And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

[lampron]

Re: Spread the TRUTH

Indeed! And God willing we will see it done within our lifetimes!

God helps those who struggle and sacrifice themselves and keep their faiths alive!

The Turco-Tatars overran Anatolia, parts of the Caucasus and much of the Balkans because the Byzantines,Armenians and Bulgarians etc allowed them to do so

[Armanen]

Re: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

God helps those who struggle and sacrifice themselves and keep their faiths alive!

We're on the same page man

[Hellektor]

We are on the same track indeed

Dear skhara,

I was editing the post and since I don't like the line "Last edited by..." to be added at the end, I always delete and post anew, so your post came before mine.

I though that was only my obsession

See how similar we are after all! I particularly dislike that because it creates the suspicion the poster removed something they thought was too bold or inappropriate or the like, whereas in many cases it's more about adding something or corrections, isn't it?

Well, there is the possibility to explain the reason of the edit, which increases the suspicion even more.

I'm anxiously waiting to see what he has to say

(There, you even managed to squeeze a smiley out of me!)

Who, me?

I meant skhara. I am kind of economical with smilies! Don't know, it's just a trait.

O boy Hellektor -- I think you'll get Armenian going on this topic.

Don't understand?

What are you two up to?

Skhara has been for such a long time on this forum thus knows you better, so I'll leave this to skhara to clarify.

[Hellektor]

Re: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

Contrary to popular belief, I 'allow' dissent - as long as it's done by true nationalists like yourself. Thus, I give you my permission to "disagree" with me as much as you like, if my "permission" means anything to you

I wasn't expecting you to be fanatical, anyway I don't necessarily disagree, this term has a slightly negative connotation. It can be expressed as opinion varying in certain points.

You are right. When typed words electronically appear in cyberspace it lacks a 'human' touch - there is no voice, no body gesture, no obvious feeling in it. As a result, comments can be perceived incorrectly at times. I thought you were serious. So yes, you are correct... Just like Satan, creatures like Turks preclude the existence of an all good universal creator God.

The creature going by the four-letter curse Turk is beyond evil. I am positive there has never been a more vicious, atrocious, ferocious, pernicious, seditious species of two-legged parasites that has been so morbidly destructive to a peaceful, industrious nation like the Armenians, whose home they have trampled under their filthy cloven hoofs, whose culture they have devastated and whose civilization they have reduced to rubble after having stopped it for a thousand years. Yet instead of repentance, they accuse us of their most despicable savageries, projecting their diabolical barbarity on us. I do not doubt for a second that this monstrosity is only human in appearance and I seriously do not know how this malignant pestilence is so rabidly shameless, utterly worthless, repugnantly remorseless, nauseatingly merciless and endlessly hateful.

You are right. When typed words electronically appear in cyberspace it lacks a 'human' touch - there is no voice, no body gesture, no obvious feeling in it. As a result, comments can be perceived incorrectly at times. I thought you were serious. So yes, you are correct... Just like Satan, creatures like Turks preclude the existence of an all good universal creator God. Christ our God said love your enemies but he also said 'hate' evil. And no, I am not a priest. But I am religious in my own way. Although my 'personal' theological beliefs are very unorthodox, I fully support our Apostolic Church for cultural and national reasons.

I can perfectly live with that. It might be the lack of god gene or my artistic side, in any case this does not mean I am totally void of the human trait called doubt. Of course there are moments where I say "Oh, dear Jesus", at the same time believing there's most probably no one at the other end of the line. The fact is, the greatest genius in the universe will never be able to prove or disprove god, thus an argument on the issue will lead to nowhere.

Jesus for me (if the Jesus of the Gospels really existed as described) is just an exceptionally good man and there's nothing wrong in following his example. A most unquestionable truth is that every single one of us sees god their own way. In other words, no one's god looks like that of another.

Let me put this straight: I don't subscribe to such false and evil theologies either. I reject the Christian Old Testament (Tanakh/Torah). I only accept Christ's Gospel (New Testament). And even with the Christian Gospel, I find myself reading between the lines.

This is the theology I more-or-less subscribe to: http://forum.armenianclub.com/showthread.php?t=10028

I'll definitely check it out.

