Question on genetics

[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Well you're partially correct. The first legit turks were probably sejkuks who migrated from present day Kazakhstan and caspian area and mixed with the local Anatolian population

You summarized In a very nice way,I studied Armenian history back in college and It says Turks were migrated and mixed with local population,no need to start fight over it

The issue is the extent that they mixed. Science has proven they have mixed to a very little extent. Central Asian DNA is practically non-existent in modern day Turks.


Ill bring up the issue of Artashes threatening me for the second time to the moderators formally, I suggest these posts are deleted and the topic restored. Ive taken screenshots for the moderators.

Artashes, I know you very old compared to most users here. You act like a 15 year old though, which is sad.

One does not migrate to an area and be called indeginous. On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia or the highlands of Hayastan. The data simply confirms rape by a smaller group onto a much larger group on a massive and persistent basis for hundreds of years. Not to be confused with being indigenous to the land.
Insofar as my threatening your mouthy xxxxxxx act ... It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting. I have asked you to speak without your insults but you continue.
A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person. When I get down there you will have that golden opportunity. You could not possibly sit at a table with men and sling such insulting talk. It's not a threat xxxxxxx it's an opportunity.
There is no racism in saying the truth, turcs did not originate there.
The turcs overran ME , our highlands, Greece, Albania etc. they weren't any nicer or decent then anymore than the genocides and their kin.
One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale.
I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.
For all to see--- read my posts and read the mouths posts. You will see who uses insults .

[Chubs]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

One does not migrate to an area and be called indeginous. On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia or the highlands of Hayastan. The data simply confirms rape by a smaller group onto a much larger group on a massive and persistent basis for hundreds of years. Not to be confused with being indigenous to the land.
Insofar as my threatening your mouthy xxxxxxx act ... It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting. I have asked you to speak without your insults but you continue.
A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person. When I get down there you will have that golden opportunity. You could not possibly sit at a table with men and sling such insulting talk. It's not a threat xxxxxxx it's an opportunity.
There is no racism in saying the truth, turcs did not originate there.
The turcs overran ME , our highlands, Greece, Albania etc. they weren't any nicer or decent then anymore than the genocides and their kin.
One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale.
I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.
For all to see--- read my posts and read the mouths posts. You will see who uses insults .

It is you chubs, not me who speaks so rudely and insulting.

Calling you out on your racism isn't insulting you.

On the two sites presented by chubs there is no evidence presented that suggests turcs are indigenous to Anatolia

Those aren't sites you fool, those are genetic studies. Read the abstracts. If those people are descended from indigenous peoples then they are indigenous, even if they converted to Islam and changed their language. Using your logic the people living there during the Byzantine times were never indigenous because they adopted Greek and Orthodox faith. How can I expect you to understand when you dont even know how to spell indigenous.

A threat (lol) ??? Chubs I told you you should talk over the Internet as if you were standing next to that person.

Well that basically confirms that you:

1. Are an old man

2. Have only been on one side of the internet for a restricted period of time

One of the sites presented by the punk is a turc scholarly work and the other I saw no author(s). Neither is indicative of indeginous to the land but only shows rape on a massive scale

Turkish nationalism is driven by the idea that Turks are from Central Asia and are part of a mythical "Turan" race. This falsifies that. Its moronic for you to deny it just because the SCIENTIST was Turkish. Also racist.

I'll see how you talk when I stand next to you.
How unfortunate for me I have to waste some of my vacation time.

Oh, I can't wait Artashes. Trust me, you wont waist any vacation time. Im currently residing in St. Petersburg, the sites are wonderful. Im sure you would enjoy it

[Eddo211]

Re: Question on genetics

We were fighting Turks with Persians long before they reached Armenian highlands. Turks mostly used Janissaries (stolen Christian babies) trained grown sent to fight their own kind. No matter how many we killed they kept coming. Todays Turks are pussies compared to their slant eye ancestors.

[Eddo211]

Re: Question on genetics

Stop it guys....this is only the internet no need for this. I don't want to see you guys get banned so cool it and stay on topic.


btw, my current Avatar is an Armenian chariot Archer in Persian Empire fighting Turks.

[Bigdikran]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I don't know how many times this has to be repeated before Armenians get it through their heads. It's great how nobody ever really worries about a Turkish threat of invasion on Armenia... I wonder why. I think they're getting used to taking this fact for granted. We are spoiled. Maybe we need to be reminded what is the distance between the Turkish border and Yerevan and how many of its neighbors Turkey is currently invading and ask the Greeks why they spend so much on their military even in their lousy economic state.

i'm a strong believer that the only solution for Armenia, to go out of all centuries centuries misery versus turk race to increase population up to 50-60 millions, solutions to every single problem that we have comes on a golden plate, now your gonna say there's is no work, i know, but there's always a way, first solution comes with abortion annulation
there's a nice video of vartan bedrossian.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmM6yrMp7NA

good day everyone

[arakeretzig]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

i'm a strong believer that the only solution for Armenia, to go out of all centuries centuries misery versus turk race to increase population up to 50-60 millions, solutions to every single problem that we have comes on a golden plate, now your gonna say there's is no work, i know, but there's always a way, first solution comes with abortion annulation
there's a nice video of vartan bedrossian.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmM6yrMp7NA

good day everyone

since we've have been in the region for 3000 years approx, that would have happened already. Which means there is little chance that will happen. anyone know how much was the population even in the golden years of Tigran da great?

[Etchmiadzin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

since we've have been in the region for 3000 years approx, that would have happened already. Which means there is little chance that will happen. anyone know how much was the population even in the golden years of Tigran da great?

A majority were probably not armenian but greek and persian and ethnicity did not have the same meaning it does today, if the empire would have lasted or any kingdom at all maybe more other people would have been absorbed and assimilated.

[ayrudzi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

]A majority were probably not armenian but greek and persian[/B] and ethnicity did not have the same meaning it does today, if the empire would have lasted or any kingdom at all maybe more other people would have been absorbed and assimilated.

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Armenian DNA shows we are indigenous to the Armenian Highlands. there is no Greek or Persian mixture in our DNA. Armenia's population at the the of Tigran the Great was roughly around 5 million. This comes from the sources we have which state the number of soldiers in his army which was around 300,000 thousand. I will put a link on the bottom that talks about the Armenian DNA. The first 30 minutes it is talking about what DNA is in general, than starting from the 30 minute mark it goes into Armenian DNA. I am getting tired of a lot of Armenians,who have an inferiority complex and think we are all mixed muts. The very infamous saying a lot of slave mentality having Armenians have where they say "original Armenians were blonde and blue eyed" This poisonous mindset comes from over 500 hundred years of being slaves to Turks, and now the offspring of Slaves who carry the same slave mentality of their slave ancestors.

Armenian DNA Project: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etBNo0638Pw

[Azad]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Where are you getting this nonsense from? Armenian DNA shows we are indigenous to the Armenian Highlands.

Not only indigenous, also the latest studies shows that there are no mix from any other existing nation or race. Attached is a genetic map showing each country's mixture from others. Notice when you select Armenia it is ONLY outwards influence/distribution. Armenians are becoming a marker as in a reference point.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com

[ayrudzi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Not only indigenous, also the latest studies shows that there are no mix from any other existing nation or race. Attached is a genetic map showing each country's mixture from others. Notice when you select Armenia it is ONLY outwards influence/distribution. Armenians are becoming a marker as in a reference point.

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com

Unfortunately a lot of Armenians with inferiority complexes insist we are mixed and not the real Armenians of ancient days. How easily us Armenians swallow the propaganda of our enemies .