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[Mher]

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I agree 100% with the protest, this is what should be done to improve the country. The young people need to challenge the authorities and keep improving the country. Those are not the people that are complaining they are improving the country, they are real patriots and if I was living in Armenia I would be one of them. What Armanen is talking about are the people that only see the bad side of things and cannot stop complaining and only see the dark side of everything. When you hear some people describe Armenia you would think it is the worst place on the face of this planet. Look at those cops in the video and how civilised they are and after that go and look for videos about Occupy Wall street.

Yeah I absolutely agree with that. People in Diaspora, or people who just want to leave the country shouldn't complain. But these people who are actually fighting to improve need to do exactly what they are doing.

[Armanen]

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The biggest issue I see is when Armenians politicize problems that should not be and invite foreigners to meddle. I see that as weakening Armenian statehood, and those doing it as traitors to the nation. I am not saying these particular protesters are doing that, mind you.

[Federate]

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Great post Karo.

Apparently, there's foreigners protesting too in this video:

[Tigranakert]

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Yerevan mayor refuses to support environmental activists

February 21, 2012 | 20:33
YEREVAN. � Yerevan City Mayor Taron Margaryan made a statement in relation to the protests against installing boutiques in the Mashtots Park.

�Dear Yerevan residents,

The installation of temporary pavilions in the non-green area of the Mashtots Park gained a public resonance. It is better to exchange reasonable facts and achieve mutual public understanding instead of protesting.

Anyone who desires to get acquainted with the facts on installing temporary pavilions in the park will make fair conclusions. The facts are the following: the pavilions mainly in green areas on the Abovyan Street in Yerevan downtown has been dismantled by the city hall. However, the owners were provided with other areas as compensation, including the nearby non-green area of the Mashtots Park. To note, the area is for temporary use. Important and complicated property issues should not be settled based on separate people�s idea of justice.

I believe any issue regarding the capital may be settled in a civilized way for the benefit of our city, the statement reads.

Great news. This issue is a great example of the wrong direction Armenians are heading. They think now think that "democracy'' means that you can do whatever you want, you can say whatever you want to government officials and police, and demand whatever you want. I think the Armenian police have gone too soft. If there is one thing you should NOT do against Armenians, is being soft, as they will want more and more and more, which will eventually lead to more destruction, which is inherit to our genes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mjpWvWMKN2o

This video is a disgrace. Armenians, also members of this forum, just like donkeys believe everything, which is being said about Armenia, only if it has a negative tone. Per definition the government is wrong.

Have you guys seen the video? In Europe, the protesters would have been arrested within a second. They disobey the police, they push the police, they shout at the police, and if that is not enough, around 8:00, they even BEAT A TRUCK, and THREATEN THE DRIVER, who is just a normal person doing is job, AND THE POLICE DOES NOT EVEN INTERVENE. This is a disgrace, an utter disgrace.

The consequences of this will be very dangerous. What do Armenians want, justice, rule of law and no corruption? Then our police forces should also act professional and the citizens should obey the laws. The person who used violence, and those disobeying or obstructing the police should have been arrested, just as in Europe.

Furthermore, after being informed by a friend, he also told me the construction was on a small non-green Area of the Mashtots park. Hell, do you guys even know what Mashtos "park" is? Is not even worth to be called a park, it's like a small area in a street, with like 10 trees, and construction all around it. It has already been great that they have moved the kiosks on the streets of Abovian, to a place, which is not even that popular, was underdeveloped, dirty and will bother nobody.

A disgrace. I am not even talking about some Americans and Europans who state that because they are an "American" and as in "America" there is rule "law" they are demonstrating, just for the cause of demonstrating. Haha, are they being serious?

[Mos]

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I always disliked those environmental hippies. Yerevan Mayorship has done a fine job with its improvements of Yerevan, especially improving green areas and parks. Most of the green areas/trees were destroyed during Levon's Presidency when there was little heat. I think it's worth replanting trees and making Yerevan more green, and city officials along with other groups have been working and progressing on that. You can't have everything you want, there are trade offs, these environmentalist hippies think rather naively.

[Mos]

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The Hippies protesting....oh God...lol

[Haykakan]

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The Times (London)
March 2, 2013 Saturday
Edition 1; National Edition


Battle to save the Euro-leopard

Simon Barnes

The great problem with European life is that there are not nearly
enough cats. I don't mean xxxxx-cats: I mean the big fierce ones that
can kill you. Life is a great deal richer for the presence of enormous
menacing felids. They add a touch of Tabasco to a morning stroll.

