Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

[MrLeftyHye]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

All the examples brought forward by members who are in interracial relationships are negative. There is a good and a bad in every nationality. I do agree that allot of Armenians get married for the wrong reasons, be it the convenience that they are both Armenian or get married young these days just to get freedom

If some Armenians are narrow minded and they don't accept otars when it comes to marriage, they are only concerned about becoming the next Assyrians. No one here is telling you guys marry an Armenian who is treating you bad, disrespecting you etc etc. (mind you these are only excuses, this is exactly what I used to say and just about every Armenian I know who's with an otar) Keep in mind us Armenians are humans too, we make the same mistakes as a Frenchman or an Englishman. You wouldn't date someone that treats you bad regardless of his or her nationality.

If you guys have found happiness with your partner congratulations and I wish you a happy future. Why do you feel like you have to defend it? Regardless of what some Armenians may say, if you are truly happy then you shouldn't give a damn about what other people say.

When one choses their life partner, they make that decision based on their wants, needs and lifestyle. No one has the right here to say you are right or wrong. However, the question was raised and we have the right to give our opinions and discuss, after all this is a discussion forum yea?

For me personally I couldn't be with an Otar, simply because I have dated one and there were way too many complications (and not just with family) that aside, It wasn't what I wanted.

Bottom line is, it's hard enough as it is to raise our children as Armenians in otar countries with both parents being Armenian. It's just that little bit harder when parents are of different nationality. It is doable, but it's hard, specially if the other partners culture is just as rich as ours.

I agree with you... we are not living in old ages where you have to marry the same race & Yes Armenians are human 2 we make mistakes...but what was said earlier on by people on this issue is like:"You have to marry an Armenian." You dont have to do anything... For example, I can marry a Korean if I want as long as Im happy...Right?

[gmd]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

All the examples brought forward by members who are in interracial relationships are negative. There is a good and a bad in every nationality. I do agree that allot of Armenians get married for the wrong reasons, be it the convenience that they are both Armenian or get married young these days just to get freedom

If some Armenians are narrow minded and they don't accept otars when it comes to marriage, they are only concerned about becoming the next Assyrians. No one here is telling you guys marry an Armenian who is treating you bad, disrespecting you etc etc. (mind you these are only excuses, this is exactly what I used to say and just about every Armenian I know who's with an otar) Keep in mind us Armenians are humans too, we make the same mistakes as a Frenchman or an Englishman. You wouldn't date someone that treats you bad regardless of his or her nationality.

If you guys have found happiness with your partner congratulations and I wish you a happy future. Why do you feel like you have to defend it? Regardless of what some Armenians may say, if you are truly happy then you shouldn't give a damn about what other people say.

When one choses their life partner, they make that decision based on their wants, needs and lifestyle. No one has the right here to say you are right or wrong. However, the question was raised and we have the right to give our opinions and discuss, after all this is a discussion forum yea?

For me personally I couldn't be with an Otar, simply because I have dated one and there were way too many complications (and not just with family) that aside, It wasn't what I wanted.

Bottom line is, it's hard enough as it is to raise our children as Armenians in otar countries with both parents being Armenian. It's just that little bit harder when parents are of different nationality. It is doable, but it's hard, specially if the other partners culture is just as rich as ours.

You make excellent points. On your last paragraph I would like to add that for a mixed couple, support and acceptance from the Armenian community makes it easier to raise the children with pride in their Armenian heritage. In situations where Armenians treat the odar spouse and the mixed children as outsiders then they act like outsiders. This is the point I am trying to raise and defend. I am happy in my 11 year marriage and am truly with the person who is right for me. This has nothing to do with nationality. However, I still have pride in my culture and want my family to be a part of it and be a part of the continuation of our people.

[MrLeftyHye]

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You make excellent points. On your last paragraph I would like to add that for a mixed couple, support and acceptance from the Armenian community makes it easier to raise the children with pride in their Armenian heritage. In situations where Armenians treat the odar spouse and the mixed children as outsiders then they act like outsiders. This is the point I am trying to raise and defend. I am happy in my 11 year marriage and am truly with the person who is right for me. This has nothing to do with nationality. However, I still have pride in my culture and want my family to be a part of it and be a part of the continuation of our people.

Gmd you are a 100% RiGht.

