Armenian and gay?

[hyebruin]

what's wrong with gay guys??? they're the best friends a girl can have!! :p not the best boyfriends.... :rolleyes: ....i just know i'm coming back as a coc k roach in another life :eek: :eek: :eek:

[CatWoman]

what's wrong with gay guys??? they're the best friends a girl can have!! :p not the best boyfriends.... :rolleyes::
They really are... I got two (one is still in the closet,lol ); however, when you're out with them it's fine as long as you're in a gay friendly environment, in more conservative places...ummm you wanna die!! haha

Harout, gotta admit, your friends got a wild imagination :D

[hyebruin]

They really are... I got two (one is still in the closet,lol ); however, when you're out with them it's fine as long as you're in a gay friendly environment, in more conservative places...ummm you wanna die!! haha

Harout, gotta admit, your friends got a wild imagination :D

yes, i was sort of friends with one...who was armenian and flamin!!! he was a nice guy, haha :p poor guy never actually did tell me though :( always using the 'they' pronoun to refer to his dates...yeah to be armenian and be gay is like living someone else's dream for your life, mainly your parents' and i've known those kind o' people too...sad really; if people were honest with themselves and those around them, life's problems can be faced with great strength...there is beauty in truth, no matter how ugly or painful the facts may be :)

[TigranJamharian]

Im sorry but they are absolutely disgusting, i cant stand being anywhere near them especially when they are so keen on showing their affection for each other, yes some of them are pretty good people personally but i just dont see how you can view the things they do as anything other than disgusting and repulsive.

[HyeJinx1984]

I actually have a lot of gay friends oddly enough... in any case, I think they're great, and are always really good at giving relationship advice because they have the unique ability to look at everything from a male and female point of view. However being gay and beihng a man pretending to be a woman are two different things, and it's the latter that I have a problem with. If you're a man act like a man.

[ckBejug]

I actually have a lot of gay friends oddly enough... in any case, I think they're great, and are always really good at giving relationship advice because they have the unique ability to look at everything from a male and female point of view. However being gay and beihng a man pretending to be a woman are two different things, and it's the latter that I have a problem with. If you're a man act like a man.

So... you have a lot of gay friends, a lot of xxxish friends, and a lot of female friends. DAAAAMN. You have A LOT of friends!!! :laugh:

[Harut82]

So... you have a lot of gay friends, a lot of xxxish friends, and a lot of female friends. DAAAAMN. You have A LOT of friends!!! :laugh:

Maybe all his friends are Lesbian xxxs :laugh:

[HyeJinx1984]

Yup. if you combine them all you get Jessica, my gay xxxish female friend.

[Genuine_Stud]

I don't mind gay people.... but they should keep it discreet.

You're gay.... fine... just dont try and convince me it's an ok thing to be. I'll
accept you as a person up to a point, but don't impose the ideology.

I don't want to walk down the street and have my lil cousin looking at a gay parade going on by with men dancing around in their underwear and getting intimate with each other, and then have my cousin ask me "why men are touching each other in weird places?"

:(

[Siggie]

I don't mind gay people.... but they should keep it discreet.
You're gay.... fine... just dont try and convince me it's an ok thing to be. I'll
accept you as a person up to a point, but don't impose the ideology.


Im sorry but they are absolutely disgusting, i cant stand being anywhere near them especially when they are so keen on showing their affection for each other, yes some of them are pretty good people personally but i just dont see how you can view the things they do as anything other than disgusting and repulsive.

What exactly is dicreet? I've never had anyone try to impose their ideology. They just want to be treated like everyone else. Is that imposing ideology? You don't have to agree with their lifestyles, but they can do what they want.
When heterosexual couples are all over each other in public, that isn't disgusting?
I don't have a problem with a gay couple out holding hands or sharing the occasional peck or kiss.

[!EEK]

Gays are the best hairdressers..don't make them feel bad.

[Tigranes]

I have no problem with queers, xxxs and other perverts that do what they do in private as long as they don't expect us to think it's normal or teach our kids that it's ok. It's not normal.

[HyePrincess]

my moms hair stylest is armenian and hes gay and he is a very good hairdresser like eek said they are the best

[Anonymouse]

Yea if two dudes wanna lay timber on each other, I suggest a quiet rest area, but please keep it discreet and to a minimum. I don't mind gay people so long as they don't become pests.

I can't stand flaming homos who talk about "Gay Pride" and are a little too out there with their "I'm a flaming homo and proud" attitude. They need to be mummified and thrown into prison. In today's culture I suspect homosexuality is less about 'coming out' or some problem certain individuals face, as it is a fad, a social trend, and a tool of manipulation, it's 'alternative' and a 'lifestyle'. It is just mass conditioning.

[Genuine_Stud]

What exactly is dicreet? I've never had anyone try to impose their ideology. They just want to be treated like everyone else. Is that imposing ideology? You don't have to agree with their lifestyles, but they can do what they want.
When heterosexual couples are all over each other in public, that isn't disgusting?
I don't have a problem with a gay couple out holding hands or sharing the occasional peck or kiss.


Discreet means.. not so obvious.
The media (whether it be newspapers, magazines, radio, television, films, etc.) continues to impose this ideology and tries to convince us to think that it's normal.

They can do what they want, yes... and can be treated like everyone else.... LIKE I SAID.... i don't mind that, but I do mind the gay pride parades and crap that they have every now and then. It's sick... if you haven't seen one on TV or in person.... then I suggest you do, as that may change your whole perception on them especially if you have a young family member with you and they bring up the question about why two guys or girls are kissing each other.

[hyebruin]

my moms hair stylest is armenian and hes gay and he is a very good hairdresser like eek said they are the best

hmmmm....is it who we think it is? :p (i know for sure, now, i'm coming back as some kind of a scary critter! :eek: )

:D

[Anonymouse]

Discreet means.. not so obvious.
The media (whether it be newspapers, magazines, radio, television, films, etc.) continues to impose this ideology and tries to convince us to think that it's normal.

They can do what they want, yes... and can be treated like everyone else.... LIKE I SAID.... i don't mind that, but I do mind the gay pride parades and crap that they have every now and then. It's sick... if you haven't seen one on TV or in person.... then I suggest you do, as that may change your whole perception on them especially if you have a young family member with you and they bring up the question about why two guys or girls are kissing each other.

An aberrant and deviant behavior is not normal, no matter how many times people try to spin it as such. I myself am tired of these annoying gay pride parades in which they flaunt their cok and balls to everyone else proudly proclaiming they are pillow biters. We get the point. If you come out of the closet, you should still stay close by, not veer off into the kitchen or the living room.

[hyebruin]

...If you come out of the closet, you should still stay close by, not veer off into the kitchen or the living room.

:laugh: :laugh: another original quote; this made me really laff outloud :D --i got this image of a bare naked but t running around the living room and the kitchen while trying to cover 'the privates' with pillows :laugh:

[CatWoman]

If you come out of the closet, you should still stay close by, not veer off into the kitchen or the living room.

OMG I'm like really laughing out loud, sooooo cute.... hyebruin I got the same image, I swear, except mine wasn't butt naked, he was wearing a speedo type of thing and running around the house, OMG so funny! So cute! :laugh: :laugh:

[HyeJinx1984]

Yesterday I was baby sitting my brother while I was over at my dad's house and my step mom's friend Edgar, a gay guy, called and while I was on the phone all my little brother was doing was shouting obsenities. After I got off the phone I asked him what the hell was wrong with him and he just kept spouting rhetoric about how being gay is evil and all that.. the kid's 9 years old and he's ready to take this poor guy to the stake simply because he's gay. What pisses me off the most is that he learned this stupid mentality from his mother, who infact, is the friend of this gay guy! And probably the fact that it's ILLEGEAL to even BE gay in Armenia doesn't help this mentality... Armenians in general have a serious, serious, serious, SERIOUS homorphobia issue.

[Anonymouse]

Yesterday I was baby sitting my brother while I was over at my dad's house and my step mom's friend Edgar, a gay guy, called and while I was on the phone all my little brother was doing was shouting obsenities. After I got off the phone I asked him what the hell was wrong with him and he just kept spouting rhetoric about how being gay is evil and all that.. the kid's 9 years old and he's ready to take this poor guy to the stake simply because he's gay. What pisses me off the most is that he learned this stupid mentality from his mother, who infact, is the friend of this gay guy! And probably the fact that it's ILLEGEAL to even BE gay in Armenia doesn't help this mentality... Armenians in general have a serious, serious, serious, SERIOUS homorphobia issue.

OMG IM HOMOPHOBIC! WOW YOU REALLY ENLIGHTENED ME SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT!?

[HyeJinx1984]

My point is people need to stop hating gays. I thought it was pretty self explanatory.

[violette829]

hmmmm....is it who we think it is? :p (i know for sure, now, i'm coming back as some kind of a scary critter! :eek: )

:D


ZAREH?????????// OMG!!!! Yea, he's pretty.

[nunechka]

i concur stop hating gays and they wont be flaming... stop pushing them and bashing them and they wont be in your face... PERIOD!

i personally have 2 gay friends, (THE BEST) sweet guys, i never worry about being hit on... anywho, i dont like it when people are intimate in public in general... its private keep it there... but thats my preferrence and i will not force people to do what i want...

i REALLY dont get how being gay and open about "imposes" on other guys??? unless you are lying in the middle of hetero and homo and you are not sure so you feel you may be gay or you may not, or you dont know... but unless you have these feelings then there is NO imposition...

95% of the guys who feel that way about gay guys, LOOOOOOOVE lesbian women... i dont get it? because a lesbian would NEVER!!! like you! she thinks what you have is useless... LOL! TRULY! and HONESTLY!... you are as useless as a sweater in mexico in the middle of august... LOL!

[angelik22]

I don't mind gay people.... but they should keep it discreet.

You're gay.... fine... just dont try and convince me it's an ok thing to be. I'll
accept you as a person up to a point, but don't impose the ideology.

I don't want to walk down the street and have my lil cousin looking at a gay parade going on by with men dancing around in their underwear and getting intimate with each other, and then have my cousin ask me "why men are touching each other in weird places?"

