Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide years

[hipeter924]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Dictators are horrible for everyone. Democracy isn't perfect and I am deeply against the sort of society and system it creates but I can only contend that dictatorship is worse because of the political and civil rights it denies its citizens. Sadly the thing about democracy is it can never truly be representative, only partially representative. Also it is open to political corruption by corporations and by ideological standpoints. In the end though it is better to have some representation by 30 or 40% than 1% under a dictator.

[Joseph]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

You're right, both sides, Turkish and Russian Armenian were guilty for failing to unite at a moment where we badly needed to. Armenians have been used to being divided into separate factions that favour different regional powers, and in many ways, it has aided to keep us on the map throughout history during times we did not have a country. This "divided we prevail" strategy however did exactly the opposite when the whole world abandoned us to the genocidal hands of Turkey, the most gloomy point being the dissolution of the Russian Army following the their nation's revolution.

We Armenians today, as you said, have been forced, by the bloody chapter of the genocide, to change from a people who identify with different homelands, to a people who identify a single homeland. To do otherwise is to hate what we are.

The reason why this protracted discussion about how disunited we were in 1918 began is because foreign agents like Levon exist today, trying to divide our homeland once more by setting Karabaghtsis and Hayastantsis as enemies, and ultimately, delivering both sides to hell, to get eating up by our unfriendly neighbours.

Our unity ensures that we can defend ourselves against Azerbaijan, our disunity ensures that we have civil war, and then massacres by Azerbaijan.

I agree with you, especially with regards to men like Levon

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Real democracy does not exist anywhere in the world and it never did.All democracys are a form of dictatorship discised to give people the feeling of selfgovernment but in reality the people have no more real power under democracy then they did under dictatorship.Even the best intentioned democracys like the one formed during the creation of the USA eventually turn into dictatorships by means of the "patriot act",special interest groups........You may feel like you have freedom in a democracy but you have no such thing, just go ahead and try to make meaningfull change, it wont let you. The whole concept of leadership is very basic and has been that way long befor there were humans, this concept is "the strongest-smartest rule". This is a concept derived from nature and is ingrained in humans as well as many other animals. Even when we come up with great ideas like democracy or socialism, in practice they all fail because human nature dominates and we revert back to strongest-rule.

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.


Winston Churchill

[Eddo211]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Until somebody comes up with something better………….I am sticking to Democracy for I think it is the best Government system that we have ever come up with, even with all its faults.

[londontsi]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

We should wish dictatorship to Azerbaijan,
life presidency,
son being prepared to becomes next democratically elected president !!,
suppresses its own people to maintain status quo,
suppress free press
maipulated judiciary
enrich the clique around him at the expense of ordinary folk
etc etc

At the same time ready to scream like hell if any of these happens to our country !!

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Everything u just mentioned already did happen and there was plenty of screaming to but no one really cares about the screaming.

[londontsi]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

Sadly I agree. ( my comments were deliberate)

Time for wise men to speak.
Does one give up?

[Suedia]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

hmm, this problem is not new. I know from our Armenian History that the Armenians were united:
1. During the regin of Tigran The Great
2. 1918 3 battles
3. Artsakh war
4. When the country or kingdom of Armenia was in critical danger.

So it is hard to be United. The world's major powers have always divided the smaller nations, unfortunanetely. But, if every single Armenian Unite, just like how the people of the country surrounded by arabs are, we would have that kind of country right now. Our Diaspora can be as powerful as theirs.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian unity as a political, social and military force during the genocide year

hmm, this problem is not new. I know from our Armenian History that the Armenians were united:
1. During the regin of Tigran The Great
2. 1918 3 battles
3. Artsakh war
4. When the country or kingdom of Armenia was in critical danger.

So it is hard to be United. The world's major powers have always divided the smaller nations, unfortunanetely. But, if every single Armenian Unite, just like how the people of the country surrounded by arabs are, we would have that kind of country right now. Our Diaspora can be as powerful as theirs.

Armenian has been united when we had a strong king to keep us united, look at any era when there was a strong king we were united but when our leaders became weak the unity was gong and you would see Armenians fighting Armenians. And us Armenians aren't the only ones the rest of the nations that inhabit this earth have the same problem look at world history.