[Crissy]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

You make excellent points. On your last paragraph I would like to add that for a mixed couple, support and acceptance from the Armenian community makes it easier to raise the children with pride in their Armenian heritage. In situations where Armenians treat the odar spouse and the mixed children as outsiders then they act like outsiders. This is the point I am trying to raise and defend. I am happy in my 11 year marriage and am truly with the person who is right for me. This has nothing to do with nationality. However, I still have pride in my culture and want my family to be a part of it and be a part of the continuation of our people.

Not all Armenians turn their back on childrens from mix relationships nor do they make them feel outsiders. Some ARmenians I know they make Armenians feel like outsiders without being in mix marriage or what not. So that shouldn't be an issue. You raise your children as Armenians, don't need the approval of other ppl. You can teach them what you know. I am not sure about the Armenians where you are from, but here in Sydney, specially in the last few years allot of Armenians who have an otar mother or father are coming back into the Armenian community, my friends who are half Irish and half Armenian started going to school learning Armenian at the age of 25 and they are more Armenian that some Armenians I know. So if there is enough will you can do it. A friend of mine brought up a good point when we were having this discussion. He said, why do most Armenians reject the otar partner? why can't they look at it as "we have just gained another Armenian" in a sence that there is one more person who is willing to learn our culture and be a part of it. Disowning someone from a community or worse from a family, is just pushing away Armenians. I totally understand all this, But still would like to see Armenians with Armenians, and again it's a personal choice. What works for you I guess.

[Crissy]

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I agree with you... we are not living in old ages where you have to marry the same race & Yes Armenians are human 2 we make mistakes...but what was said earlier on by people on this issue is like:"You have to marry an Armenian." You dont have to do anything... For example, I can marry a Korean if I want as long as Im happy...Right?

in the old ages people not only had to marry their own race but also get married to those in the same class/status as them. I mean in India it's still happening isn't it? Where someone from a poor family or middle class family can't marry into rich etc.

If your partner makes you happy and your future will make you happy then go for it. For me, I know in the long run it won't make me happy being with an otar. It doesn't work for me. When I was with my otar bf, our family gatherings were a mess, he'd feel awkward coz he couldn't understand Armenian, I'd feel bad because he couldnt understand. everyone else would feel bad coz some of them (older people) couldn't speak English. I then started either not going to the family things, or not taking him and eventually you start pulling yourself away from family etc.
I know it's something simple but it is a big deal for me, as being surrounded with family and relatives is important for me.

[MrLeftyHye]

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Everyone is diffrent & have diffrent opinions & so on.

[gmd]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

Not all Armenians turn their back on childrens from mix relationships nor do they make them feel outsiders. Some ARmenians I know they make Armenians feel like outsiders without being in mix marriage or what not. So that shouldn't be an issue. You raise your children as Armenians, don't need the approval of other ppl. You can teach them what you know. I am not sure about the Armenians where you are from, but here in Sydney, specially in the last few years allot of Armenians who have an otar mother or father are coming back into the Armenian community, my friends who are half Irish and half Armenian started going to school learning Armenian at the age of 25 and they are more Armenian that some Armenians I know. So if there is enough will you can do it. A friend of mine brought up a good point when we were having this discussion. He said, why do most Armenians reject the otar partner? why can't they look at it as "we have just gained another Armenian" in a sence that there is one more person who is willing to learn our culture and be a part of it. Disowning someone from a community or worse from a family, is just pushing away Armenians. I totally understand all this, But still would like to see Armenians with Armenians, and again it's a personal choice. What works for you I guess.

Thank you. I am glad to hear that news of acceptance. The point your friend makes is one I have wondered about for a long time. Some of the Armenians I know in mixed marriages, especially with Russians and Europeans, have been able to include their spouse in our culture. I will keep plugging away. Change comes slowely but we need to increase our numbers any way we can.

[MrLeftyHye]

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How about let people marry whichever race they want to marry.

[armo_origin]

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Crissy I 've been noticing that too in Sydney. The Saturday Armenian school i used to go to is now full of mixed kids.

[MrLeftyHye]

Re: Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

Crissy I 've been noticing that too in Sydney. The Saturday Armenian school i used to go to is now full of mixed kids.

That is a good thing, isnt it?