:(

i so agree--

heres what i think- dont agree with the notion of homosexuality- if they wanna be gay- okie- i dont care- as long as i dnt see it and it doesnt afffect me--> but what i hate is when some people are soooooo damn protective of i- when u say u dont think its right- or u dont think its moral- they get all up in your face- as if your saying theyre evil- if i thought it was so right id be gay- so i dont think it is right and therefore im not gay- so for those who are straight and get offended when someone else says they dont support the idea of homosexuality- why dont those people wo get offended- why arent they gay if they think its so right.....

anywhoo
i knew alot of gay people in high school and i was cool with them- ill never let their personal lives efect how i treat them as a person and human being- they can do whatever they want between the sheets- as long as i dont see it in public.

i dont support the idea and have a stand on it- ill be honest and say that i dont agree with it...

[nunechka]

angelik #1 homosexuality is not an idea... sexuality is a not something you choose, it is something you are born with...

not agreeing with something like that is like saying "you dont agree with the idea of fingers"... ??? i dont argue with people who dont like homosexuals because just like anything else in this world there are those who are more tolarent of difference and there are those who arent... but i do argue with people who agree with gay bashing, those people who think its ok to abuse and kill gays... as a matter of fact the Bible doesnt say its against gays, it says that men should not ABUSE men with sex... LOL! thats funny, you mean to tell me that the people who wrote the bible "interpreted" Gods word as to not abuse your mate with sex... thats why sexual harrassment is not a good thing... but you see it never says gays are the evil things... NEVER...

public affection, like i said before, i dont think that ANYONE should be kissy and huggy in public... its ok to hold hands, but to be all over each other and to have that dumb ass parade... WAHTEVER they need to shut up and go back to their normal lives... i dont go around in heterosexual parades showing off my ass... so why do they??? but as soon as people are more tolerant and accepting and stop thinking that homosexuality is a choice, an idea, or anything else that is offensive to these people, they will not have parades to show off their prides...

[Harut82]

angelik #1 homosexuality is not an idea... sexuality is a not something you choose, it is something you are born with...


how can you be so sure?

[hyebruin]

ZAREH?????????// OMG!!!! Yea, he's pretty.

:laugh: :laugh: u have balls girl! haha....well, i don't know if he's 'pretty' but his salon looks niiiiiice! :D i've never been inside though, maybe one day...

[nunechka]

were you born heterosexual harut or did you choose that??? is that ok??? if so then someone can be born homosexual just as easily... it is scientifically prooven...

homosexuality isnt a fashion sense you decide to go with when you get older... homosexuality has existed as long as there have been human beings... even men dressing up as woman has existed for the same period... women too... you know about the amazons right? well woman think men are obsolete and they prefer to go to them when they want to have babies, other wise no need for them at all... FOR CENTURIES!

[angelik22]

nunechka so far - as long as ive been studying bio and psychology- homosexuality is neither fully genetic or psychological so dont argue that its not an idea or that its genetiec... besides i didnt say i dont like them- i said i dont agree with what theyre doing thats all

[Hayq]

I beg to differ! There are many people who say being Gay comes natural, how does this come naturally to someone? IF it is Natural that would mean it is on the lines of something more like a genetic anomoly where the male is confused on which sex to breed with. Think about it, Biologically, all creatures have a drive to reproduce and thrive. This is not a true statement for homosexuals because it just does not FIT! Ever heard of Opposites attract? Well apparently the Gays havent. Is it Genetic? If it is, how come Greece and Italy dont have a 50%+++++ Homosexual population.

I understand that some boys out there feel that they are too weak to be men, there are boys who are afraid, boys who like to dress nicely, boys who prefer to play with something either than Guns and Tanks. That does not make you a homosexual.

The thing here is the media, they incourage homosexuals. Why? well, obviously, Homosexuals buy more clothing and spend more money on themselves rather than the average hetero male. It is all a business.

So, I really don't accept homosexuality as being natural, it is either a genetic mess up (which IMO is a big mistake), or mentally confused. If they want to phuck one another, let them do it in their homes, not on the street. Because Taboo is contagous.

[angelik22]

neither do i- i agree with u hayq...

i dunno... i just dont even want to think about it- it disgusts me--

thinking of it from the evolutionary prespective-- human beings main purpose is to reproduce and survive.... as is any other animal's purpose- so whats the purpose of homosexuals? they do not reproduce---- evolutionary wise- they dont have a purpose- so i dont think its NATURAL...

[Hayq]

There it is, it does not make sense Biologically.

[GSTracer05]

I don't like gays and I especially don't like the gay parades where they flaunt their homosexuality. I'm glad that so far gay marriage has not be legalized in the majority of states. Bush did something right! It would cause even more gays to come out of the closet.

They should have just kept it in the closet as far as I'm concerned. It's a shame the U.S. isnt like Armenia in this issue. My parents tell me they didnt even know homosexuals existed back when they resided in Armenia.

[ckBejug]

There it is, it does not make sense Biologically.

I wish people wouldn't say "it's not biological" when they know absolutely NOTHING about the biology behind it. Now, it's one thing not to agree with the lifestyle and the excessive PDA (which I am wholly against) and it's another thing to realize that there are biological reasons some people are gay and others are not.

[GSTracer05]

What's the point of arguing whether its biological or not? I don't like it, I don't accept it and I don't give a rat's ass if its biological or a conscious decision.

[Hayq]

Its more for the Hippy's who believe that anything is alright.

Hey, it is basic biology, I have studied that.

[Armenian]

Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Humans are not born homosexual, they develop into one.

Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Even bilologically, homosexuality is against the principal laws of nature. And please, I dont want to hear: "Well, male dogs hump other male dogs"... Dogs hump anything and everything - including firehydrants!

Is homosexuality a sin? Yes indeed. However, in the eyes of God, homosexuality, as a sin, is no more and no less severe than adultery, pedophilia and/or bestiality.

Is it disgusting? Yes very much so. Nevertheless, the disgusting aspect about homosexuality is only a sociological perception that a particular culture places upon the practice. Therefore, ancient Greeks looked upon the disorder as a higher form of sexual expression.

Is it curable? I don't know. However, I would dare to say that it is as curable as any other severe psychological disorder. Maybe physical torture and shock therapy might work. Just kidding.

Nevertheless, homosexuality needs to be recognized as a "psycho-sexual disorder" - not an alternative sexual lifestyle choice. That is where I have a problem with Homos. Not because they are Homos, but because they want to force their unnatural "disorder" to be accepted as a normal way of life.

What's next, Armenians for Necrophilia rights???

[MadHandle]

Most homosexuals that I see almost always socialize with girls and I'm guessing they have since kindergarden...so I can see where their attraction to the same sex comes from...they don't know anything about guys and so are attracted to them. And no, I don't think that is a normal behaviour, but they can do whatever they want.

[xBaron Dants]

"The state has no business in the country's bedrooms" - Pierre Elliot Trudeau

I really could not care less about people being gay. Obviously not my thing, and not very pleasant to see either, but people can do whatever they want. If they want to get married, go ahead! Doesn't affect me in any way. I agree that the flaunting of homosexuality gets annoying (and trust me....Montreal has a huge gay parade every year), but other than that, just let them be.

But then again, I DO live in Canada, so we tend to think differently on this issue. :)

[MadHandle]

"The state has no business in the country's bedrooms" - Pierre Elliot Trudeau

I really could not care less about people being gay. Obviously not my thing, and not very pleasant to see either, but people can do whatever they want. If they want to get married, go ahead! Doesn't affect me in any way. I agree that the flaunting of homosexuality gets annoying (and trust me....Montreal has a huge gay parade every year), but other than that, just let them be.

But then again, I DO live in Canada, so we tend to think differently on this issue. :)

plus...gay marriage is now legal in Canada

[nunechka]

how many men here like lesbian women??? or how many men here are MORE OKAY with lesbian women???

sorry angelik i guess i didnt really understand what you were saying... anywho i never said its genetics or hereditary, or psychological... i said its proven that people are born with it, they dont choose it... just like how you are born thinking you are hetero...

stop hating the gays and they wont have to flaunt it... let me ask you, do you flaut the fact that you are heterosexual??? do we have parades for that? NO! but any minority who is opressed, will eventually find a way to show off their pride for something that is natural...

as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...

[XxgoeyxX]

as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...

I'm sorry Nune...I dont mean to be rude..but I think your being a little silly by saying this. Yes I do agree God has created a million things for a million reasons, but God didnt creat homosexual so they can adobt children. God created lovely, caring, human beings to do such things.

The question to why there are children without parents...well there are endless answers to that. But for the sake of making a statement...I do not believe that is one of reason there are homosexuals in this world.


P.S ....yes it is apart of nature to reproduce. Now I am not the best at understanding the Bible complately...but God did say "be fruitful and multiply." If I am wrong please someone correct me!

[sSsflamesSs]

how many men here like lesbian women??? or how many men here are MORE OKAY with lesbian women???

sorry angelik i guess i didnt really understand what you were saying... anywho i never said its genetics or hereditary, or psychological... i said its proven that people are born with it, they dont choose it... just like how you are born thinking you are hetero...

If you are born with it, it's automatically genetic/hereditary/bla bla bla. It's in your genes before the environment has had a chance to mold you. Ever heard of the NATURE part of Nature vs. Nurture?

stop hating the gays and they wont have to flaunt it... let me ask you, do you flaut the fact that you are heterosexual??? do we have parades for that? NO! but any minority who is opressed, will eventually find a way to show off their pride for something that is natural...

It's about as natural as me eating with my toes.

as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...

Can you sound any more ridiculous? I think not.

And what's your argument for bisexuals, eh? Did God also create them for some reason or another? :laugh:

Since when did being gay become synonymous with being caring and selfless?

[nunechka]

i was half joking gohar jan... i dont know why god does anything either... heck i dont know why fate is the way it is... we have this saying in armenian right? CHAKATAGIR!

it is fate, it is written on your forehead when you are born... it is inevitable... so these people who are not harming anyone, they are concious adults who just happen to have this chakatagir...