I totally understand you and I agree with you. In essence, we are on the same page regarding theology. The only difference between you and I is that I, a long time ago, convinced myself that a supreme supernatural being, a heavenly creator (architect/designer), that we mortals call God - exists. I don't know its sex, its name, its address, its nature... I simply know/feel that he/she/it exists. I also know/feel that 'evil' exists on earth in forms of demons/spirits that are totally independent of the creator God. In finally analysis, finite mortals such as ourselves are unable to comprehend the infinite wisdom and nature of a being like the creator of our universe.

Thinking about the vastness of the universe makes it really hard for me to convince myself of the existence of such an infinite CONSCIOUS being, however, there might be an architect/designer of this universe which is not a consciousness, maybe it's energy or a spark or whatever. I am not so sure of that either, but I can neither prove nor disprove its existence.

Seek to live up to 'your' expectations, no one else's. Having said that, I must also say you have done a magnificent job with your essay in this thread. I am looking forward to you publishing it.

This is the nth time people have suggested this. I am flattered, but I don't know how I can publish it in Iran where I live. In any case, if members of different forums help spread it (text or PDF) all over the Internet, so that it reaches the majority of the interested parties (Turds, Armenians, Judeo-Saxons, Eurofags, or whoever has heard of "Azerbaijan") it can have the same effect.

"Levin Petrostein"

I am proud of that invention of mine. Now I can retire knowing that I have impacted Armenian life and politics. But seriously, as long as treasonous criminals like Levon Petrosian, filthy pigs like Raffi Hovanisian and sewer rats like Alex Arzumanian exist as prominant members within our people, we will remain pathetic, insignificant and endangered as a nation. I am almost middle aged and I have 'never' in my life 'wished' for the death of an individual, even that of a criminal... Levon was the first for me.

I cannot hurt a fly either. Well, when I see a cockroach and I have no other option than to kill it, I ask forgiveness of god (in case he/she/it exists) but I can't help it because the poor creatures, although harmless, are the epitome of the disgusting. I believe god (in case he/she/it exists) created this creature only for this purpose. As far as Levin, it's not thirst for blood, but a necessity to maintain the Armenian state that the piece of shit has to become food for hyenas or worms six feet under. This is a necessity, because Turks and Jews will not give up on this traitor to weaken the Armenian state to bring it on the verge of destruction.

His elimination is a little price to pay considering the damage he already inflicted on Armenia, and I don't only mean what happened in the last few months, but from the days he stole the presidency of Armenia. I hope the statesmen in Armenia come to their senses and instead of sucking up to the Europoufs and other Zionist filth, get rid of the SOB, ASAP.

[skhara]

Re: We are on the same track indeed

Skhara has been for such a long time on this forum thus knows you better, so I'll leave this to skhara to clarify.

Oh its no biggy. Armenian has unique views in regards to Christianity and is pretty passionate about them.

By the way, the effort you put into this report is very commendable and is to be considered a weapon to help drown out the turkic propaganda in regards to Armenian history. I will be periodically drawing information from this report to help make my points elsewhere.

Thank you.

[Armanen]

Re: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

Guys lets spread Hellektor's analysis to as many people and forums as possible. Seriously I want to see his writings being published by panarama.am or panarmenian.net

[Hellektor]

Re: We are on the same track indeed

By the way, the effort you put into this report is very commendable and is to be considered a weapon to help drown out the turkic propaganda in regards to Armenian history. I will be periodically drawing information from this report to help make my points elsewhere.

Thank you.

You sure are welcome to spread this any way you can. You're absolutely right, we must counter the Turkish lies more efficiently and since unlike the Turds we don't have the Jew owned media behind us, we must multiply our efforts tenfold.

This thing is just a beginning. I hope people will go and read the sources I have presented here (where in turn they'll find out about more sources from their bibliography) and do their own, better and more exhaustive research. We have to become more active regarding our issues.

[Hellektor]

Re: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

Guys lets spread Hellektor's analysis to as many people and forums as possible. Seriously I want to see his writings being published by panarama.am or panarmenian.net

Sure Armanen, I would really appreciate whoever of you guys has the contacts, to put this on as many websites as possible. This must also drive us to carry on with this, extending the research and debunking the Turkish lies more efficiently.

[oslonor]

Re: And the Fraud Had a Name, Azerbaijan: the Real, the Fake and the Absurd

Is this a Pro-Azeri Club here???

[Hellektor]

Ignore the "Azeri" spambot!

That's what happens when you shove hard facts in their muzzles, they lose control and start vomiting accusations!

Guys, once more:
Oslonor is an "Azeri" spambot, the best thing to do is to ignore it.