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  • Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    Time for signing the Euro association is coming near. What do you guys think, will our government have the balls to sign it?
    One thing is clear, current situation cannot prolong for too long. EEU is dying or in coma (because of Russian sanctions and corruption), the economic situation in Armenia is becoming explosive.
    The oligarchic government can survive only by money that is injected from abroad. But today, it's either dry or going wrong way despite Karapetian's promises and PR.
    Գողին ու բոզին 40 օր ա։ It was abvious from the beginning that parasitic government of criminal figures elected by fraud cannot do any changes. It's like a cancer on the body promising to cure the pains, where it's impossible without taking the canser out (themselfs).
    It is abvious that Euroassosiation is in the interest of this government to prolong it's life.
    But could it put Armenia's security at risk?
    When Serjik flipped and signed EEU overnight , it was abvious that it had to do it under Russian pressure because we have a strong security connection with them and cannot put that connection under risk.
    But has anything changed now? I don't think so. If Russia did not want us to sign EU association then, it does not want it now too.
    So what has changed? Did Armenia's security requirements change or Serjik suddenly got balls?
    I am afraid that our government driven by financial needs (not for people, for god's sake, for themselfs) may even try signing EU association this November, disregarding their patron's wishes in Moscow.
    That can be very dangerous.
    But if Serjik is going to flip again in November and not sign, it is true as many observers have said, it will show to the whole world what a joke our government is.
    We will see...
    I hope they sign it. And I hope that the government starts treating people better.

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    • https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_con...EgHHWYws-71cJQ

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      • This discussion is about why Prime minister Karapetian's promises of billions of investments never happened. And will never happen.

        On the side note, Armenia's lowyer's association is going to have elections for their president if you remember that few months ago the current president walked into the offices of dissident lawyer and with 2 other guys beat him up with his coworker and has never been brought to justice. So this same current president is going to be the sole candidate in upcoming elections. Soviet stile, you want it or not, it's him. And some members here think that I have a hang up for Soviet legacy.
        This current leadership of lawyers association has made the sitizen's defence concept a joke. Judges in courtrooms break the constitution every day and attorneys cooperate with them. And of course courts do only what government and ruling party wants.
        nightmare...

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?ebc=ANyP...&v=jfLNWMCI7uc
        Last edited by Hakob; 09-08-2017, 07:13 AM.

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        • Hakob, I share your concern. It has been a moment of truth seeing Azerbaijani scandal after scandal surfacing in international media and seeing absolutely no reaction from our leaders in pointing how we are better than they are. Because we are not. Our politicians are so corrupt that they will keep silent on the corruption of other countries as to not rock the boat internally. A very telling event to witness.

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          • Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
            Hakob, I share your concern. It has been a moment of truth seeing Azerbaijani scandal after scandal surfacing in international media and seeing absolutely no reaction from our leaders in pointing how we are better than they are. Because we are not. Our politicians are so corrupt that they will keep silent on the corruption of other countries as to not rock the boat internally. A very telling event to witness.
            Sistem, the Soviet sistem and piramid structure has not changed. It is strengthening and after last elections has solidified to final shape.
            Political scene that was so weak is now dead. It's like a dying society has slipped into old, customary "rigor mortis" condition.
            Any possible active opposition that could create followers and troubles are in jail.
            This, ergir tsirani, Elq and ORO have put themselfs out by participating in fraud elections that killed their public support (or gave opportunity to HHK to kill it).
            This sistem has become so successful in killing Armenia's society that it is beyond scary.
            Unless this leaders are removed, or actually system changed, which I doubt pretty much, no change will happen and the situation will continue to worsen.
            Meanwhile the international politics today don't give much hope not only for us but the whole world of any positive developments.
            We know that Armenia needs change to survive, but our political and national drive is in coma. Fragmented and without ideas.
            For 25 years the debates have neither changed nor bore fruits.
            Last edited by Hakob; 09-08-2017, 08:57 AM.