[nunechka]

geeeeeze i didnt know there were such homophobs in here... settle down beavis no one is going to all of a sudden make you gay, if you are not gay no one can make you gay...

flames are you gay??? do you think by having a gay neighbor you might turn gay??? do you think that if there is a gay pride parade you are going to see it and all of a sudden turn gay??? do you think that having gay people on tv is going to make you gay??? if you answered no to all of these questions then rest assure, no one will change the heteros... i know i am NOT gay, and i am confident, and thats why i accept others who are as confident that they are homos...

here take this "for fun" test and see it for yourself...
http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/G/gayometer/

[sSsflamesSs]

geeeeeze i didnt know there were such homophobs in here... settle down beavis no one is going to all of a sudden make you gay, if you are not gay no one can make you gay...

flames are you gay??? do you think by having a gay neighbor you might turn gay??? do you think that if there is a gay pride parade you are going to see it and all of a sudden turn gay??? do you think that having gay people on tv is going to make you gay??? if you answered no to all of these questions then rest assure, no one will change the heteros... i know i am NOT gay, and i am confident, and thats why i accept others who are as confident that they are homos...

here take this "for fun" test and see it for yourself...
http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/G/gayometer/

YOU'VE GOT THE GAY VIRUS! GET AWAY FROM ME! AAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!

[ckBejug]

Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Humans are not born homosexual, they develop into one.

Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Even bilologically, homosexuality is against the principal laws of nature. And please, I dont want to hear: "Well, male dogs hump other male dogs"... Dogs hump anything and everything - including firehydrants!

Is homosexuality a sin? Yes indeed. However, in the eyes of God, homosexuality, as a sin, is no more and no less severe than adultery, pedophilia and/or bestiality.

Is it disgusting? Yes very much so. Nevertheless, the disgusting aspect about homosexuality is only a sociological perception that a particular culture places upon the practice. Therefore, ancient Greeks looked upon the disorder as a higher form of sexual expression.

Is it curable? I don't know. However, I would dare to say that it is as curable as any other severe psychological disorder. Maybe physical torture and shock therapy might work. Just kidding.

Nevertheless, homosexuality needs to be recognized as a "psycho-sexual disorder" - not an alternative sexual lifestyle choice. That is where I have a problem with Homos. Not because they are Homos, but because they want to force their unnatural "disorder" to be accepted as a normal way of life.

What's next, Armenians for Necrophilia rights???

Something that is clearly been found to be due to a chemical imbalance in the hypothalmus of human beings can not be defined as a BEHAVIORAL disorder. Why can't you just live and let live? Why can't people seriously live their own lives and not make themselves feel like the better person by judging others? I can not believe that rather than furthering themselves and living their lives, people would choose to waste so much of what seems to be hatred for people who, for all you know, CAN'T help the way they are. I am not talking here about people who are bisexual and like to experiment with sex. I loathe these people just as I loathe sexually promiscuous heterosexuals. However, if a couple, gay or straight, choose to love eachother and be sexual with eachother as long as it's in PRIVATE, they can damn well do as they please. BEHAVIORAL DISORDER would be one that would give a man urges to sleep with an animal or a child or something dead, not show their love for another consenting adult human being.

[GSTracer05]

Nunechka, some of your reasoning absolutely makes no sense at all. You think we have a dislike of homosexuals because we are afraid that we will become ones ourselves? That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard.

[nunechka]

gst then why are there so many people who hate homosexuals because they are homosexuals... i just cant connect why they are so hostile to them??? there is a phobia here, and we should just stop bashing on them and hating them...

its not like they like living in a society that doesnt accept them... its very difficult for them... men get married have children and then when they are like 40yrs old they just dont want to live the lie anymore, so they come out, and there are so many people who are totally hostile to them... and in a strange way, the ones who are not confident of their own sexuality are usually the ones who are "agaist" them...

my family is totally typical Armenian... my dad and my mom both think gay people are as natural as being heterosexual... my dad's explaination was that gays didnt come into existance in the 21th century, they have been around FOREVER, as long as people have existed and cultures have been formed... especially in Greek society... now there is no reason to say i dont agree or i do agree, its an acceptance thing and we just do that and we should move on... its not important that a woman or a man is gay, its important if they are good people... most gay people are responsible, hardworking, well to do, people who recycle, have cars, homes, and mostly they give to our society good things, like tasteful fashion, cleanliness, tv shows that are fun to watch, etc... i dont see how they threaten anyone in anyway... i am still going to marry a guy and have little armenian children, who will grow up and vacation in armenia in our home there...

[XxgoeyxX]

gst then why are there so many people who hate homosexuals because they are homosexuals... i just cant connect why they are so hostile to them??? there is a phobia here, and we should just stop bashing on them and hating them...

its not like they like living in a society that doesnt accept them... its very difficult for them... men get married have children and then when they are like 40yrs old they just dont want to live the lie anymore, so they come out, and there are so many people who are totally hostile to them... and in a strange way, the ones who are not confident of their own sexuality are usually the ones who are "agaist" them...

my family is totally typical Armenian... my dad and my mom both think gay people are as natural as being heterosexual... my dad's explaination was that gays didnt come into existance in the 21th century, they have been around FOREVER, as long as people have existed and cultures have been formed... especially in Greek society... now there is no reason to say i dont agree or i do agree, its an acceptance thing and we just do that and we should move on... its not important that a woman or a man is gay, its important if they are good people... most gay people are responsible, hardworking, well to do, people who recycle, have cars, homes, and mostly they give to our society good things, like tasteful fashion, cleanliness, tv shows that are fun to watch, etc... i dont see how they threaten anyone in anyway... i am still going to marry a guy and have little armenian children, who will grow up and vacation in armenia in our home there...



You cannot hate a homosexual if you are one. I dont know how that is possible. Unless you are scared to death someone is going to kill you so you act as though you hate them.

People in this day have forgotten about caring for others. They are so concerned with themselves and their own pleasures they dont know what it means to care for someone. That is why I agree with Ck.

Everything that you stated homosexuals do for this socity...can go for all human beings. The Greeks were homosexual for many reasons. If I remember this correctly, one reason was that at the time it was believed a woman was apart of this world for fertilization. They were only empty vassels which men planted their seeds. The other reason was believed that the only true and pure love was between two man.

Now times change...and people think differently. Women back then wanted their husbands to have lover who were man not woman..so that they children could inherit everything. Again times change.


ehh I dont know!

[nunechka]

gohar i had forgotten about those reasons... LOL! they are sort of funny... that is absolutely true... so our society shapes how men and women act...

ooffff i know we are good people here, and i know that there is no one that would beat up a gay person for being gay... SOOOOOOOO! its late we should sleep...

[Hayq]

Nunechka, homosexuals are frowned upon by societies that care about the welfare of children and families. And a homosexual couple do not fit that dream. You, and your lesbian friends, can have all the fun you want in your bedroom, but not on the streets. Notice what Thoreau said, IN THE BEDROOM, not on the phucking street.

Nunechka, homosexuals in Greece was not a genetic thing, it was a society thing. They believed women were inferior and that men could bond much more being lovers than friends. If this was true, Greece would have been full of Homosexuals.

"mostly they give to our society good things, like tasteful fashion, cleanliness, tv shows that are fun to watch, etc... "

Hetero men have fashion, hetero men are clean, and those TV shows are stupid because they do not educate. All my 13 year old sister does everyday is watch those stupid shows and re-arranges her room.

And I am tired of being called a Homophob, I am not afraid of them, I am anti-homosexual. Got that?

[sSsflamesSs]

And I am tired of being called a Homophob, I am not afraid of them, I am anti-homosexual. Got that?

Don't translate the word literally. It implies both fear and/or dislike.

[nunechka]

flames apperently hayq doesnt understand what is a phobia...

HAYQ i SAID "our society shapes how men and women act... "

i dont have one single lesbian friend but i do have 2 gay friends... and they are just as normal and i dont see anythign wrong with them... they have the best advice about dating men, and i really appreciate their input and they listen to my problems, they understand what its like to date a man... its not easy...

[!EEK]

I want a lesbian friend :crying: :crying: My hairdressers are gay but I don't treat them diferently...they ask me whats up with girls etc.... And some of them are soo funny :laugh:

[Armenian]

Something that is clearly been found to be due to a chemical imbalance in the hypothalmus of human beings can not be defined as a BEHAVIORAL disorder. Why can't you just live and let live? Why can't people seriously live their own lives and not make themselves feel like the better person by judging others? I can not believe that rather than furthering themselves and living their lives, people would choose to waste so much of what seems to be hatred for people who, for all you know, CAN'T help the way they are. I am not talking here about people who are bisexual and like to experiment with sex. I loathe these people just as I loathe sexually promiscuous heterosexuals. However, if a couple, gay or straight, choose to love eachother and be sexual with eachother as long as it's in PRIVATE, they can damn well do as they please. BEHAVIORAL DISORDER would be one that would give a man urges to sleep with an animal or a child or something dead, not show their love for another consenting adult human being.

Believe it or not, I am very tolerant of people why are not like me, nor do I consider myself superior to anyone. Nevertheless, to reply to your statement, chemical imbalances are brought upon by psychological/behavioral problems - they are interconnected. Don't take my word for it, ask any psychologist or psychotherapist (one who is not gay of course).

However, the issue was: Is homosexuality genetic or not? The answer is no, it is not genetic. There has been an army of researchers for the past thirty years relentlessly trying to prove that homosexuality is genetic, yet they have utterly failed. Common sense and logic coupled with scientific objectivity reveals homosexuality to be a sexual disorder - nothing else.

What two consenting adults do behind closed doors is not my problem. I have a problem with homosexuals 'forcing' their lifestyles upon heterosexuals. As such, I would not want to see activist groups promoting adultery or pedophilia as a acceptable forms of social behavior - regardless of whether or not is occurs in society.

[!EEK]

here take this "for fun" test and see it for yourself...
http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/G/gayometer/

33%.......

Hmmmmmm....

[nunechka]

WOW eek jan, you are suspect... lol dont worry i came out a bi in that test... trust me the only womans body i like is MY OWN! lol!

[Harut82]

Wen it asked who do you have sex with? Did you check the box both? :D :laugh:

[Harut82]

apparently im 23 percent gay :evil:

[XxgoeyxX]

apparently im 23 percent gay :evil:


I knew it harut. You never fooled me!

