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  • #21
    Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
    Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
    I'm not familiar with your views on Artsakh, so I may ask questions that you have previously answered.
    1. What do you think that the recognition would mean i.e. in practical terms?
    2. Are you for a two republic model or single republic model?
    (A two republic model can be considered just an organizational - or formal - detail.)
    I think the answer to the second question answers the first: one republic model.

    Annex Artsakh back into Armenia so that Armenia may properly be united and whole and enjoy an ROI (socially, economically, politically) for the sacrifices made by freedom fighters and Armenians in the late 80s and early 90s.
    Can't the same can be achieved with the two country model? Personally, I don't see a fundamental advantage in the one country model. Also, from a tactical and feasibility point of view, I agree with CatWoman. Briefly said, I don't see the difference as essential, even if they differ from an organizational, operational, legal etc. point of views.

    Without going into the details, it may be compared to large companies who put forward a single "identity" - or brand name - but are, for practical reasons, organized as multiple legal entities - i.e. corporations.
    For the record, I don't have in mind mergers and acquisitions, as they usually involve different brand names. For instance, the Morgan Stanley brand is different from the Discover and Dean Witter brands - though, the same company after mergers; however, the Morgan Stanley brand itself, is composed of different corporations - from a legal point of view.

    I see the Armenia-Diaspora collaboration in the same way: the same brand name, multiple entities.

    To repeat myself, what are the advantages of the one country model???





    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
    Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
    Just curious, what was the question?
    Siamanto, as to the other questions, start at post #1 in this thread and scroll down. They are there.
    I the following:
    Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
    If NKR is not another country then why did he do this today.http://www.asbarez.com/index.html?sh...173_4/1/2008_1 (Armenia must recognize NKR or sign a security compact)

    If NKR is another country, then under the constitution in place when Robert was elected president, his presidency is unconstitutional. The color revolution already occurred. You have Soviets running Armenia. No?
    Is the question/focus:
    1. Why Robert Kotcharian suggests to sign agreements, as if there were two distinct entities?
    2. Is his presidency was unconstitutional?
    3. Are Soviets running Armenia?
    (By the way, I don't see a connection between "color revolution" and the "Soviets running Armenia;" can you explain yourself?)
    What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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    • #22
      Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

      Think, RED!!!

      How is it that former Soviet Azeris can run democratic Armenia (formerly SRA) but an American-Armenian, French-Armenian, Canadian-Armenian cannot?

      Are Soviets running Armenia??? Sargsyan is a former communist party leader that some opine was a KGB member. Are Soviets running Armenia?

      Robert wouldn't recognize the constitution if it was put in front of him. What makes you think his presidency was constitutional?

      As far as a two country model. I think Armenia would be better of sucking the marrow from Stalin's bones (like you would while consuming khash) once and for all but playing with his figurative corpse for too long without putting it to rest may cause the RA to be haunted by his ghost for ever.

      Either the RA treats NKR like spoils of war, exploit it completely leaving void of any meaningful resource (i.e. a wasteland) or the RA reincorporates it, as Armenian "native" homelands.

      The problem with the latter is that none of the RA's recent leaders have convinced the world that Armenia has a valid claim to the land such that it should be recognized as part of Armenia.

      And, Siamanto, answering a question with a question is either Socratic or sophmoric. I think your recent questions were more in the latter category and less in the former.

      Note, I've answered all of your questions. Schools out.
      Last edited by freakyfreaky; 04-03-2008, 10:07 PM.
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      adolescence
      & manhood (maturity) there
      should be sharp lines drawn w/
      Tests, deaths, feats, rites
      stories, songs & judgements

      - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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      • #23
        Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

        Wow, it just amazes me how you (freaky) can be so close minded and not accept the many powerful points that have been shown to you before on this issue, everytime it is the same crap from you. And you have the audacity to say Armenian repeats himself, atleast he is open to ideas, where as you do not even take the time to study international affairs or geopolitcal strategy.
        For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
        to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



        http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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        • #24
          Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

          Originally posted by Armanen View Post
          Wow, it just amazes me how you (freaky) can be so close minded and not accept the many powerful points that have been shown to you before on this issue, everytime it is the same crap from you. And you have the audacity to say Armenian repeats himself, atleast he is open to ideas, where as you do not even take the time to study international affairs or geopolitcal strategy.
          Close-minded? Couldn't be further from it.

          Many powerful points shown to me on this issue? Where are these points.

          I don't repost the same exact c-rap in almost every post.

          Yeah, and you are a rocket scientist. Attack my positions, not me.
          Between childhood, boyhood,
          adolescence
          & manhood (maturity) there
          should be sharp lines drawn w/
          Tests, deaths, feats, rites
          stories, songs & judgements

          - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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          • #25
            Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

            Yeah, and you are a rocket scientist. Attack my positions, not me.

            This is what you do to peoples posts here and then you are suprised that people do not want to spend the time to show you how retarded most of your posts are, especially when this forum is littered with many insightful posts which you do not seem to grasp.

            I may not be a rocket scientist, but you will always be a mental midget.
            For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
            to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



            http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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            • #26
              Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

              Are you going to answer any of my questions or dispute any of my positions on this issue, or just berate me because you can't.
              Between childhood, boyhood,
              adolescence
              & manhood (maturity) there
              should be sharp lines drawn w/
              Tests, deaths, feats, rites
              stories, songs & judgements

              - Morrison, Jim. Wilderness, vol. 1, p. 22

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              • #27
                Re: Kocharian Visits Karabakh

                Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
                Are you going to answer any of my questions or dispute any of my positions on this issue, or just berate me because you can't.

                Why would I do that when you never answered mine, or those of others who do not agree with you?
                For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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