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I thought it would be nice to pick some brains and have a discussion on global warming.
We have all heard polar ice melting, water levels rising, flood scenarios, etc.
The other day I was enjoying the nice weather and drinking beer when I noticed I was down to my last couple bottles so I ran out to the beer store to get a case (I only had a couple bottles so chill out on the drinking and driving, lol). While I was out, I thought I'd kill yergoohad terchoon with one kar and do some grocery shopping. When I got home, the beer was already cheesh warm so I tossed a couple bottles in the freezer. Unfortunately, as I was watching TV, I dosed off. The next day I went to get some ice cream out of the freezer and guess what?!?! That's right, broken beer bottles!!!
Mmmmm.... ice cold beer... oh yeah, onto my idea.
The funny thing about water is that it EXPANDS when it freezes. So if the ice bergs (which are 9/10 th's below sea level) melt due to an increase in energy wouldn't the water surrounding land actually decrease? Also, the increase in temperature would mean that more water is evaporating due to an increase in energy.
Now, there are claims that loss of the ice would also disrupt the flow of water, etc. DAMN, how many MAN MADE DAMS are there that already change or restrict the flow of water naturally around land?!?! All of Netherlands would be under sea level if it weren't for the dikes built around it. So my question is... what is all the hysteria about the day after tomorrow?
Here is a snippet from an article I found:
Climate Change: Myths and Realities
Remarks of Eileen Claussen, President, Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Emissions Reductions: Main Street to Wall Street
"The Climate in North America"
New York, New York
July 17, 2002
"How significant is this warming? The earth's temperature has always fluctuated, but ordinarily these shifts occur over the course of centuries or millennia, not decades. The 1990s were the hottest decade of the entire millennium. The last five years were among the seven hottest on record. Scientists project that over the next century average global temperature will rise two to ten degrees Fahrenheit. A ten-degree increase would be the largest swing in global temperature since the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago. In some communities, this is no longer a theoretical matter. The impacts are being felt right now. Just ask the people of Alaska, where roads are crumbling and homes are sagging as the permafrost begins to melt."
What do I find wrong with the above?
First they state:
1) The earth's temperature has always fluctuated, but ordinarily these shifts occur over the course of centuries or millennia, not decades.
How do they know this? Are these people as old as cave men?
2) The 1990s were the hottest decade of the entire millennium.
Really? The entire millennium? How long have they been keeping record? The American nation is only 300 years old.
3) The last five years were among the seven hottest on record (this was stated in 2002).
The hottest on record where? New York City? Bangladesh? Yerevan? We are now in 2009. Then I found the chart of temperature in Alaska below during the hottest five years on record which weren't the hottest 5 yrs of temperatures in Alaska from years 1996-2001.
When were the other two years?
4) Scientists project that over the next century average global temperature will rise two to ten degrees Fahrenheit.
2 to 10 degrees? That's a huge range in terms of global temperature and an even greater prediction by the climate prophets.
5) A ten-degree increase would be the largest swing in global temperature since the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
And this was determined how? First, nobody knows IF there will be a 10 degree increase in the next century let alone what the global temperature was 12,000 years ago. When is the last time the weather man was wrong? Hmmm... he still has a job.
6) In some communities, this is no longer a theoretical matter. The impacts are being felt right now. Just ask the people of Alaska, where roads are crumbling and homes are sagging as the permafrost begins to melt."
Here is a chart showing the trend in the last 50 or so years. I don't see a millennium worth of data here. Actually, it looks more like a +/- 2 degree change every 25 years.
I would like some insight from others.
We have all heard polar ice melting, water levels rising, flood scenarios, etc.
The other day I was enjoying the nice weather and drinking beer when I noticed I was down to my last couple bottles so I ran out to the beer store to get a case (I only had a couple bottles so chill out on the drinking and driving, lol). While I was out, I thought I'd kill yergoohad terchoon with one kar and do some grocery shopping. When I got home, the beer was already cheesh warm so I tossed a couple bottles in the freezer. Unfortunately, as I was watching TV, I dosed off. The next day I went to get some ice cream out of the freezer and guess what?!?! That's right, broken beer bottles!!!
Mmmmm.... ice cold beer... oh yeah, onto my idea.
The funny thing about water is that it EXPANDS when it freezes. So if the ice bergs (which are 9/10 th's below sea level) melt due to an increase in energy wouldn't the water surrounding land actually decrease? Also, the increase in temperature would mean that more water is evaporating due to an increase in energy.
Now, there are claims that loss of the ice would also disrupt the flow of water, etc. DAMN, how many MAN MADE DAMS are there that already change or restrict the flow of water naturally around land?!?! All of Netherlands would be under sea level if it weren't for the dikes built around it. So my question is... what is all the hysteria about the day after tomorrow?
Here is a snippet from an article I found:
Climate Change: Myths and Realities
Remarks of Eileen Claussen, President, Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Emissions Reductions: Main Street to Wall Street
"The Climate in North America"
New York, New York
July 17, 2002
"How significant is this warming? The earth's temperature has always fluctuated, but ordinarily these shifts occur over the course of centuries or millennia, not decades. The 1990s were the hottest decade of the entire millennium. The last five years were among the seven hottest on record. Scientists project that over the next century average global temperature will rise two to ten degrees Fahrenheit. A ten-degree increase would be the largest swing in global temperature since the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago. In some communities, this is no longer a theoretical matter. The impacts are being felt right now. Just ask the people of Alaska, where roads are crumbling and homes are sagging as the permafrost begins to melt."
What do I find wrong with the above?
First they state:
1) The earth's temperature has always fluctuated, but ordinarily these shifts occur over the course of centuries or millennia, not decades.
How do they know this? Are these people as old as cave men?
2) The 1990s were the hottest decade of the entire millennium.
Really? The entire millennium? How long have they been keeping record? The American nation is only 300 years old.
3) The last five years were among the seven hottest on record (this was stated in 2002).
The hottest on record where? New York City? Bangladesh? Yerevan? We are now in 2009. Then I found the chart of temperature in Alaska below during the hottest five years on record which weren't the hottest 5 yrs of temperatures in Alaska from years 1996-2001.
When were the other two years?
4) Scientists project that over the next century average global temperature will rise two to ten degrees Fahrenheit.
2 to 10 degrees? That's a huge range in terms of global temperature and an even greater prediction by the climate prophets.
5) A ten-degree increase would be the largest swing in global temperature since the end of the last ice age 12,000 years ago.
And this was determined how? First, nobody knows IF there will be a 10 degree increase in the next century let alone what the global temperature was 12,000 years ago. When is the last time the weather man was wrong? Hmmm... he still has a job.
6) In some communities, this is no longer a theoretical matter. The impacts are being felt right now. Just ask the people of Alaska, where roads are crumbling and homes are sagging as the permafrost begins to melt."
Here is a chart showing the trend in the last 50 or so years. I don't see a millennium worth of data here. Actually, it looks more like a +/- 2 degree change every 25 years.
I would like some insight from others.
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