[Harut82]

I knew it harut. You never fooled me!

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I wanna see you talke the test :D

[nunechka]

NO! lol but i think it came from my answer to not being grossed out at both types of porn... i just dont see a problem with two men or to women... BUT i prefer a MAN! for me... :D

[nunechka]

wow you are really hetero if you scored 23%... because sexuality is on a continuam you are not even in the middle of the middle...

dont worry you are a normal guy... :p

[Harut82]

NO! lol but i think it came from my answer to not being grossed out at both types of porn... i just dont see a problem with two men or to women... BUT i prefer a MAN! for me... :D

Nop that wasnt it :laugh: I also didn't see a problem with thathttp://www.socalrsxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/thumb.gif As long as its 2 girls. I definetly wouldn't want to see 2 guyshttp://www.socalrsxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/barf.gif

[Harut82]

wow you are really hetero if you scored 23%... because sexuality is on a continuam you are not even in the middle of the middle...

dont worry you are a normal guy... :p
haha thanks, but I wasnt doubting myslef. You need to tell that to Goey :evil:

[nunechka]

then what was it :p

dont be shy :o it'll be just between you and the forum...

[Harut82]

then what was it :p

dont be shy :o it'll be just between you and the forum...

wow you are really hetero if you scored 23%... because sexuality is on a continuam you are not even in the middle of the middle... . .

[!EEK]

..well..I'll stop the lying..I had exactly 23% too....just because the arrow was still in "too hetero"..I did not liked the "too" and lied :(

[Anonymouse]

i concur stop hating gays and they wont be flaming... stop pushing them and bashing them and they wont be in your face... PERIOD!

i personally have 2 gay friends, (THE BEST) sweet guys, i never worry about being hit on... anywho, i dont like it when people are intimate in public in general... its private keep it there... but thats my preferrence and i will not force people to do what i want...

i REALLY dont get how being gay and open about "imposes" on other guys??? unless you are lying in the middle of hetero and homo and you are not sure so you feel you may be gay or you may not, or you dont know... but unless you have these feelings then there is NO imposition...

95% of the guys who feel that way about gay guys, LOOOOOOOVE lesbian women... i dont get it? because a lesbian would NEVER!!! like you! she thinks what you have is useless... LOL! TRULY! and HONESTLY!... you are as useless as a sweater in mexico in the middle of august... LOL!

I love how the hippie lefty liberal egalitarians like to spin the old saying "The reason you hate gays is because you're gay..."

Right. We [95%] are all gay and we don't know it. How perceptive you are nunechka. And you can be sure wherever there is a topic involving liberal lefty egalitarian cliche issues like homosexuality, or race, or feminism, nunechka will be there with her emotional rhetoric throwing out mystic percent symbols and opinionated jargon. You really need a show or something, like Oprah where you will have a massive gay and feminist following.

[!EEK]

Nunejan...don't mind him..he got offended of this tiny part of your message


a lesbian would NEVER!!! like you! she thinks what you have is useless... LOL! TRULY! and HONESTLY!... you are as useless as a sweater in mexico in the middle of august... LOL!


;) :wave: :p

[HyePrincess]

nope bruin jan it isnt zareh its aruthur it used to be zareh.

[GSTracer05]

I want a lesbian friend :crying: :crying: My hairdressers are gay but I don't treat them diferently...they ask me whats up with girls etc.... And some of them are soo funny :laugh:

Hairdressers? Dude. And just how many do you have? (No wonder you scored some points on the test) Us guys usually call the person who cuts our hair the barber. "Yeah, I'm going to go get a cut at the barber". Not "Oh I'm going to go get my hair done by a hairdresser." :) Heh.

[Anonymouse]

I cut my own hair. I also style my own hair, which involves doing nothing to it except exposing it against the winds.

[Hayq]

30 percent Gay.

[Anonymouse]

I want you. That makes us 100%.

[Hayq]

lol...stay away!

we are getting a bit side tracked.

[nunechka]

anony i do need my own show... *sigh*

but i didnt throw out any percentages... what you are talking about :confused:

anywho, TAKE THE TEST i posted and you will have your own percentage :p

[HyeJinx1984]

100% :eek: ........................

[Harut82]

100% :eek: ........................
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[Anonymouse]

That test is stupid. I looked at the questions and some questions dont have my options and some just don't apply.

[GSTracer05]

I took that stupid test. 23%. "Too straight". Jinx you screwed up. The meter goes up to 100% automatically, but you have to click on the "GET RESULTS" key on the right of it to get YOUR results. Haha. Unless of course you did that, and really are 100% gay.

[Anonymouse]

I got 30%. I'm more gay than you tracer.

[XxgoeyxX]

I got 50%


P.S IM NOT GAY!

[Hayq]

umm...could this mean that you are 30percent feminine???

I doubt it has anything to be gay.

[XxgoeyxX]

Yeah the questions were really silly. I couldnt answer like half of them because I dont do those stuff and it didnt apply to me at all. I just answered it like "if I were married would I do that." lol

But I cracked up when it said 50%

I'm far more 30 percent feminine. much muchhh more! :laugh:

[angelik22]

apparently im 23 percent gay :evil:
not by the way you e-kiss ;) :laugh:

[!EEK]

not by the way you e-kiss ;) :laugh:
:o Eheh..how does he e-kiss.. :(


http://progcenter.free.fr/panos/GS_1b5bea0933f91673c3f99db3a701d4cf.png
I joke I joke

[sSsflamesSs]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/sSsflamesSs/blah.jpg

Wow, I'm gayer than I thought. :laugh:

[nunechka]

people it tells you what the percentage means... all the percentage that i have seen dont say GAY at all, they say STAIGHT! i cant believe you would interpret something that says "too straight" as gay??? i dont get it???

am i not reading correctly??? the words "too" "straight" means gay???

[sSsflamesSs]

people it tells you what the percentage means... all the percentage that i have seen dont say GAY at all, they say STAIGHT! i cant believe you would interpret something that says "too straight" as gay??? i dont get it???

am i not reading correctly??? the words "too" "straight" means gay???

Huh ?

[Harut82]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/sSsflamesSs/blah.jpg

If you look at the graph anything under 50% is labled too straight and everythng over is labeled too gay

I think nunechka is trying to say that she cant believe were intepreting 20, 30, or 40% as being gay because in the graph its labeled too straight
How can something be gay if it is too straight?

[Hayq]

stupid scale because if 49percent is TOO STRAIGHt 2 percent is TOO GAY? cmon? No middle point either.

[nunechka]

hayq do you think that there "should" be a middle point???
:laugh:

[Hayq]

i dont know, but calling someone TOO GAY or TOO STRAIGHT within the difference of 2 percent sounds kind of wrong, doesnt it?

i know what you're tryin to say...

[HyeJinx1984]

I still think it's funny that people think you can be a percentage gay... no one's 30% gay or 70% gay... you're either gay or you're not, simple as that. And no Bisexual isn't "50% gay," that's just being too damn greedy ;)

[TigranJamharian]

40% gay. does that make me gayer than most? and am i the only one here that doesnt get off on lesbo porn?

[HyeJinx1984]

40% gay. does that make me gayer than most? and am i the only one here that doesnt get off on lesbo porn?

Me neither, I've always been a one on one kinda guy. After all... I only got one stick, and it can only fill one hole. What am I gonna do with all these extra holes? Too many holes a bad thing. Holey moley.

[XxgoeyxX]

Me neither, I've always been a one on one kinda guy. After all... I only got one stick, and it can only fill one hole. What am I gonna do with all these extra holes? Too many holes a bad thing. Holey moley.


TO much information about your stick and Holes!!!!! :evil:

[Harut82]

TO much information about your stick and Holes!!!!! :evil:
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[HyeJinx1984]

http://socalrsxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif
*points* that, by the way, is my stick.. so stop holding it.. and nailing signs to it.. *wince*

[Harut82]

*points* that, by the way, is my stick.. so stop holding it.. and nailing signs to it.. *wince*
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I'm gonna pretend that you didn't say that

[TigranJamharian]

haha, you guys are hilarious. but thanks for making me feel better jinx. i thought i was strange or something. now the real question, gangbangs anyone?

[!EEK]

Why is HyeJynx getting that horny? We are not even in spring...

:confused:

[HyeJinx1984]

haha, you guys are hilarious. but thanks for making me feel better jinx. i thought i was strange or something. now the real question, gangbangs anyone?

I'm down :D .......................

[Harut82]

haha, you guys are hilarious. but thanks for making me feel better jinx. i thought i was strange or something. now the real question, gangbangs anyone?
:laugh: http://socalrsxforums.com/forums/images/smilies/grouphug.gif

[Harut82]

I'm down :D .......................

I'f nobody else volunteers it will be just you two :D

At leats this is the correct thread

[XxgoeyxX]

Why is HyeJynx getting that horny? We are not even in spring...

:confused:


Jinx is always horny!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HyeJinx1984]

Jinx is always horny!!!!!!!!!!!!

*points above* yup...

[TigranJamharian]

HAHAHA. im crackin up over here.

[XxgoeyxX]

I'f nobody else volunteers it will be just you two :D

At leats this is the correct thread


I'm guessing with your 23% gay factor you would like to join them.




Tell me you at least got that joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Harut82]

I'm guessing with your 23% gay factor you would like to join them.




Tell me you at least got that joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:evil: .

[!EEK]

http://img45.exs.cx/img45/8648/won9dz.png

I answered to the gayest possible answers..and I've got a 93% :( anyway, I'm taking the lead :p

[nunechka]

this is getting more interesting then i'd hoped...

STOP saying that if someone is labeled being straight that they are gay... LOL! i think its hayq who is using another name... LOL! he has another personality... :p

[CatWoman]

This is too funny! :laugh: :laugh:

http://web.weeklyworldnews.com/images/wwn/208386/48557.jpg
NEW LESBIAN BIBLE BOOTS MEN OUT OF GOOD BOOK

By MARK MILLER

In an occurrence bound to outrage the Religious Right, a San Francisco publisher is about to release the world's first lesbian version of the Bible!

Out of the Closet Publishers has The Lesbian Bible scheduled for a February 15 release date.