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            • I am beginning to think that the war with Azerbaijan is becoming a very appealing idea not only for Azeris but our leadership and society.
              While for Baku it's mostly nationalist and leadership survival issue, for us it may become the only means to survive and prosper a bit.
              If new Azerbaijani territories are liberated, so to speak, it is a way to plunder and prosper for few more years.
              Turkish custom may become not only appealing for us one day, but the only means left for our elite.

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              • Very very interesting interview concerning street name changes in Yerevan and encompassing overal communist and Dashnag leaders. This guy is talking tons of historic facts. Watch it all please.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMnprV...KDf1_YfDNdnEvQ

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                • Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                  Very very interesting interview concerning street name changes in Yerevan and encompassing overal communist and Dashnag leaders. This guy is talking tons of historic facts. Watch it all please.

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMnprV...KDf1_YfDNdnEvQ
                  Indeed, this bolshevik's clock is still blocked in 1937....., : to resume, don't touch Russia, Russia is always right, and even if the crime is committed blatantly by Russia, then you must use your mind and guess : "there must be some evil Dashnag hidden behind"
                  Last edited by Vrej1915; 09-08-2017, 04:51 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post

                    Indeed, this bolshevik's clock is still blocked in 1937....., : to resume, don't touch Russia, Russia is always right, and even if the crime is committed blatantly by Russia, then you must use your mind and guess : "there must be some evil Dashnag hidden behind"
                    I don't think he is defending Russia. He is defending historic legacy which we should carefully study before acting. His statements have to be studied and explored which part is right and which part is wrong. Or the truth has to be discussed.
                    I was very moved by the story of Terians letter about Charents and repercussions.
                    Seems the guilt is more complex and spread out than we know.
                    Kind of like today...
                    I want to see his words disputed, debated and dismissed before changing any names.
                    Otherwise we will be erasing our history and culture regularly, as usual, without direction and national agenda.
                    Last edited by Hakob; 09-08-2017, 07:30 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Hakob View Post

                      I don't think he is defending Russia. He is defending historic legacy which we should carefully study before acting. His statements have to be studied and explored which part is right and which part is wrong. Or the truth has to be discussed.
                      I was very moved by the story of Terians letter about Charents and repercussions.
                      Seems the guilt is more complex and spread out than we know.
                      Kind of like today...
                      I want to see his words disputed, debated and dismissed before changing any names.
                      Otherwise we will be erasing our history and culture regularly, as usual, without direction and national agenda.
                      What else should he say, to accept what his goal is?
                      he biggins by saying that all this was meant against Russia, and ends by it, plus quoting a Tumanian? word warning against any pretentzia against Russia....

                      If you want facts, the easiyest ones comes to the way he presents Katin massacre, which is identical to the ridiculous claims of the Tchekists dating 1943....
                      There is no historical approach, it is the mouth of a communist low level commisar repeating the official line.
                      Not even the most retarded russian historian in Russia would dare to say something like that today.
                      And pay attention he sells himself, unconsciously, when he speaks by "Mez yen hantznvel..."
                      Repeat: MEZ.
                      His soul is soviet, and he is not even trying to hide it.....


                      Second easiyest page, we do not need archeologists to check.
                      This guy, with a very easy and honest tone, tries to do the exact job bolsheviks always excelled at, divide and poison the targetted society, that is us in this case.
                      He is innocently stating, that Dashnaks are to blame, for the exile of 3000 Nerkaghtoghs to Sibir in 1946, and not the Bolsheviks..... thaugh he admitts he has no proof for it....., since there can not be any other explanation...
                      As if the Bolsheviks needed rationals understandable by normal persons, from an Armenian perpective at least...
                      As if they did not execute, exile or persecute hundred of thousands of innocent Pows returning from german shtalags after 1945...., etc. , etc...

                      Kasian is a hero! Proof: he himself ended up eaten by the monster he served....
                      As if 99% of the criminals arround Vladimir iI. Ulyanov in 1917 did not end up killed by Beria/Stalin.... so they are all innocent??

                      His stinking voice comes from Stalin era, not even after it....

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