Re: NASA refurbishes video copies of moon landing
I guess we will continue the moon landing discussions here. Siggie i think the explanations provided are way too dependent on the difference in the environement between earth and the moon the guy's explanation to everything is well things are different on the moon. Sure things are different but they do not account for all the discrepencies. For as much as i hate fox news i think they had some good points which to me are not so easily explained away by the guy trying to debunk them using prety much the same explanation for everything. the difference in the environment is credited with stars becoming invisible, shadows disapearing and on and on... Also that flag waiving experiment done in a vacume is still done under the influence of the earths gravity not the moons. Yedtarts raised some questions which are not adressed (at least i didnt see it adressed) like the footprints under the lander. Kanadahye makes good points about the vacume experiment being done under earth's gravity also and he points out the movements and actions of the astronauts do not corespond to the way they would be moving in a environment with low gravity like the moon "Watch the video below... see how suspicious the second astronaut acts... trying to straighten out the flag before its even put into the ground. Also, how much do you think the astronaut putting in the flag weighs with all that equipment? 300 lbs? So if he was exerting any more than 50 lbs of force trying to put that pole into the ground, he would have started lifting off the ground himself. I don't know about you, but I need to put my entire body weight to jam a steel pole into soil let alone moon rock. If the second astronaut wanted to help, he should have held the first one down," this statement makes sence to me.
Besides these things there is a undeniable history of the USA government misleading its own public as well as the rest of the world for many reasons. It's like looking at a known liar who has lied to your face many times and accepting his word that he will pay back the $50 he wants to borrow from you. Much of the "evidence" suporting the idea that the landing was real comes from nasa itself which has had years of time and opportunity to justify this and that and forge this and that to make its story stick. One other thing that people forget about is that the "lunar rocks" which were brought back were proven to be fakes. There seems to me too much evidence that it was a fake and the explanaitions by those trying to debunk are one explaination fits all which actually doesnt seem to fit at all, atleast definetly not all. The discovery of water on the moon lately is fairly significant i think in relation to this topic. The amount of water discovered was significant, it wasnt a few pieces of ice but a huge amount. If there is so much water there now i am pretty sure it was there back then to yet there is no mention of water nor did any of the "moon rocks" brought back contain any traces of water. Finaly i want to restate something i said in a earlier post that the technology needed for this mission simply was not there at the time. The debunker guy talks of stabilization booster rockets which would have been needed to control the landing of the shuttle, in order to do their job these rockets needed sencors to tell them how much thrust to apply when and where in a changing situation, this technology simply was not there!
I guess we will continue the moon landing discussions here. Siggie i think the explanations provided are way too dependent on the difference in the environement between earth and the moon the guy's explanation to everything is well things are different on the moon. Sure things are different but they do not account for all the discrepencies. For as much as i hate fox news i think they had some good points which to me are not so easily explained away by the guy trying to debunk them using prety much the same explanation for everything. the difference in the environment is credited with stars becoming invisible, shadows disapearing and on and on... Also that flag waiving experiment done in a vacume is still done under the influence of the earths gravity not the moons. Yedtarts raised some questions which are not adressed (at least i didnt see it adressed) like the footprints under the lander. Kanadahye makes good points about the vacume experiment being done under earth's gravity also and he points out the movements and actions of the astronauts do not corespond to the way they would be moving in a environment with low gravity like the moon "Watch the video below... see how suspicious the second astronaut acts... trying to straighten out the flag before its even put into the ground. Also, how much do you think the astronaut putting in the flag weighs with all that equipment? 300 lbs? So if he was exerting any more than 50 lbs of force trying to put that pole into the ground, he would have started lifting off the ground himself. I don't know about you, but I need to put my entire body weight to jam a steel pole into soil let alone moon rock. If the second astronaut wanted to help, he should have held the first one down," this statement makes sence to me.
Besides these things there is a undeniable history of the USA government misleading its own public as well as the rest of the world for many reasons. It's like looking at a known liar who has lied to your face many times and accepting his word that he will pay back the $50 he wants to borrow from you. Much of the "evidence" suporting the idea that the landing was real comes from nasa itself which has had years of time and opportunity to justify this and that and forge this and that to make its story stick. One other thing that people forget about is that the "lunar rocks" which were brought back were proven to be fakes. There seems to me too much evidence that it was a fake and the explanaitions by those trying to debunk are one explaination fits all which actually doesnt seem to fit at all, atleast definetly not all. The discovery of water on the moon lately is fairly significant i think in relation to this topic. The amount of water discovered was significant, it wasnt a few pieces of ice but a huge amount. If there is so much water there now i am pretty sure it was there back then to yet there is no mention of water nor did any of the "moon rocks" brought back contain any traces of water. Finaly i want to restate something i said in a earlier post that the technology needed for this mission simply was not there at the time. The debunker guy talks of stabilization booster rockets which would have been needed to control the landing of the shuttle, in order to do their job these rockets needed sencors to tell them how much thrust to apply when and where in a changing situation, this technology simply was not there!
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