"The one tiny difference, barely noticeable, between ours and the regular Bible," explains publisher Wanda Carp, "is that there are absolutely no men in The Lesbian Bible." Among the slightly altered Biblical tales will be those of Adamina and Eve, Noelle's Arc, Danielle in the Lion's Den, Jane and Her Coat of Many Colors, Mona Receiving the Ten Commandments and Jonelle Inside the Belly of the Whale.

Instead of Jesus, The Lesbian Bible features Justine, the daughter of God, who tells her twelve hot female disciples, "Let she who is without sin leave now, for it is far more fun to be around sinners. Now remove your clothing and let me closely inspect the divine images in which God made you." What follows is the first appearance of an X-rated jacuzzi scene in any Bible.

Carp reveals that her publishing company is also at work on lesbian versions of the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Dr. Seuss books.

Published on: 12/13/2004

Weekly World News (http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/features/religion/61516)

[Anonymouse]

As much as I like lipstick lesbian porn, I've always preferred regular hardcore porn. I thought it was relevant to this thread.

[EYYBABA23]

Now that we FINALLY got to the female part of being gay, can someone brighten up my dark vision?


I've noticed alot of lesbianism or bi-sexual action going around with girls lately. Not only Armenian girls, but in every race. And I'm in L.A., so there are like people from all around the world here. Or is it just an L.A. thing? Or have men (our generation, and I'm 25) become such **** (male body organ) that women prefer a female friend? Or is it that men can't satisfy women anymore, or even worse, women's expectations have gone up?

These are not my opinions, just questions that came up to my mind!

Oh by the way, %30 was my result...Told me to loosen up a little. So, I'm gonna go stretch a little and play some sports! :D :D :D

[Anonymouse]

Now that we FINALLY got to the female part of being gay, can someone brighten up my dark vision?


I've noticed alot of lesbianism or bi-sexual action going around with girls lately. Not only Armenian girls, but in every race. And I'm in L.A., so there are like people from all around the world here. Or is it just an L.A. thing? Or have men (our generation, and I'm 25) become such **** (male body organ) that women prefer a female friend? Or is it that men can't satisfy women anymore, or even worse, women's expectations have gone up?

These are not my opinions, just questions that came up to my mind!

Oh by the way, %30 was my result...Told me to loosen up a little. So, I'm gonna go stretch a little and play some sports! :D :D :D


Why are you so curious about Armenian lesbians? Do you have a sick sexual perverted fantasy? Huh? You don't have to lie you know. I am a perfectly tolerant heterosexual male.

As to the cause, I do not know, and given my imaginary credentials, I think it's a combination of watching all those satanic shows on television, and playing with their organs too much. When mom and dad say they want you to be musicians, they don't mean playing with YOUR orgnas, or instruments, they mean with other ones.

[omniscient]

ZAREH?????????// OMG!!!! Yea, he's pretty.

Yeah Zareh has been to my house a few times, I've seen the way he looks at me :naughty: . He's been doing my moms hair for years.

[hyebruin]

Yeah Zareh has been to my house a few times, I've seen the way he looks at me :naughty: . He's been doing my moms hair for years.


are you gay? the rainbow colors and your quote there...it's ok dear, you can come out to us... :wave:
ahhh yes, zareh....i've seen him on tv a couple of times...wow! some of those incoming calls! some armos are truely ignorant beasts! and i am confident that it is a very small minority amongst us! ---at least i hope so!---

i mean i hate that 'in your face' expressions of sexuality regardless of orientation, but whatever happened to live and let live? i don't agree with a lot of stuff around me, but i don't get into those people's faces and preach to them! what IS wrong with some of us?---

[omniscient]

are you gay? the rainbow colors and your quote there---

That was a bad time to put my avatar up and post my quote wasn't it :laugh:

[Mags]

I've seen Zareh carry a friggin purse....hahahaha

oh and he had a pretty hot b/f at one point...he won't tell me what happened between them though :/

[ArmenianKid]

Im sorry but they are absolutely disgusting, i cant stand being anywhere near them especially when they are so keen on showing their affection for each other, yes some of them are pretty good people personally but i just dont see how you can view the things they do as anything other than disgusting and repulsive.


some one is a homophob. im not gay myself but i have many bi-sexual friends guys and girls and i have no problem with them. they are good friends.i mean i dont like it if one hits on me lol but that hasnt happen, but its thier way of life.

[ArmoBarbi]

When I was younger I was homophobic. I actually asked people if they thought I could be a lesbian. They all laughed and reassured me that I am not of course. It was difficult to face that question though. Its a very serious life changing thing.

With age and certain experiences I have become more secure, and this is no longer a fear for me. I kind of wanna laugh when I see who guys kissing or something. It just looks so strange, almost like they are acting. I do my best to not hurt anyones feelings. I have just come to decide that it's not my place to judge these people. As long as they stay away from me and my family (husband and children), I don't care what their way of life is. As my new favorite saying goes, "Live and let live".

I can see how being Armenian and gay would be even worse than gay in most main stream American families. I wish that this simply didnt exist. Then again - I wish a lot of things didnt exist.

[winoman]

Very well said ArmoBarbi!

[magdalinka]

Why is HyeJynx getting that horny? We are not even in spring...

:confused:
may be he broke up with his girlfriend :crying:

[nunechka]

armobarbi you said "As long as they stay away from me and my family (husband and children)" my question to you is, since when have gay men and women ever came into your life and tried to convert you?

my best friend is a gay man... i just dont see him ever even trying to convince anyone that they are gay :confused: i am a bid puzzled at that statement... maybe you didnt mean that exaclty, but i am a supporter of gay acceptance in society, and even my gay armenian friend...

i also think "Live and let live" but that also means that in our society we should protect those that cant protect themselves and live their regular life... i want us to live our lives, but we cant when there are so many people that need the help to live...

i hope that wasnt too confusing

[winoman]

I also was a bit hesitant with her statement "as long as they stay away..." etc - but I chose to give her the benefit of the doubt and interpret it as "live and let live". Perhaps she can clarify for us if she wishes.

[ArmoBarbi]

armobarbi you said "As long as they stay away from me and my family (husband and children)" my question to you is, since when have gay men and women ever came into your life and tried to convert you?

my best friend is a gay man... i just dont see him ever even trying to convince anyone that they are gay :confused: i am a bid puzzled at that statement... maybe you didnt mean that exaclty, but i am a supporter of gay acceptance in society, and even my gay armenian friend...

i also think "Live and let live" but that also means that in our society we should protect those that cant protect themselves and live their regular life... i want us to live our lives, but we cant when there are so many people that need the help to live...

i hope that wasnt too confusing

1) It has nothing to do with converting anyone. I dont believe in that anyway. I dont like to see such relationships, and dont want my children to have to deal with the issue while they are young.

2) "Live and let live" doesnt suggest helping or protecting anyone. I support letting people live as they wish as long as they are not bothering anyone else, thats all.

3) Although I dislike the phenomenon, I really feel for these people, and in no way wish to make things worse for them. I have been attacked for certain things that were beyond my control and even choices Ive made, I know exactly how bad it is to attack people this way.

Why would your post be confusing?

[ArmoBarbi]

I also was a bit hesitant with her statement "as long as they stay away..." etc - but I chose to give her the benefit of the doubt and interpret it as "live and let live". Perhaps she can clarify for us if she wishes.

I hope the above post will suffice :wave:

[CatWoman]

1) It has nothing to do with converting anyone. I dont believe in that anyway. I dont like to see such relationships, and dont want my children to have to deal with the issue while they are young.
I knew this is what she meant! like "I want nothing to do with them" kinda attitude! hehe barbi you're cute!!! :p


I don't have a problem with gays at all, I used to find it offending that they don't find us girls hot, but got over it lol... but I prefer those who look like real men than dude looks like a lady kinda guys! Actually two hot good looking guys togethre is HOT! haha BUT when they dress/act girlier than ME, it's just sick! Same with girls, feminine and lesbian/bi, no problem, HOT as well :naughty: ... But those tomboy and butch lesbos are just tooo sick.

[winoman]

I hope the above post will suffice :wave:


yes quite well - Bravo!

I have to say - I don't always agree with everyones views or positions (not a new phenomon for me...lol) - but I really have come to respect many of the views and the underlying intellignece and insite of many (though admitedly not all..) of the younger people who contribute in this forum and have been for the last few years (when i started to occasionally visit and follow some threads - before joining more recently)...I've been really impressed by the thoughtfulness and maturity of many of the posters here - its been a really delightful and suprising eye opener for me - as an admitteldy older person who - like others - perhaps has some misgivings about the current state of our youth...anyway - for what its worth...

[winoman]

I knew this is what she meant! like "I want nothing to do with them" kinda attitude! hehe barbi you're cute!!! :p


I don't have a problem with gays at all, I used to find it offending that they don't find us girls hot, but got over it lol... but I prefer those who look like real men than dude looks like a lady kinda guys! Actually two hot good looking guys togethre is HOT! haha BUT when they dress/act girlier than ME, it's just sick! Same with girls, feminine and lesbian/bi, no problem, HOT as well :naughty: ... But those tomboy and butch lesbos are just tooo sick.

Well to each their own I guess. I've alwasy known gay individuals begining when I was in High School - and never had anything personally against them (was freindswith one {that I still see occasionally as he has stayed in tough with other friends of mine] and have had gay friends since - male and female) - but my general attitude towards gays has certainly evolved over time to be much more accepting then I ever was when I was young.

Changing the subject slightly - I've only ever seen part of one episode of the "L" word (Showtime series focusing on Lesbians) - but have to admit - some of the gals (and situations) etc - got me worked up a bit..(maybe its just because they are sexy women - but I don't know - I had a Bi g/f once and always found her attraction to other women to be most hot...)

[nunechka]

the L word is a "made for men" lesbian series... its about these fake, extra hot women making love...

i liked it... but i dont think its reality based, but i guess not many things on the TV are reality based, not even the reality shows...

