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  • #41
    Originally posted by Baron Dants
    "The state has no business in the country's bedrooms" - Pierre Elliot Trudeau

    I really could not care less about people being gay. Obviously not my thing, and not very pleasant to see either, but people can do whatever they want. If they want to get married, go ahead! Doesn't affect me in any way. I agree that the flaunting of homosexuality gets annoying (and trust me....Montreal has a huge gay parade every year), but other than that, just let them be.

    But then again, I DO live in Canada, so we tend to think differently on this issue.
    plus...gay marriage is now legal in Canada

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    • #42
      how many men here like lesbian women??? or how many men here are MORE OKAY with lesbian women???

      sorry angelik i guess i didnt really understand what you were saying... anywho i never said its genetics or hereditary, or psychological... i said its proven that people are born with it, they dont choose it... just like how you are born thinking you are hetero...

      stop hating the gays and they wont have to flaunt it... let me ask you, do you flaut the fact that you are heterosexual??? do we have parades for that? NO! but any minority who is opressed, will eventually find a way to show off their pride for something that is natural...

      as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...

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      • #43
        Originally posted by nunechka
        as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...
        I'm sorry Nune...I dont mean to be rude..but I think your being a little silly by saying this. Yes I do agree God has created a million things for a million reasons, but God didnt creat homosexual so they can adobt children. God created lovely, caring, human beings to do such things.

        The question to why there are children without parents...well there are endless answers to that. But for the sake of making a statement...I do not believe that is one of reason there are homosexuals in this world.


        P.S ....yes it is apart of nature to reproduce. Now I am not the best at understanding the Bible complately...but God did say "be fruitful and multiply." If I am wrong please someone correct me!
        Last edited by XxgoeyxX; 12-09-2004, 10:22 PM.
        You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by nunechka
          how many men here like lesbian women??? or how many men here are MORE OKAY with lesbian women???

          sorry angelik i guess i didnt really understand what you were saying... anywho i never said its genetics or hereditary, or psychological... i said its proven that people are born with it, they dont choose it... just like how you are born thinking you are hetero...
          If you are born with it, it's automatically genetic/hereditary/bla bla bla. It's in your genes before the environment has had a chance to mold you. Ever heard of the NATURE part of Nature vs. Nurture?

          stop hating the gays and they wont have to flaunt it... let me ask you, do you flaut the fact that you are heterosexual??? do we have parades for that? NO! but any minority who is opressed, will eventually find a way to show off their pride for something that is natural...
          It's about as natural as me eating with my toes.

          as for responding to the people who are talking about reproduction... look my good citizens, if nature said that we must reproduce to continue our kind, WHY are there so many children that have no parents? WHY arent armenians having childern like popcorn??? its a cultural thing... and being GAY has nothing to do with that... actually i think that God has created GAYS to adobt and care for those children who biological parents have left them...
          Can you sound any more ridiculous? I think not.

          And what's your argument for bisexuals, eh? Did God also create them for some reason or another?

          Since when did being gay become synonymous with being caring and selfless?

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          • #45
            i was half joking gohar jan... i dont know why god does anything either... heck i dont know why fate is the way it is... we have this saying in armenian right? CHAKATAGIR!

            it is fate, it is written on your forehead when you are born... it is inevitable... so these people who are not harming anyone, they are concious adults who just happen to have this chakatagir...

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            • #46
              geeeeeze i didnt know there were such homophobs in here... settle down beavis no one is going to all of a sudden make you gay, if you are not gay no one can make you gay...

              flames are you gay??? do you think by having a gay neighbor you might turn gay??? do you think that if there is a gay pride parade you are going to see it and all of a sudden turn gay??? do you think that having gay people on tv is going to make you gay??? if you answered no to all of these questions then rest assure, no one will change the heteros... i know i am NOT gay, and i am confident, and thats why i accept others who are as confident that they are homos...

              here take this "for fun" test and see it for yourself...

