two sentences, are what me most turks "barbarians." This is just my theory.

Why did they hate us so much? We were just living among them..... don't even start with the "revolutionary" bull crap, because their were just as many Turkish "revolutionary" groups who didn't like the Ottoman government, but that never gets mentioned the two often worked together.....

*sigh... I can go on forever.... this is just my opinion and interpurtation of things I have read.....and heard....


You say, everyone suffered in history...... but when you hear the stories from the genocide, you can't help but ask "How could they?" I mean ordinary Turks.....not soliders, just regular turks..... looting their armenian neighbors and often time commiting the most discussting acts..... War you say?

what does nailing a horseshoe to the bottom of a little kid have to do with war? hmmm how do you justify this? now i have put myself in the shoes of those monsters and I came to the conlusion that they absalutely despised Armenians.... we were lower than dogs to them..... and the "war" brought out the true feelings turks had and still have toward armenians......

So the who moving on business.... of course we have moved on.... we (armenians) have contributed to society greatly, but the armenian community wants some sort of closure and recognition......... how this will happen, I don't know.... I know for a fact Turkis government will never recognize the genocide ever, especially as more time passes...........

You think ALL armenians care about the genocide? no way... most people are like you they don't care about what happend in the past and they care about the future... that's fine, good for them and you....

cliches are good however....

If we don't learn from the mistakes we made in the past, we are bound to repeat them.........

anyway, that is way more than i planned on writting....

But thank you, I like you because you actually have a small dose of curiousity... sometimes I wonder if your actually an Armenian playing "devil's advocate"

anyway, cheers....

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

Is the Germans' annihilation of the xxxs just history? Idiot, it is history, but it's a genocide in history. And when you say many people died from your family, were they purposely trying to be killed because of an attempt to kill all Turks!? I don't think so, but the Armenians were trying to be killed, not because of war, but because the Turks wanted to exterminate the Armenians for "complete Turkishness" and a clean, Turkish Empire. (how grusome) xP

[sev_zeytun]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

I really do not understand, I can not make emphaty, really. Why do you tell these things as if they happened yesterday? Why do you (Armenians generally) think that you are so special? Every nation suffered at history. Nearly 20 million Russian is dead at WW2. Why they don't make obsession like you? You just heared some horrible things from your families. You did not see these things. But you tell as if you saw them personally. Interestingly your father and mother did not see them, too. They also heared from their father and mother. Even that elder ones did not see them. They heared from their father and mother. We are talking about 92 years ago! This is history, not something you need to take that much personal. My ancestors also migrated from Caucasia after Russian invade anatolia. They also suffered, many people died from the family. Almost every Turk has also these stories. But we do not make hysteria like your people. Again; please understand: this is history! You dont need to grow your children with boosing Turkish hatred. Hello!!! Somebody there???

First of all, 92 years is not a long time history wise. Second, the Russians went to WAR. The Armenians did not participate in war as a nation but, somehow, 1.5 million people die. Why? In history books many atrocities are recognized and recorded so there is acceptance and closure. So if the Armenian Genocide is "just history" then why don't the Turks just accept it and move on?!? Give me a good, straight, and honest answer. All we want is closure, at least in my case anyway.

[Էլիա]

Re: Is it wrong to date Turkish Cypriot people?

Yes, exfo, if you really think that the genocide of Armenians is true (as you stated, whether it was an accident or not), then why do you guys keep denying it and coming up with endless excuses that all have different views than each other (which shows how much you are lying). Well, we're waiting?

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[sev_zeytun]

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