[Che_Ka]

I'm also glad to see the tide has turned in this thread toward a more positive view of gays and lesbians. I was raised in the typical homophobic Armenian family. It sure messes with your head when you grow up and you realize you like boys. :( lol

[CatWoman]

I'm also glad to see the tide has turned in this thread toward a more positive view of gays and lesbians. I was raised in the typical homophobic Armenian family. It sure messes with your head when you grow up and you realize you like boys. :( lol

Ok hold on, you're a guy right? :rolleyes:

As for the L word, can't comment. We don't get HBO or showtime or whatever channel it is on... bummer!!
Has anyone seen 'Gia'?

[ArmenianKid]

i have no problem with gsy people. i have repect for all humans.

[K0nArtist]

I cant stand being next to a gay guy. There are two in my class i just want to xxxx them up real bad.

[hyebruin]

I cant stand being next to a gay guy. There are two in my class i just want to xxxx them up real bad.

you do? :eek:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: just kidding :p

[K0nArtist]

LOL

damn...it sounds sick if your a sick person :-/ :rolleyes:

I meant to say i would like to beat them up. Get rid of them. :mad:

[ArmenianKid]

why are u so sickend by them?

[Siamanto]

As long as the male homosexuals outnumber the female ones, why should I complain? :)

I can see many reasons why a woman may welcome the company of gay man in her life. The situation is a bit different for a man; because, an eventual sexual attraction may complicate the friendship. I'm sure that women understand what I mean!

It's hard to tell whether a sexual preference is biologically determined or socially acquired; but, how would that change their rights or realities?

The Mind is an "adaptive substance" and, in time, integrates and "accepts" foreign ideas, just like the Immune System. A year ago - during the "gay marriage" controversy - I was told of a painting that shows a young boy marrying a dog. Uncomfortable with the boy's choice, his parents - a gay couple - are wondering: "What went wrong?"

[ArmenianKid]

i have a gay friend and i dont find that as a problem becuase he knows i dont swing tht way lol.

[ArmoBarbi]

I don't think that it's "a problem". It just can be difficult for them to live their lives. Although, I myself am against them raising children. Sorry, a child needs a father and a mother - not two of the same. May I add, it is things like this that may make their lives more difficult. lol

[Che_Ka]

Armobarbi: I'm curious to know what you meant by your last sentence. :)

[ArmoBarbi]

I was laughing at myself for feeling badly about their difficult life, and saying something against them at the same time. lol

[Che_Ka]

LOL ok, that's what I thought - just making sure! :)

[ArmoBarbi]

Yeah, don't worry, I'm not evil. Although I see how you would think otherwise from that... lol

[Siamanto]

i have a gay friend and i dont find that as a problem becuase he knows i dont swing tht way lol.
ArmenianKid,
Of course, as long as there's no sexual attraction. I've seen it happen more than once!
I've also seen cases where unilateral sexual attraction created complications.
Also, complications do not mean impossibility, nor the existence of bad feelings.

[lbc213hc]

Hello:

My name is Haig Hovanessian. I am an 18 year old Armenian gay man. This life decision is NOT one that I willfully chose. Who in their right mind would want to pick a difficult life like this?

I grew up in a normal Armenian family. My one brother and one sister married under normal Armenian tradition, and I grew up with a loving and supportive family.

To clear things up:
- I am not after you straight men. That's the dumbest thing to assume. Do you think all women want you too?
- Is it fair for gays to say that HETEROS are all disguisting? No, of course not. So it's not fair to do the same about gays. MOST gays are NOT like the ones you see on your TV. I am not, by any means, some weak limp wristed stereotype.
- Hating all who are gay is nothing short of INTOLERABLE. I believe people like that should not be allowed to breed. More hate just brings on more hate. Maybe all that hatred comes from a deeper feeling of self-inadequacy or a lack or self love. Or maybe it's the result of a weak maniputable mind that follows the hatred taught to them rather than questioning the validity of such feelings.
- Gays have gay pride not because they want to rub it in your face. it's because they've been kept hidden and made to feel ashamed for something that's been beyond their control. Example: We're all Armenians. That is beyond our control. We, as a culture, have so much pride because what we were was taken away from us. We did not tolerate anyone else telling us we were inadequate because of something that we had no control over.

[ArmoBarbi]

Hey, Haig, (Im surprised at how young you are) Im glad that you have a supportive family. My family has issues with some of my opinions/choices...although its not really the same as yours and I cant really complain... I agree with you, I think its absurd to think that people choose to be homosexual. I think that its something one is born with, and I believe that it will be proven with our technology eventually.

P.S. About straight men - they DO think that all women want them too! lol

[winoman]

I don't think that it's "a problem". It just can be difficult for them to live their lives. Although, I myself am against them raising children. Sorry, a child needs a father and a mother - not two of the same. May I add, it is things like this that may make their lives more difficult. lol

Many kids these days have only one parent...or are raised by their grandparents...or are raised (and I use the term loosely) by people who are unfit parents in a variety of ways....perhaps two loving parents are ideal - but how often to we ever achieve the ideal - and who is to say that two parents - who happen to be of the same sex - but who are loving and attentive - and almost by definition well off financially and stable and good citizens and so on and so forth - remember rules for adoption much stricter then two folks just banging and viola! kid ....so think about it - gay parents (many/most who have to go through many hoops and meet many strict criteria - are likely - on average - better parents then the typical hetero parent. I don't base this on any study or such - but I believe that if studied it would be likley to be found true. So if such were true - then would you advocate gay parentage over hetero? I mean if it is proven that there is a better environment for the child etc? Obviously the question is a bit facetious - but don't just jump to conclusions based on your "feelings" - what if you are very wrong - eh? etc

[winoman]

Haig - great post. Good luck to you. I imagine its not easy. Like being a xxx - a certain population just hates you right off the bat. Think about it folks. Be tolerant/understanding...you would want the same if it were you....

[CatWoman]

I am an 18 year old Armenian gay man.

Isn't 18 a little too early to be so certain about your sexual orientation? You go through so many phases in your life, so don't label yourself until you're old enough, cause I think that will keep you from exploring what else is out there and giving it a try (hint hint girls :p )...

Or maybe I'm just way off... :o

[ArmoBarbi]

Many kids these days have only one parent...or are raised by their grandparents...or are raised (and I use the term loosely) by people who are unfit parents in a variety of ways....perhaps two loving parents are ideal - but how often to we ever achieve the ideal - and who is to say that two parents - who happen to be of the same sex - but who are loving and attentive - and almost by definition well off financially and stable and good citizens and so on and so forth - remember rules for adoption much stricter then two folks just banging and viola! kid ....so think about it - gay parents (many/most who have to go through many hoops and meet many strict criteria - are likely - on average - better parents then the typical hetero parent. I don't base this on any study or such - but I believe that if studied it would be likley to be found true. So if such were true - then would you advocate gay parentage over hetero? I mean if it is proven that there is a better environment for the child etc? Obviously the question is a bit facetious - but don't just jump to conclusions based on your "feelings" - what if you are very wrong - eh? etc

This is a pointless post. You know nothing about how I was raised, to assume why I feel the way I feel. I told you how I feel about preeching. Do you think that you told me something I didnt think of on my own?

I never said that bad straight parents are better than good gay parents. I just dont think its the ideal situation. A child SHOULD have a good masculine and feminine role model and authority figure. It doesnt mean that the child will have issues otherwise, (I am a very healthy and productive member of society, and will have my own healthy family) but I have every right to dislike such conditions.

[winoman]

ArmoBarbi - you can dislike all you want - and you can make spurious claims all you want - but you have no right to deny others - be they interacial or same sex the right to have a family. To claim that a "child needs a father and a mother" as you have done - is clearly an inaccurate statement. It is a statement of (seemingly) your ideal - and while many may agree with it - it has been proven that children can be raised in different manner under different circumstances and turn out OK. Perhaps you - or others - were raised in a comune and had (essentially) 5-10 mothers and fathers - well - I may think that is better then just one - but I would not presume to state that a child "needs" such as you have said. You are stating your personal preferences as fact - and the next step when one takes this approach is that they begin denying other's freedoms based on your particualr beliefs. You made the specific contention that a "child needs a father and a mother" - I countered that as a given in my post - that is all. I made no presumptions regadring your upbringing - I was only commenting on the statement you made. I disagree that it is a truism. And who is to say that two guys or two gals together will not parent with a masculine and feminine approach - eh? think about it. And also think of the many single parents who are doing incredible jobs raising their children - give them some credit as well.

[ArmoBarbi]

I am so annoyed with you right now. You are the one who accused me and put words in my mouth. Dont ever lecture me.

When Michigan had to vote on putting law against gay marriage in the const (not that it changed anything) I voted "NO". Where in the world did you get the stupid idea that I wish to deny anyone anything? Please get your facts straight before you accuse people. Its really rude.

I was raised by a working single mother, fyi. I repeat - dont ever lecture me.

[hyebruin]

Isn't 18 a little too early to be so certain about your sexual orientation? You go through so many phases in your life, so don't label yourself until you're old enough, cause I think that will keep you from exploring what else is out there and giving it a try (hint hint girls :p )...

Or maybe I'm just way off... :o

hmmm, i'm surprised you said that! wow! we liked boys when we were younger, certainly younger than 18; males reach their sexual peak at around 19, so if he 'thinks' he's gay at 18, we can be pretty sure he most likely is gay ;) and our wishing that he weren't is not going to change things :laugh:

as long as he doesn't start dating girls to see if he can BECOME straight, no harm done :rolleyes:

[Gunner14]

What exactly is dicreet? I've never had anyone try to impose their ideology. They just want to be treated like everyone else. Is that imposing ideology? You don't have to agree with their lifestyles, but they can do what they want.
When heterosexual couples are all over each other in public, that isn't disgusting?
I don't have a problem with a gay couple out holding hands or sharing the occasional peck or kiss.


Heterosexual or homo, public affection is harmful to little kids. That's why out of courtesy, people gay or straight should respect their surrounding and the little kids (10 -12 years old) near by. People frenching each other and groping each other ugh!.. That’s why the term "get a room was coined.” All that does is impede the innocent childhoods and rush them to the contemptible realities of life.

*Side note... I don't understand how a person can be gay. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be arrogant or prejudice, it just doesn't make sense to me. It just appears to be a perversion that has captivated many weak human beings. IMHO.

