Hemshin peoples

[Armanen]

Re: Hemshin peoples

And this means that we should work with Hamshens and create an Armenian minority inside Turkey so as to intervene in their internal affairs, instead of the suicidal and idiotic policies that people like Vigil suggest (that we should dump them).

Quite frankly, I think we should watch out because many self-portrayed "Armenian ultanationalists" might work for foreign services.

Read or reread the many posts in this thread and similar ones by Armenian, Anonymouse, jgk3, Vigil and myself to better understand what is meant by an Armenian and why having Armenian blood is inherently related to having a patriotic frame of mind.

[jgk3]

Re: Hemshin peoples

there are certain foreign services that mean the life or death for Armenia. We'd better get involved in them.

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Hemshin peoples

And this means that we should work with Hamshens and create an Armenian minority inside Turkey so as to intervene in their internal affairs, instead of the suicidal and idiotic policies that people like Vigil suggest (that we should dump them).

Quite frankly, I think we should watch out because many self-portrayed "Armenian ultanationalists" might work for foreign services.

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Armenian is whoever has Armenian ethnic consciousness. There is no such thing as "Armenian blood" and whoever creates artificial racial barriers is working against our interests by dividing the nation. Armenia should be big and that can occur by reaching to as many people as possible.

[CRDA-France]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Thank you for the debate and the information.

http://www.globalarmenianheritage-adic.fr/fr/breligion/islam/1dialogue_hamshen.htm

Kind regards. Nil (Paris)
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[jgk3]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Isn't that like the Quebecois? They don't call themselves French, they are Quebecois.

Yeah, and the country ones think Voltaire and all those philosophes were f-ags :P

[Palavra]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Hope is a precious thing but stupidy is not. There is not enough reason to stay hidden at these times.

We are not living at 1915.

But how would you know about hidden Armenians?

how would you know?

[TomServo]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Anoush and Armanen, you are persuading yourselves. If there was a significant hidden Armenian population preserving its true identity in Turkey, I would inevitably know some of them. And that's not the case.
I just try to depict the reality of Turkey, don't misunderstand me. I would be glad if we indeed such an Armenian population, unfortunately we don't.

I used to think there weren't any, either. But there are, and more than I expected.

But how would you know about hidden Armenians?

[Anonymouse]

Re: Hemshin peoples

the mere fact these people go by the name of "hamshen" and not "hye" makes the premise of this thread redundant

Isn't that like the Quebecois? They don't call themselves French, they are Quebecois.

[seruven]

Re: Hemshin peoples

Oh yes your statement is very true Armanen jan as a matter of fact there are a great deal of them; but thanks to controlling (to say the least) turkish regime they are mostly afraid and not only Hemshins origin

Anoush and Armanen, you are persuading yourselves. If there was a significant hidden Armenian population preserving its true identity in Turkey, I would inevitably know some of them. And that's not the case.
I just try to depict the reality of Turkey, don't misunderstand me. I would be glad if we indeed such an Armenian population, unfortunately we don't.