Like to know what nationalities Armenians are dating these days...

[MrLeftyHye]

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Haha. See - the people who are pro-inter-ethnic marriages choose to block out the negative consequences. I've explained it like 5 times, if you don't get it by now, I dunno, theres no hope. Its kind of like common sense but ok.

You make it seem liek you know it all. You marry an Armenian lad & be happy. No ones telling you who to marry so why are you telling people if you marry an "otar" they will be miserable.

[ckBejug]

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Dating an Armenian.

Whenever my bf and I find out about anyone who is dating and/or married to a non-Armenan we always say "well, we lost another one". Don't tell me it's not true, because I've seen it with my own eyes. Unless you have a really strong sense of being Armenian with a strong Armo family and you're with someone who is willing to learn Armenian and immerse themselves in the culture, you're pretty much lost to us.

[ckBejug]

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Ace, I don't think it is as much of a "blocking out" of negative consequences, as it is either "accepting the negative consequences" or having different views of what are "negative consequences".

To some, the costs associated with trying to maintain "Armenianness" is simply too much compared to the benefits. They are not necessarily dumb nor do they necessarily not see the negatives ... it's just that they have a different view of what's important in life. Also, "inter-ethnic marriages" are mainly a problem if the couple is going to have children.

Hey Sip what do you mean by the cost of maintaning Armenainness? Do you mean that it comes at the expense of maybe dating someone from another culture who would make you happy/content/etc because you are holding out for an Armenain?

[ace]

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To some, the costs associated with trying to maintain "Armenianness" is simply too much compared to the benefits.

The "cost" is called culture genocide. Its kind of like the "cost" our ancestors suffered protecting our heritage in an atmosphere of oppression - yet, even in the most democratic and freest nations on the planet, we can't seem to understand that the "cost" is too high.

[ace]

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Unless you have a really strong sense of being Armenian with a strong Armo family and you're with someone who is willing to learn Armenian and immerse themselves in the culture, you're pretty much lost to us.

They are, but I don't treat them like they are, and neither should you?

[ckBejug]

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They are, but I don't treat them like they are, and neither should you?

I don't treat them like they are. Nor would I act as though someone I knew who was dating a non-Armenain was dead to me or automatically not an Armenian themselves. It is more of an idea, shared between us, that it's a pity they are now that much closer to losing their Armenianness altogether. This doesn't mean we would choose not to associate with them or alienate them.

It is, however, an unfortuate and obvious side-effect of dating a non-Armenain that you become alienated from your Armenian family and friends who might have get-togethers, etc, during which mostly Armenian is spoken, Armenian music is heard. So, your significant other feels left out because they can't understand what is going on and they don't have fun, etc. Which, in turn, usually means that you might choose not to attend such functions so as not to make your significant other uncomfortable. Which, in turns, leads to further alienation from all that is Armenian. Now, add to this equation kids who might not learn the language if not encouraged to do so by one parent, or, even if they do, don't talk much other than English at home, and you've introduced a whole new generation of 'half' Armenians who will probably themselves not seek out someone Armenain, and there you have the dilution of the culture. Don't say it wont happen, because more often than not it does.

This is not to say that there are no exceptions. I have both kinds in my family. An uncle who married an 'odar' (Mexican) and is now pretty much alienated completely from our family, his kids (who are my second cousins) don't know Armenain, and to tell you the truth, I didn't even know he existed until a few months ago. All because his wife feels uncomfortable around the Armenian speaking rest of the family. On the other hand,there's an aunt who married an 'odar' (Arab) who is very much a part of our family, himself understands Armenian, has made sure his kids (who are also my second cousins) know Armenian and consider themselves to be Armenian first and foremost. In fact, his older daughter just married an Armenian guy. Unforunately I am really convinced the second case happens few and far between and is really just an exception to the rule.

[Quarteria]

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What chance do I have to marry an Armenian man?

[MrLeftyHye]

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I dont know, why dont you tell us?

[sad_eyes]

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So if you all were in a relationship with an otar and were in love with them you would leave, right?

I wonder how many of you are all talk but no action type of individuals.

If armenians shouldnt marry otars than dating them should be out of the question as well.

And you would know that there are quite a bit of otar families that dont want their children to get involved with armenians too.

This is all so stupid.

[ace]

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So if you all were in a relationship with an otar and were in love with them you would leave, right?

I wonder how many of you are all talk but no action type of individuals.

If armenians shouldnt marry otars than dating them should be out of the question as well.

And you would know that there are quite a bit of otar families that dont want their children to get involved with armenians too.

This is all so stupid.

http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpost.php?p=169844&postcount=59

Thats actually one of the first things I said. Dont date. Dont fall in love. Dony marry.