[Che_Ka]

Gunner: I appreciate your frankness and honesty. I didn't understand being gay when I was first coming to terms with it. It seemed unnatural, and just plain wrong. I spent many nights crying myself to sleep, literally; many hours were spent pondering 'why me?'... I still don't understand it, but I accept it. I honestly believe it was the way God intended it to be. But I want to point out that just because you don't understand homosexuality doesn't mean it's a characteristic of weak people...

Catwoman: Ditto what hyebruin said! :) I first started realizing my gayness (lol) just around the time of puberty -- the 8th grade. I went through several phases; first, absolute denial, then convincing myself I was merely bisexual, and then to acceptance that I am gay. I was a senior in high school by the time I was OK with it.

Haig: Hey there! That was very brave of you! I'm 22, and I have a bit of advice for you! :) Don't let yourself become estranged from the Armenian community or your Armenian identity. Homosexuality and Armenianness can coexist within the same person, and just because our ethnic community may be less than accepting and accomodating at times...stick with it. It's yours.

[hyebruin]

Heterosexual or homo, public affection is harmful to little kids. That's why out of courtesy, people gay or straight should respect their surrounding and the little kids (10 -12 years old) near by...

yes, i do agree with that to a certain extent, but it goes both ways! people seeing couples hugging and kissing should not flock around them with their 1/2 a dozen bunch of kids :rolleyes: soooo annoying! that kills the mood right there! seeing all those little kiddies running around you and looking and talking loud...like wtf just happened? you had a little space to yourself, then it got invaded by little rugrats....not that i don't like rugrats :D LOL

[Gunner14]

Does anyone have any statistics of gay populations in different countries. This would be very interesting. I would like to see some ratios... really think it would clear things up for a lot of people even people who think they are gay.

[ArmenianKid]

well having a gay man post on the boards deffinitly shut up the homophobs, thanks for that.

[ArmoBarbi]

well having a gay man post on the boards deffinitly shut up the homophobs, thanks for that.

How nice

I am against PDA if its too sexual, just hugging or holding hands or a peck is not harmful. Making out and touching each other however,.....in high school I had a couple make out in front of my locker every day (sophomore year) it was so annoying. :evil:

[lbc213hc]

Isn't 18 a little too early to be so certain about your sexual orientation? You go through so many phases in your life, so don't label yourself until you're old enough, cause I think that will keep you from exploring what else is out there and giving it a try (hint hint girls :p )...

Or maybe I'm just way off... :o


Hello. Thanks for the response. Is homosexuality a phase? No. I've known since I was a little child. The most confusing part was when I was 12 and I knew that I was supposed to be attracted by girls, but I wasnt. I was attracted by other males. I struggled with that for a few years. I've even dated girls thinking it will make my family happy and maybe help me, as you suggested, snap out of it. HA HA! I was wrong! It made me feel worse about myself. Even just two years ago, my junior year at high school, I pretended to like a girl. The whole things justs makes you feel worse. Pretending, and faking, and lying - just to please a world where what you are is "disguisting."

[CatWoman]

Hello. Thanks for the response. Is homosexuality a phase? No. I've known since I was a little child. The most confusing part was when I was 12 and I knew that I was supposed to be attracted by girls, but I wasnt. I was attracted by other males. I struggled with that for a few years. I've even dated girls thinking it will make my family happy and maybe help me, as you suggested, snap out of it. HA HA! I was wrong! It made me feel worse about myself. Even just two years ago, my junior year at high school, I pretended to like a girl. The whole things justs makes you feel worse. Pretending, and faking, and lying - just to please a world where what you are is "disguisting."

Sweety, you're NOT disgusting and screw the world, who's perfect anyway?... I know, I guess I wasn't thinking when I made that post, what you and Che Ka said totally makes sense!

BTW are you hot? How about you Che Ka? Gay men are hot! :evil: :rolleyes: :D ;) (<---wino wannabe? lol)

[Che_Ka]

oh you're making me blush now... ;)

[ArmoBarbi]

Hello. Thanks for the response. Is homosexuality a phase? No. I've known since I was a little child. The most confusing part was when I was 12 and I knew that I was supposed to be attracted by girls, but I wasnt. I was attracted by other males. I struggled with that for a few years. I've even dated girls thinking it will make my family happy and maybe help me, as you suggested, snap out of it. HA HA! I was wrong! It made me feel worse about myself. Even just two years ago, my junior year at high school, I pretended to like a girl. The whole things justs makes you feel worse. Pretending, and faking, and lying - just to please a world where what you are is "disguisting."

I like how you responded to what Arina said, but all my words of support went ignored. lol

[hyebruin]

Hello. Thanks for the response. Is homosexuality a phase? No. I've known since I was a little child. The most confusing part was when I was 12 and I knew that I was supposed to be attracted by girls, but I wasnt. I was attracted by other males. I struggled with that for a few years. I've even dated girls thinking it will make my family happy and maybe help me, as you suggested, snap out of it. HA HA! I was wrong! It made me feel worse about myself. Even just two years ago, my junior year at high school, I pretended to like a girl. The whole things justs makes you feel worse. Pretending, and faking, and lying - just to please a world where what you are is "disguisting."

i'm just curious what you think of those who marry and have kids just to try and 'fit in' societal expectations and make the parents/family happy; what do you think is the most likely outcome then? living a hetero- life but being deeply depressed and restless on the inside by their homo- ideations?

[lbc213hc]

i'm just curious what you think of those who marry and have kids just to try and 'fit in' societal expectations and make the parents/family happy; what do you think is the most likely outcome then? living a hetero- life but being deeply depressed and restless on the inside by their homo- ideations?

Really, I dont know who is to blame? Do we blame the weak gays who are afraid of confronting society? or do we blame our society in making a gay mans life hell?

You know, part of the reason why gays are so promiscuous is because the straight world has made them to be. Gays are not allowed to go to prom, gays are not viewed as people that can have long term relationships and marry, gays are not viewed as positive role models for children. The straight world keeps them down. It's sad. How's a young gay person like me supposed to feel supported in this world - especially being an armenian. We dont have social means to a positive existence. Gays remain to be considered a 'dirty' subculture because the straight world keeps pushing that image. And ignorance spreads like wildwife. Like I said before, some minds are so weak that they build aggression handed down from them without realizing why. They've just been conditioned to hate.

[spiral]

Being gay and Armenian...tough tough..

Che-Ka and Ibc, how did family react when they found out, im curious?

[Che_Ka]

spiral: They don't know yet. lol :( They're actually dealing with a sibling of mine who just came out; they're having a difficult time, but much better than I anticipated that they'd react. I actually had no clue my sister was gay too -- a shocker to me! She never told me, I never told her. Although I think she knows about me. Ohh dear, it's a mess!!

I always thought being gay was part-genetic, part-environmental. But after I found out about my sister, I'm becoming a supporter of the gene theory.

[lbc213hc]

hmmm

when i first hinted to it, my mother quickly said 'BE QUIET! Stop talking nonsense.' So she didnt take well to it. so I backed off. I thought that she would be supportive, but I suddenly second guessed what I was doing.

All hell broke lose when I couldnt take it anymore, and I told them. My father started crying. My brother started crying. My mom and my sister were hitting me. It was really bad for a long time, but things have changed now. They still support me. But its different. I cannot take my partner to any family function or if I have a friend they automatically assume he's a lover. They still try to introduce me to a girl. They dont really talk too much about it, especially my father. But they always remind me that they love me.

[hyebruin]

Really, I dont know who is to blame? Do we blame the weak gays who are afraid of confronting society? or do we blame our society in making a gay mans life hell?

You know, part of the reason why gays are so promiscuous is because the straight world has made them to be. Gays are not allowed to go to prom, gays are not viewed as people that can have long term relationships and marry, gays are not viewed as positive role models for children. The straight world keeps them down. It's sad. How's a young gay person like me supposed to feel supported in this world - especially being an armenian. We dont have social means to a positive existence. Gays remain to be considered a 'dirty' subculture because the straight world keeps pushing that image. And ignorance spreads like wildwife. Like I said before, some minds are so weak that they build aggression handed down from them without realizing why. They've just been conditioned to hate.

haha, you didn't really answer my question, but that's ok ;)

[Anonymouse]

What a gay thread.

[LadySilver]

What about lesbians or bisexuals? Do you guys think they are "wrong" also or is that alright as some people say?

[Anonymouse]

What about lesbians or bisexuals? Do you guys think they are "wrong" also or is that alright as some people say?

That all depends on if you use unleaded fuel.

[Siamanto]

What about lesbians or bisexuals? Do you guys think they are "wrong" also or is that alright as some people say?
That all depends on if you use unleaded fuel.
Anonymouse,
I'll have to disagree: that is at best a half-truth!
I have a lesbian friend who uses unleaded fuel and I still think that she's wrong: she should be sleeping with me instead of her lesbian friend! :)

But, that may be true of bisexuals!

[Anonymouse]

Anonymouse,
I'll have to disagree: that is at best a half-truth!
I have a lesbian friend who uses unleaded fuel and I still think that she's wrong: she should be sleeping with me instead of her lesbian friend! :)

But, that may be true of bisexuals!

You should tell her to use unleaded plus then.

[hyebruin]

Anonymouse,
I'll have to disagree: that is at best a half-truth!
I have a lesbian friend who uses unleaded fuel and I still think that she's wrong: she should be sleeping with me instead of her lesbian friend! :)

But, that may be true of bisexuals!

HAHA!!!! you ARE a guy! :laugh: :laugh: :D

[hyebruin]

What about lesbians or bisexuals? Do you guys think they are "wrong" also or is that alright as some people say?

is that your lover in the picture?...the pic and the comment appeared at the same time!??? just wondering :)

[LadySilver]

No she's my best friend but she's bisexual.

[CatWoman]

spiral: They don't know yet. lol :( They're actually dealing with a sibling of mine who just came out; they're having a difficult time, but much better than I anticipated that they'd react. I actually had no clue my sister was gay too -- a shocker to me! She never told me, I never told her. Although I think she knows about me. Ohh dear, it's a mess!!

I always thought being gay was part-genetic, part-environmental. But after I found out about my sister, I'm becoming a supporter of the gene theory.



