“Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

[Anahita]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

That homosexual parenting does not impact children.

Nope.

I'm sure it does. I think that's often in very good ways that have little to do with if the child is gay--that's irrelevant, I think.

I don't really care if gay parents are more likely to have gay children than heterosexual parents. Let's pretend: gay parents were more likely to have gay kids? So what? You seem to imply that there is something wrong with being gay (though I think you've posted some good points on this thread). There isn't anything wrong with being gay. I don't understand the homophobic mentality.

[Anonymouse]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

Nope.

And that's not what you did in this post and why you put in bold the specific parts which argue that exact point?

Now you are caught lying.

[Anahita]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

And that's not what you did in this post and why you put in bold the specific parts which argue that exact point?

Now you are caught lying.

What are you talking about? You aren't making any sense.

[Anonymouse]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

What are you talking about? You aren't making any sense.

Are you going to address the argument and the obvious lie I caught you in or are you going to keep making excuses? Either way, your credibility is already gone.

Now you have gone and edited the post in which you lied, but anyone can look at the time of the post and the time of the edit and see your obvious back tracking of trying to edit your way out.

[Anonymouse]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

Nope.

I'm sure it does. I think that's often in very good ways that have little to do with if the child is gay--that's irrelevant, I think.

I don't really care if gay parents are more likely to have gay children than heterosexual parents. Let's pretend: gay parents were more likely to have gay kids? So what? You seem to imply that there is something wrong with being gay (though I think you've posted some good points on this thread). There isn't anything wrong with being gay. I don't understand the homophobic mentality.

I am responding to this thread because before you edited it, all it said was 'nope'.

As for why it matters, because proponents of same sex marriage and supporters of the homosexual lobby like to use it as an argument to bolster their case, don't you think that an open inquiry into all the facts is a good thing and if there is an obvious distortion that it should be not be hidden from the public eye?

Either way, this thread got very much sidetracked as it is about homosexuality and Armenians, not homosexuality per se. As such, let's get the focus back on the original topic.

[Anahita]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

Are you going to address the argument and the obvious lie I caught you in or are you going to keep making excuses? Either way, your credibility is already gone.

Now you have gone and edited the post in which you lied, but anyone can look at the time of the post and the time of the edit and see your obvious back tracking of trying to edit your way out.

I did not lie, Anonymouse. I find that to be an offensive accusation, really. I think Karoaper even SAW that I had the whole article there. I told you that I shortened it in an edit. Re-read what I wrote.

You assumed you knew why I posted the article and then ran off with your conclusions... Nothing new.

[Edit: and your previous post didn't appear until after I posted this one]

[Anonymouse]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

I did not lie, Anonymouse. I find that to be an offensive accusation, really. I think Karoaper even SAW that I had the whole article there. I told you that I shortened it in an edit. Re-read what I wrote.

You assumed you knew why I posted the article and then ran off with your conclusions... Nothing new.

Okay, but let's focus on the topic now, Armenians and homosexuality.

[Anahita]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

I saw the photo of the newlyweds a little before this thread was started.

I am a little worried that the pressure of publicity might hurt their relationship--one guy didn't seem as happy as the other one (I think that's likely about being international news).

Here it is:

http://armenianow.com/?action=viewArticle&AID=1617&CID=1733&IID=&lng=eng&PHPSESSID=dedb68f43fe97bc49fc0cf715133b40b

[transian]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

I tell every guy upfront when we meet that I am a transexual. About 3/4 still want to date me anyway,they just don't want anybody else to know about it.

[Anahita]

Re: “Love and Loyalty”: Marriage in secret, in an environment of fear

Right on for being you and for your honesty!

I'm not that surprised about your stat, too. I think lots of extreme homophobia comes from people's closet attraction to the same sex (even if they are mostly heterosexual.) They think, if I act hateful towards gays, people will know that I'm not. The opposite is often true, though. Those who own up to their mild homophobia, or aren't homophobic, are secure with who they are.