My favourite big cat is, of course, all of them, but I can't deny a
special fondness for leopards. It's in the movement: that vast elastic
stride, the smoothness, as if every joint has been bathed in a gallon
of oil. I've seen them most often at night, in the Luangwa Valley in
Zambia, hunting them out with a spotlight. Catch them in the beam and
they look as if they are lit from within.

Leopards are cats of subtlety. In most of their range they are not the
alpha predators, ceding that role to lions and tigers. In many places
their kills can be stolen by hyenas or dhole, the Asian wild dogs. So
they tend to be nocturnal, silent, sneaky, clever: highly talented at
not being seen. Which makes seeing one all the sweeter.

Europe used to have plenty of big cats.

Herodotus, writing around 480BC, said that they were common in Greece.
Two hundred years later, Aristotle said that they were rare. Now the
idea of European lions seems a joke: an aberration: against nature.
It's nothing of the kind.

The historic range of the tiger has been reduced by 93 per cent since
the beginning of the 20th century. But the leopard, being by nature
the most subtle of all the big cats, hangs on in some unexpected
places. Like Europe. They are capable of living close to human
populations without making much impact: without being seen.

And they hang on on the very fringes of our continent. You can still
find leopards on the Caucasus, the strip of land between the Black and
the Caspian seas. Armenia counts as Europe: their football team is
ranked 50th of 53 by Uefa, the European football union, so it must be
true. And they have leopards.

The Caucasus Wildlife Refuge is a wild spot managed by an Armenian
NGO, the Foundation for the Preservation of Wildlife and Cultural
Assets (FPWC). It is in the middle of the wildest part of the Caucasus
that spans six countries. And they've found leopards.

Samples of fur and droppings discovered in the refuge have been
subjected to genetic tests by Jerusalem Zoo, and they confirmed that
they come from the Caucasian leopard, a leopard subspecies. Our own
Euro-leopard. This now fabulously rare animal is hanging on out there:
but it's very much a creature on the edge.

My old friends at World Land Trust (I'm a council member) have
recently hooked up with FPWC and established a partnership.

They are planning to fund the Armenian organisation so that they can
buy land to extend the Wildlife Refuge, and, at the same time, fund
rangers who will patrol the place and help to prevent illegal hunting.

In other words, this impossible thing is true, and it can stay true if
there is the human will. We really do have big cats in Europe. As
Europeans we all have a share in that pleasure and, of course, an
opportunity to invest in their future.

There aren't many of them. There may be no more than 15 of them in all
Armenia. But Mary Tibbett, of World Land Trust, says: "They're
resilient and we believe they can be saved." Leopards, being among the
subtler beasts of the field, have a knack of hanging on. They're there
to save if we want them.

This fabulously '' rare animal is hanging on, but it's very much on the edge

[Haykakan]

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SCIENTIST CONCERNED OVER DECLINE IN CAUCASIAN LEOPARD POPULATION IN ARMENIA

13:38 12.09.13

The population of Caucasian leopards (Panthera pardus ciscaucasica)
has declined in Armenia in recent years because of poaching and
troops stationed on the Line of Contact, Mamilkon Ghasabyan of the
Scientific Center of Zoology and Hydroecology, Armenian National
Academy of Sciences, told Tert.am.

"There was a large population of Caucasian leopards in Armenia years
ago, but it has seriously declined since the collapse of the Soviet
Union," he said.

The Foundation for the Preservation of Wildlife and Cultural Assets
(FPWC) installed videos cameras at the Khosrov forest reserve. On
August 7, a camera recorded a Caucasian leopard.

Armenian News - Tert.am

[bell-the-cat]

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SCIENTIST CONCERNED OVER DECLINE IN CAUCASIAN LEOPARD POPULATION IN ARMENIA

The Mos's, Tigranakert's and Armanen's of Armenia would be rushing to shoot the very last one, turn it into a floor rug, and sell it to the likes of Dodo Gago to grace one of his whore's bedrooms.

[Haykakan]

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The Mos's, Tigranakert's and Armanen's of Armenia would be rushing to shoot the very last one, turn it into a floor rug, and sell it to the likes of Dodo Gago to grace one of his whore's bedrooms.

Kinda curious how you know this? Was this info in a glass ball or maybe on the Ipad?