Dude, that sounds totally like my friend's family.... All this time we were sure her bother was gay, he's always been feminine and stuff, and his best friend is this metrosexual (ex-model lol) gay guy, so yeah, he IS gay... and just recently his sister gave us the sock of a lifetime when she told us she's a lesbian :eek: I sorta feel bad for their parents, her brother isn't really out but she tried telling her mom about it and her mom went crazy and started crying... She made an appointment for HER MOM lol to see a psychologist!! So yeah, it's a mess... a big mess!! Her mom still tries to convince her that she likes boys cause she's always so happy when she's dating one lol... But seriously, I feel horrible for their parents. So I guess your family isn't the only Armenian family going through this, hehe!

[sad_eyes]

What about lesbians or bisexuals? Do you guys think they are "wrong" also or is that alright as some people say?

I was raised in a typical pentecostal christian home where we were to believe that being so is evil and wrong. However, now that I have grown and gained a concious and mind of my own, I see otherwise. I will not deny in my heart I disagree with it, yes, but I do not view people who are gay, lesbians, bisexuals as evil and should be waiped off the earths surface, no. My own sister is bisexual. People have the right to live as they choose, and everyone is aware of the concinquences as well as the high moments of how they choose to live their lives. If an individual is gay and proud, then so be it. No one has the right to tell others how they should live their lives.

[ArmoBarbi]

I'm sorry to hear about what you went through with your family or may have to go through in the future....Here is some comic relief for you suffering (and not to suffering) souls:

When I was a teenager, I did quite a bit of "soul searching". I asked myself once if I could be a lesbian (or bi), and didnt know how to be sure, so I asked everyone else that was close to me at the time - including my mother! lol (I was like 14)

I found out that people come out in like their 30s, and I thought...wow it must be hard to tell someitmes. hahahahaha

My friends laughed at me, and my mom just said, "You're not". I was like, "How can you be sure???" She said, "Cause if you were I would have noticed already."

Good to know your mom watches out for that when youre 14, isnt it? lol Armenian parents...

[Siamanto]

HAHA!!!! you ARE a guy! :laugh: :laugh: :D


No! I'm a heterosexual female! My lesbian friend sleeps exclusively with others lesbians. Apparently, she's ultra sensitive to the male odor that sticks to skin of heterosexual females. For some reason, she's obsessed with it!

PS. Didn't I already tell you that I am a male chauvinist? :)

[Che_Ka]

Catwoman: Amaaan! It's nice to know I'm not alone. Believe me, my concern for my parents is the sole reason I'm not out!

Armobarbi: I think that was partly directed toward me - so thanks! :) I try not to think about it. It's easier that way, eh? lol

Siamanto: Yes hima shpoter em. Ek es te arou? (omg i can't believe i just remembered those words...) :)

[hyebruin]

No! I'm a heterosexual female! My lesbian friend sleeps exclusively with others lesbians. Apparently, she's ultra sensitive to the male odor that sticks to skin of heterosexual females. For some reason, she's obsessed with it!

PS. Didn't I already tell you that I am a male chauvinist? :)


at the risk of being redundant! :confused: you ARE a guy! :laugh: :p :)

[Siamanto]

Siamanto: Yes hima shpoter em. Ek es te arou? (omg i can't believe i just remembered those words...) :)

Che_Ka,
Yes al shvaradz em! But, do I really have the choice? The choice has been already made for me!
I have to say "male;" otherwise, I'm afraid that hyebruin may castrate me! :)

[Che_Ka]

But if it were otherwise, you'd have no reason to fear castration. A-ha! ...or something...

[Siamanto]

But if it were otherwise, you'd have no reason to fear castration. A-ha! ...or something...
Che_Ka,
I'm a male. I was just playing with hyebruin...and words! :)

[hyebruin]

Che_Ka,
In case it is still unclear, I'm a male. I was just playing with hyebruin...and words!

i knew it alllllllll along! haha :rolleyes:
:wave: :p the masculine aura was CLEARLY there (haha, you guys remember that whole "CLEARLY" thing? :laugh: :laugh: )


:o

[bell-the-cat]

...and just recently his sister gave us the sock of a lifetime...

Are those the socks that are not just for Christmas? :D

[Siamanto]

:wave: :p the masculine aura was CLEARLY there (haha, you guys remember that whole "CLEARLY" thing? :laugh: :laugh: )


:o

"The masculine aura was CLEARLY there?" :rolleyes:
I just checked the gender of my brain on the site mentioned in the thread What gender is your brain? (http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=5307)

and the results do not seem to agree with your assessment:

Your Brain is 73.47% Female, 13.53% Male

Can we conclude that having an aura does not mean having a brain? :)

Disclaimer: I can't be held responsible for any erroneous or inaccurate results.

[Che_Ka]

Walla yes al gin em yegher...lol

Your Brain is 73.33% Female, 26.67% Male

Although, Siamanto, I do wonder what the remaining 13% of your brain is? lol

[CatWoman]

...and just recently his sister gave us the sock of a lifetime...



Are those the socks that are not just for Christmas?

oops, I meant shock!!!!
At least I didn't say suck... now THAT would have been something! :D :p

[Siamanto]

Although, Siamanto, I do wonder what the remaining 13% of your brain is? lol

Che_Ka,
It was a stratagem to trap hyebruin; but, unfortunately, you fell into it! :) Sorry!
Well, I can throw away the reply I had for her! :)

[lbc213hc]

ha ha at the male female questionairre

i got 80 male 20 female

[Baron Dants]

After Sad_eyes's post, this is another one that prompted me to create a new account just to reply to it.

Che_Ka, I never would've thought you're gay. But then again, it's not like I was thinking "Che Ka is straight" all the time. My point is, who cares? :) I don't see why people make a fuss about it, or decide to talk about how "natural" being gay is, or is not, as if we all know what IS or ISN'T natural in the first place.

Here's an idea for you guys to kill each other about: I think that Armenian gays should be the ones adopting all those Armenian orphans that are still looking for parents. I mean, I'd rather see an Armenian linguist like Che_Ka raising Armenian kids than some WASPy family in Arizona.

[Che_Ka]

Thanks Dants. You honestly just brightened an otherwise depressing day for me. :) I appreciate your comments. (I must admit though, my favorite part was 'Armenian linguist' lol)

I recently looked into the adoption laws of Armenia. For several months, I had been telling my friends that I want to adopt an orphan from Armenia in 10 years or so; it would be my single most important mission in life. So I thought I'd better look into the process now. Well, my dreams were shattered in an instant. While the Republic gives great deference to prospective adoptive parents who are "azkov hay" and live in or near Diaspora communities -- yay for me -- it also denies adoptions to single males. There that goes.

On another note, dzo toon oor bahvuder es?? I feel like I'm the only one holding down the gor-gor fort over here...

[Baron Dants]

Yes oor bahvder em? Indzi toors nedetsin! Ok ok, yes bahanchetsi vor indzi toors neden. Yergar parag badmootyoon...inch vor e..

Don't expect any openness from Armenia on this issue. Faaaaaaaaar from it. People get accused of being gay for wearing blue shirts (I definitely stood out with my bright red and orange t-shirts :laugh:, I tend to dress like a Canadian hiker in the summer) ! But eh, it's all part of a process. A long, rocky process. Until then, you can probably find some loophole against that law. :cool:

[Che_Ka]

Ka bedk e soorji kam or muh, as yergar parag badmootyoonuh badmeloot aritov.

Oh I know all about the anti-gay sentiment in Armenia. I just thought I could get around it by not...looking gay. lol But they won't let any single men adopt, so...I'm outta luck! Red and orange shirts?! Forget being gay, you're lucky they didn't think you were a woman! Black. All black. I wonder what they'll think about my hair (it's a spikey fauxhawk) when I visit this summer. eeek. lol

omg, go read my last post in the "what are you listening to? (armenian)" -- you're gonna be so happy for me. lol After you read that post, read the following:
She even uses "zis" in the song!!!!!!!!! And "hampouyr muh" instead of "mi hampouyr" and about 20 "guh" verbs!!!! lol Laluhs bidi kar...Asor namag krelik muh oonim...

[Baron Dants]

lol, toon iren nershnchetsir as yerke kreloo?

babam, kezi sbaselen sbaselen, soorjin choore yerats knats. Al amot e.



(I figured you might be interested in how we tend to repeat words (sbaselen sbaselen) lol!)

[Che_Ka]

Hisoon ankam tooruh zargi! Na lsetsir, na patsir. Zar choorin yeraloo tsaynuh shad partsr er.

=D

Yerani yes ullayi ir nershnchoomin aghpuiruh...payts, inkn arten kdadz er ayt yerkuh. Yegher Beiruten meguh iren hamar krer er yerkuh. Shoodov muh megnetsav Beirut, sirets yerkuh, yev ir tsaynov artsanakrets yerkuh (recorded the song). Ays poloruh kani mu amis arach badmadz er indzi yelegdragayin namagi michotsov. Yev veeeerchabes artuinkuh lsetsi!!! :) Isgabes aztvetsa...Mer mernelou parparuh gardzes meg verchin ankam ullalov gyank kdav Hayastantsii muh goghmeh. :)

ahhh, how i miss typing in westarm to you! lol

[Baron Dants]

vakh em eser...

Eh jans, kides vor aganchs kich me dgar e. Mart koné heratsayn me gné. Isgabes kef-s avretsir! Al yegoor al bargir hima.. Khighjs ge neré me?


As inch khentanalik yerk elaloo e vor aytchap aztver es? Boorj Hamoodtsineroon kriche aytchap zoratser e?

[Che_Ka]

Hoosam hankisd muh knatsar yereg kisher. lol

Ka haaaa, walla Boorj Hamoodtsineruh zarkatser en yegher!! Kides, yete guh papakis, ays khentanalik yerkuh grnam ghrgel kezi. Shaaaad bidi sires, vsdah em. ;)

[Baron Dants]

As oreren mege ghrgé, payts voch aysor.

Tbrotsis mech tseghasbanootyan masin khavakarter ge badrasdem. Zarmanali vor 100 hayen aveli enk, yev miayn yergoo hoki-i midken antsav aysbisi pan me badrasdel.

Akh as joghovoorte...sires? chsires? toon al ches kider..