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  • #11
    Re: Some questions to armenians...

    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
    Fuzzy, have you ever been to Tekirdag or Martuni? Do you have ancestors from there? I do. They fled.

    Funny thing about Tekirdag which is more than 200 miles west of Istanbul is that immediately before it changed over to Turkish hands it was commonly known as Tekfurdag from Armenian origins and before that was also known as Rodostu and was comprised of a large population of Greeks.
    Dear freakyfreaky,
    I havent ever been Tekirdag.I wasnt know who Armenians lived in there.I visited there that if I was from there.Anybody don't do something to you.Be sure.

    Come to Anatolia.

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    • #12
      Re: Some questions to armenians...

      Question to Fuzzy:

      Why did the Ottomans change their names, their alphabet, their language and disavow their history in exchange for new statehood?

      Seems to me that they were trying to hide their identity to avoid culpability for war crimes like genocide.

      I await your response.
      Between childhood, boyhood,
      adolescence
      & manhood (maturity) there
      should be sharp lines drawn w/
      Tests, deaths, feats, rites
      stories, songs & judgements

      - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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      • #13
        Re: Some questions to armenians...

        Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
        Question to Fuzzy:

        Why did the Ottomans change their names, their alphabet, their language and disavow their history in exchange for new statehood?

        Seems to me that they were trying to hide their identity to avoid culpability for war crimes like genocide.

        I await your response.
        Dear freakyfreaky,

        Ottoman didn't change something.Ittihad and Terakki did that.They were secret J-e-w-s.They changed our culture.They are very danger.We say that they are 'Truva Horse'.

        Sabetayist is us.Pakrudini(Your Truva Horse) is yours.

        They did that live everything in 1915.They used Ottomans.They werent want you in Turkey because of your economy and policy power.

        Today,still Sabetayists are hating from you,they didnt accept past in anytime.if they accept past,everything will appear.So they are contolling Turkey Republic.Even Hrant was killed in secret Armenian(Ergenekon in Turkey Government Mafia).Sercet Armenian and Secret xxxs(Sabetayists) allianced.Diaspora and Global xxxs are supporting AKP(R.Tayyip Erdogan,President of Turkey Government,He is Islamic İdeology and he dislike Sabetayists.) Government contrarythem.

        Can I understand you?
        Last edited by Fuzzy; 07-13-2008, 11:36 AM.

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        • #14
          Re: Some questions to armenians...

          Fuzzy,

          Kemal initiated the change of the alphabet.
          Between childhood, boyhood,
          adolescence
          & manhood (maturity) there
          should be sharp lines drawn w/
          Tests, deaths, feats, rites
          stories, songs & judgements

          - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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          • #15
            Re: Some questions to armenians...



            a bit off topic, but the truth is turks shouldnt even be in anatolia - the reigion is historically greek and armenian, just look at history. the language turks speak is monglian with a mix of tatar followed by evolution and loan words from anatolian neighbours.

            did jesus ever speak about turks? is there any mention of turks in the bible? did alexander the great conquer turkey before he went to persia? no!!! turkey didnt exist yet, turkey came with monglian genghis khan, people like turks, turkmens, kyrgiz, orghouz, uzbeks, azeri, kazakhs etc they are all because of genghis khan - they are all descendants of various mongolian tribes!

            i was taught to be critical of everything and question everything. so when i was young i heavily questioned the armenian genocide. i searched everywhere and everything, every source, every side: neutral, turkish and armenian alike.

            no matter how hard i looked there is simply no evidence to say that it wasnt a genocide. it happened, its historical fact. personally (i dont speak for the rest of armenians, or hayastan for that matter) i dont want turkeys money. even if turkey admited the genocide tomorrow, and said we will compensate armenia, do u (directed at disporan armenians) think we will see one cent of that compensation!? no way! it will go to the government of armenia and it will stay there im sure of that.

            as for the land well i live in australia, does it affect me if turkey gives all of rightful armenia land to hayastan? not really, tho i admit it would be the right thing.

            personally i just want an official admitting that it happend by turkish government and people, and then to say sorry from the heart. if they do this - this will be the begining of peace, turks everywhere if u are reading this i gaurentee this. armenians i dont think are really after your money or land just yet. we simply want desent apology for the genocide that the ottoman young turks did kill 1.5 armenians, 750,000 assyrians and im not exactly sure how many pontic greeks but it was a xxxx load.

            admit this - this is the path to peace between our nations and peoples.

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            • #16
              Re: Some questions to armenians...

              Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
              Fuzzy,

              Kemal initiated the change of the alphabet.
              and to add he made the new turkish republic secular (in the turkish constitution) - not islamic - which im pretty sure is a major political topic in turkey right now.

              no armenian should disrespect ataturk, his is was very smart man, i mean cunning. yeah cunning is a better word.

              see how turkey now is trying to get into the EU. do you think they would stand a chance if they wrote in arabic script and were islamic government? no way. now they have fooled the world into thinking they are 'european' by writing in english alphabet and a 'free' secular government.

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              • #17
                Re: Some questions to armenians...

                Originally posted by Vrtanes View Post
                and to add he made the new turkish republic secular (in the turkish constitution) - not islamic - which im pretty sure is a major political topic in turkey right now.

                no armenian should disrespect ataturk, his is was very smart man, i mean cunning. yeah cunning is a better word.

                see how turkey now is trying to get into the EU. do you think they would stand a chance if they wrote in arabic script and were islamic government? no way. now they have fooled the world into thinking they are 'european' by writing in english alphabet and a 'free' secular government.
                Attaturd was cunning pedophile.

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                • #18
                  Re: Some questions to armenians...

                  we shouldn't disrespect Ataturk? But that's a tremendously popular pass time of Armenians!

                  Also, Ataturk helped Turks and continued to rob and deport Armenians. Lets respect him as a "smart and cunning historical figure" once such longstanding workings are reversed, shall we?
                  Last edited by jgk3; 09-18-2008, 08:31 AM.

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