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              • #47
                Originally posted by nunechka
                geeeeeze i didnt know there were such homophobs in here... settle down beavis no one is going to all of a sudden make you gay, if you are not gay no one can make you gay...

                flames are you gay??? do you think by having a gay neighbor you might turn gay??? do you think that if there is a gay pride parade you are going to see it and all of a sudden turn gay??? do you think that having gay people on tv is going to make you gay??? if you answered no to all of these questions then rest assure, no one will change the heteros... i know i am NOT gay, and i am confident, and thats why i accept others who are as confident that they are homos...

                here take this "for fun" test and see it for yourself...
                http://www.channel4.com/life/microsites/G/gayometer/
                YOU'VE GOT THE GAY VIRUS! GET AWAY FROM ME! AAAAAAAHH!!!!!!!

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Armenian
                  Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Humans are not born homosexual, they develop into one.

                  Homosexuality is a sexual developmental disorder and has nothing to do with heredity and/or genetics. Even bilologically, homosexuality is against the principal laws of nature. And please, I dont want to hear: "Well, male dogs hump other male dogs"... Dogs hump anything and everything - including firehydrants!

                  Is homosexuality a sin? Yes indeed. However, in the eyes of God, homosexuality, as a sin, is no more and no less severe than adultery, pedophilia and/or bestiality.

                  Is it disgusting? Yes very much so. Nevertheless, the disgusting aspect about homosexuality is only a sociological perception that a particular culture places upon the practice. Therefore, ancient Greeks looked upon the disorder as a higher form of sexual expression.

                  Is it curable? I don't know. However, I would dare to say that it is as curable as any other severe psychological disorder. Maybe physical torture and shock therapy might work. Just kidding.

                  Nevertheless, homosexuality needs to be recognized as a "psycho-sexual disorder" - not an alternative sexual lifestyle choice. That is where I have a problem with Homos. Not because they are Homos, but because they want to force their unnatural "disorder" to be accepted as a normal way of life.

                  What's next, Armenians for Necrophilia rights???
                  Something that is clearly been found to be due to a chemical imbalance in the hypothalmus of human beings can not be defined as a BEHAVIORAL disorder. Why can't you just live and let live? Why can't people seriously live their own lives and not make themselves feel like the better person by judging others? I can not believe that rather than furthering themselves and living their lives, people would choose to waste so much of what seems to be hatred for people who, for all you know, CAN'T help the way they are. I am not talking here about people who are bisexual and like to experiment with sex. I loathe these people just as I loathe sexually promiscuous heterosexuals. However, if a couple, gay or straight, choose to love eachother and be sexual with eachother as long as it's in PRIVATE, they can damn well do as they please. BEHAVIORAL DISORDER would be one that would give a man urges to sleep with an animal or a child or something dead, not show their love for another consenting adult human being.
                  The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function. -- F. Scott Fitzgerald

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                  • #49
                    Nunechka, some of your reasoning absolutely makes no sense at all. You think we have a dislike of homosexuals because we are afraid that we will become ones ourselves? That is the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
                    Last edited by ckBejug; 12-09-2004, 10:33 PM.

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                    • #50
                      gst then why are there so many people who hate homosexuals because they are homosexuals... i just cant connect why they are so hostile to them??? there is a phobia here, and we should just stop bashing on them and hating them...

                      its not like they like living in a society that doesnt accept them... its very difficult for them... men get married have children and then when they are like 40yrs old they just dont want to live the lie anymore, so they come out, and there are so many people who are totally hostile to them... and in a strange way, the ones who are not confident of their own sexuality are usually the ones who are "agaist" them...

                      my family is totally typical Armenian... my dad and my mom both think gay people are as natural as being heterosexual... my dad's explaination was that gays didnt come into existance in the 21th century, they have been around FOREVER, as long as people have existed and cultures have been formed... especially in Greek society... now there is no reason to say i dont agree or i do agree, its an acceptance thing and we just do that and we should move on... its not important that a woman or a man is gay, its important if they are good people... most gay people are responsible, hardworking, well to do, people who recycle, have cars, homes, and mostly they give to our society good things, like tasteful fashion, cleanliness, tv shows that are fun to watch, etc... i dont see how they threaten anyone in anyway... i am still going to marry a guy and have little armenian children, who will grow up and vacation in armenia in our home there...

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