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    You all may have heard last week that the Pope said condoms would increase the spread of AIDS in Africa...
    Dawkins responded to this by calling him either "stupid, ignorant, or dim."

    CLick for Telegraph article
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    Update... PZ Meyers reports based on a personal communication with Dawkins that Dawkins was actually misquoted and what he really said was that the Pope is either "Stupid, ignorant, or wicked"
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      Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

      The Pope is right, condoms seem to be good at decreasing pregnancies but fail to stop the spread of STD's. Not because they aren't effective but because most of the population doesn't use them consistently and/or correctly. Take a look at the STD statistics for "developed" nations.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

        Originally posted by Siggie View Post
        what he really said was that the Pope is either "Stupid, ignorant, or wicked"
        Either?
        He could be all three.
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          Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

          They're talking about AIDS, not HPV or crabs
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            Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

            The Pope only says this crap because of Onanism

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              Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

              Pope is human he has the right to be stupid
              Other people that belive in stupid man is also stupid

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                Why Pope Benedict Is Right About Condoms

                http://www.ncregister.com/site/article/17705/

                AIDS: Facts and Fixes

                Why Pope Benedict Is Right About Condoms

                Why? Because in Africa, many men and women have long-term sexual relationships with two or more regular partners.

                A UNAIDS-commissioned 2004 review examined the evidence to see how effective condom promotions had been in the fight against AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa — and found no evidence condom marketing had lowered HIV rates.

                “On the contrary, increased condom sales actually went hand-in-hand with higher HIV rates,” said lead researcher Norman Hearst, professor of family medicine and epidemiology at the University of California, San Francisco.

                In Botswana, condom sales rose from 1 million in 1993 to 3 million in 2001. Meanwhile, HIV prevalence among urban pregnant women skyrocketed from 27% to 45%. In Cameroon, as condom sales increased from 6 million to 15 million a year, HIV prevalence tripled from 3% to 9%.

                One problem with condom promotions in Africa, Hearst said, is that no more than 5% of any given population use condoms consistently with their regular partners. And in Africa, it’s those regular partners who drive the pandemic.



                Both sides can play with numbers in this argument, after all it comes down to who funds the research.

                It's all about money, marketing and the big buck.... nobody wants to cure or eliminate problems, there is money to be made.
                Last edited by KanadaHye; 04-02-2009, 01:51 PM.
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                  Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

                  Is that condom sale increase controlled for population growth?
                  Once again however, correlation does not equal causation. Perhaps condom sales increased because of population growth, increased sexual activity, lower cost, etc. What's increasing AIDS may be something unrelated.

                  Even the study you mention says that there's no evidence that it lowered rates. That doesn't mean it increased it.
                  If the problem is inconsistent or incorrect use, then the answer should be to educate not to abandon condoms altogether.
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                    Re: Dawkins says Pope is 'stupid'

                    Did you even read the article or are you just replying on emotion?
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