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Nasa's Glorious Failure

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  • #41
    Re: Nasa's Glorious Failure

    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    Umm... you do realize that when they hit, the largish meteors' impacts are like a nuclear explosions in the amount of energy released right? You expect the meteorite itself to survive that?
    Yep.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #42
      Re: Nasa's Glorious Failure

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      Yep.
      That's absurd; please find your way back to reality! As the hot fizzixist said, they are vaporized!
      Chicxulub's meteorite's impact would have released energy the equivalent of 100 million megatons of TNT. To put that in perspective, if we detonated ALL of the nuclear bombs on Earth, we'd get about 10,000 megatons.
      [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
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      • #43
        Re: Nasa's Glorious Failure

        Originally posted by Siggie View Post
        That's absurd; please find your way back to reality! As the hot fizzixist said, they are vaporized!
        Chicxulub's meteorite's impact would have released energy the equivalent of 100 million megatons of TNT. To put that in perspective, if we detonated ALL of the nuclear bombs on Earth, we'd get about 10,000 megatons.
        What if it was a mass of vulcanized rubber?

        Would have... if... but like the Moon landing, it never happened. I suggest people stop watching sci-fi and space movies, it's really disconnecting them from the facts here on Earth.
        Last edited by KanadaHye; 05-26-2011, 05:21 PM.
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        • #44
          Re: Nasa's Glorious Failure

          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          What if it was a mass of vulcanized rubber?

          Would have... if... but like the Moon landing, it never happened. I suggest people stop watching sci-fi and space movies, it's really disconnecting them from the facts here on Earth.
          Uh-huh... it was 50s scifi that inspired that "hoax." >>
          Always seeking to believe the opposite of what the majority believe doesn't make you a non-conformist, it just makes you a contrarian; still influenced completely by others, but just in a slightly different way.
          I can say this is the case because I'm confident that if you approached these things without your mind made up at the outset and just evaluated the evidence fairly, you'd conclude differently.
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          • #45
            Re: Nasa's Glorious Failure

            Some commercial British space firm Reaction Engines Ltd. needs a mere $12bn to develop the SKYLON Spaceplane. So the only way this thing will ever get of the ground is if their is defence intrest.

            ESA: British Skylon spaceplane seems perfectly possible

            Good news for spaceplane fanciers today, as a new report issued by the European Space Agency (ESA) says that "no impediments or critical items have been identified" which could block continuing development of the radical British-designed "Skylon" orbital craft.

            Many Reg readers will be familiar with the Skylon, modern-day successor to the HOTOL proposal of the 1980s. The idea is to build a huge, superjumbo-sized robot aeroplane which would mainly be filled with fuel tanks containing cryogenic liquid hydrogen and oxygen. Fitted with radical SABRE engines, the Skylon would make a rolling takeoff from a runway, leaving its oxygen tanks untouched to begin with and using the surrounding air to burn its fuel.

            As the aerospacecraft accelerated through Mach 6, it would have climbed to such heights that the air could no longer supply oxidiser and the SABREs would switch into rocket mode using onboard oxygen. The Skylon could achieve a low orbit above Earth without any need to throw away expensive fuel tanks or boosters, delivering as much as ten tonnes of cargo into space.

            Having completed delivery, Skylon would then re-enter the atmosphere, its novel huge-but-lightweight aeroshell resisting the heat, and come in to land on a runway just as the space shuttle does. But getting it ready for another mission would be comparatively trivial: it wouldn't need to be lifted and hoisted into a vertical position and strapped onto an enormous disposable launch stack of tanks and boosters before being moved to a launch pad very slowly on a mighty crawler vehicle. Rather the Skylon would simply be refuelled, reloaded and rolled back out onto the runway - taking off again in just two days, according to designers Reaction Engines Ltd.


            The new UK Space Agency last year asked the European Space Agency to "provide an independent assessment of the feasibility of the proposed design as well as to assess any areas of concern and provide recommendations for the future", and it is this ESA report which has now been released.

            According to the Propulsion Engineering and Structures specialists of the ESA, there's nothing about the Skylon design as it stands which is impossible. The ESA report (pdf) says:

            No impediments or critical items have been identified for either the SKYLON vehicle or the SABRE engine that are a block to further development.

            It is clear that the SABRE engine is critical for the successful development of the SKYLON vehicle.

            The back end of the SABRE is a relatively conventional hydrogen-oxygen rocket, the most powerful type of chemically fuelled propulsion kit that can be built. If that were all SABRE was, however, Skylon could never work as it would have to carry much more liquid oxygen than it can.

            The clever part of SABRE is its ability to use oxygen from the air and burn it in a normal rocket back end. This is achieved by taking air at the front and chilling it down incredibly fast using very, very powerful refrigeration gear running on a closed loop of liquid helium, which dumps the resulting heat into the cryogenic liquid-hydrogen fuel.
            ...


            http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05...on_esa_report/
            Last edited by retro; 06-16-2011, 05:35 PM.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yAkDde2DPc

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