Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

[Anoush]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

I'm sorry for your loss Anoush jan. God bless your mother's soul, you and the rest of your family.

Thank you Armanen jan, and may God bless your family too.

I am sorry to mods that I drifted from the topic of the thread.

[Eddo211]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

I say Armenian Diaspora investment will be much better spend if it went dirrectly to Artsakh.

[Catharsis]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

I say Armenian Diaspora investment will be much better spend if it went dirrectly to Artsakh.

Yes indeed Eddo, at least as of now. I think even Armenia Fund realized this aspect.

[AlphaPapa]

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I say Armenian Diaspora investment will be much better spend if it went dirrectly to Artsakh.

But the deli ma for many diasporans is mistrust and bad experiences with investing in Armenia.

By the way, I see you're a fellow hunter as myself...I started identifying myself as such on another messageboard where there's over a dozen Turks and no Greeks, Bulgarians, Kurds, or Armenians and I constantly challenge them to debate issues with me at one time they were forced to accept a debate with me by moderators but as usual, they refused at the last minute and got me a month-long ban. Every time I would win a battle with them, I'd show a photo of a wolf...not necessarily in the best of health

[Eddo211]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

But the deli ma for many diasporans is mistrust and bad experiences with investing in Armenia.

By the way, I see you're a fellow hunter as myself...I started identifying myself as such on another messageboard where there's over a dozen Turks and no Greeks, Bulgarians, Kurds, or Armenians and I constantly challenge them to debate issues with me at one time they were forced to accept a debate with me by moderators but as usual, they refused at the last minute and got me a month-long ban. Every time I would win a battle with them, I'd show a photo of a wolf...not necessarily in the best of health

If you ever feel like you need a wingman just send me a PM with the coordinates......Good hunting.

[AlphaPapa]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

I'll hit u up next April http://www.anatolianfestival.org/

If you ever feel like wearing hats n sunglasses and eating at turkish restaurants for free send me a pm...i'm surrounded by them in OC.

[hipeter924]

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Unfortunately capitolism is not dead, it is wishfull thinking that it is dead but it is not.

Hayk is right about that, because the capitalist system runs in cycles, we are in a lassie faire capitalist system which a system whereby there is supposed to be perfect co-operation and balance of control of the economic system by government and corporations.

Personally there is so much wrong with how capitalism works, but I put the blame squarely on the lassie faire capitalists of wall street and other schools of lassie faire economic theory that have taught the Prime Ministers/Presidents/Dictators, and Finance Ministers and CEO's of the world how the economy should be.

As for capitalism itself there is a cycle called boom and bust, meaning there are good times and bad times but never continuous never ending growth, of course this is both a possible and negative.

It's positive in the sense that the system can never truly collapse and keeps going but negative in the fact its never stable and thus the recessions and depressions cause massive socio-economic turmoil aka poverty and you can't really plan for it.

[Haykakan]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

I did research on the boom and bust cycle for my MBA. My reasearch showed that the boom and bust cycle is so predictable you can set your watch to it. If your an investor you can easily take advantage of this knowledge. Of all the major governments in existance today, China's government has been the most successful in dealing effectively with this cycle, most likely because the government there has more power vs business and is not as corrupt in terms of doing whats best for the country vs onesself. It is easy to see the difference by observing what goes on in the usa vs china. In the usa coorporate corruption is the norm not the exception with the vast majority of the crooks getting off scot free but in china those who are found guilty of cooporate neglegence can be executed. The economic cycle is based on human nature and it is funny that for all the advances humanity has made it has yet to take control of itself.

[JohnCanadian]

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Unfortunately capitolism is not dead, it is wishfull thinking that it is dead but it is not.

That is typical Soviet era thinking you need to get over this communism oppressive type of rubbish talk that you just said about Capitalism.

Remember we are in the 21st Century not in the Soviet times. Very foolish comment.

Just because Armenia is not a proper Democracy and not benefiting from Capitalism does not mean other countries are suffering from the same issues as Armenia.

Capitalism has done very well for my Country, Australia, The EU States that joined in 2004/07 and the EU-15 and the very wealthy Japan to the extremely wealthy country of Norway

I am very satisfied that Capitalism will last it benefits all countries whether Developed e.g. EU, Canada, Australia,US. Or poorly functioning countries like Armenia, Iran an heavily sanctioned country, Azerbaijan is does not display much Capitalist features either.

Armenians like you need to move on with the times and make do with what we have, it is going to stay.

Its a shame that you have these very un European or non Democratic values. Perhaps thats one of the reasons why Armenia is not developing the soviet era and backward mentality is alive and well in Armenia and the former Soviet Union

[hipeter924]

Re: Obama and the normalization of Armenia's relations with Turkey

That is typical Soviet era thinking you need to get over this communism oppressive type of rubbish talk that you just said about Capitalism.

Remember we are in the 21st Century not in the Soviet times. Very foolish comment.

Just because Armenia is not a proper Democracy and not benefiting from Capitalism does not mean other countries are suffering from the same issues as Armenia.

Capitalism has done very well for my Country, Australia, The EU States that joined in 2004/07 and the EU-15 and the very wealthy Japan to the extremely wealthy country of Norway

I am very satisfied that Capitalism will last it benefits all countries whether Developed e.g. EU, Canada, Australia,US. Or poorly functioning countries like Armenia, Iran an heavily sanctioned country, Azerbaijan is does not display much Capitalist features either.

Armenians like you need to move on with the times and make do with what we have, it is going to stay.

Its a shame that you have these very un European or non Democratic values. Perhaps thats one of the reasons why Armenia is not developing the soviet era and backward mentality is alive and well in Armenia and the former Soviet Union

I think I am tired of your thinking, then the first conversation I had with you over NZ rang alarm bells.

But regardless its time for you to wake up about Iran and the rest of the world. There is no such thing as a perfect country, in Canada there are poor people, in Australia there are poor people, everywhere there are poor...even in Japan 10% of people are unemployed or poor.

As for Norway it is more democratic socialism and it has a strong welfare state and high taxes, also Japan, Norway, the EU, the US and Canada all have different brands of capitalism so I wouldn't stick them all in the same category.

Capitalism is not perfect, it is better than communism but not perfect, every economist with some kind of brain not tied to Stalin's mantelpiece realises that...or they wouldn't be discussing lassie faire, and other economic theory as way to solve its problems.

Finally Iran is not an evil regime, even Israel and the US only say Iran is bad because of its antagonistic attitude to Israel and the United States as well its link with Syria and other middle eastern nations that aren't on best terms with Israel.

I doubt you have set one foot in the middle east so what do you know? There are Iranian's in NZ that are just intelligent and rational as any other human being, I think you are just ignorant and living in the middle ages. You are right we are in the 21st century....the crusades are over and to put it frankly from Malaysia, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, Indonesia, Pakistan to Iran to anywhere...most Muslims hate violence just like anyone else.

Also I would remind you without Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq would have been impossible and its well known that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait as Muslim nations are before Israel the best allies of the US in the middle east.

I am thinking you just like bashing other countries and give an air of arrogance, what you say is just wrong and in Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, United Nations and other organisations I think those sorts of views you have wouldn't be tolerated.