Armenia and the information war

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Probably they would beat the Armenians or kill them. The thing is, we Armenians are not a violent, savage people. We don't have the barbarism most nations have, nor the imperialism the West has, which too some extent, is unfortunate. Let them pretend to be tough, we will kick their ass on the battlefield.

What needs to be changed is our information system and propaganda activities. In this world it's about how much you shout, and how much money you spend, rather than what you are saying. Also it plays a role that Azerbaijan has oil, and as soon as the oil has disappeared (2019), most Western countries won't give a damn about what they say.

Anyway, I would like to see Armenians to be more hard, just like other nations. This time, mercy must not be in our vocabulary. We have to get rid of them all, I mean literally all.

We should have gone all the way to Baku during the war. I would have love to seen Azeri faces as we took over Baku.

The problem with getting the Armenians outside of Armenia energised and firmly standing for Armenia is a few reasons:
-Some of these "Armenians" simply don't care about Armenia or have no interest
-Some are an embarrassment as they look to Western corrupt culture like Kardashian as an example of an armenian and try to act like that, we don't need such corrupt fools in our ranks
-Some get assimilated and only bring up armenian during international festivals, they are pressured into being non-Armenian, as people look down on Armenians

The bottom line is you have a segment of the Armenian diaspora that are simply not Armenian. In order to be Armenian one must have a resounding allegiance to Armenia above any place else, and must be concerned about Armenia's issues. They must importantly always present themselves as only Armenians doesn't matter where they are. If you say you are Armenian and they frown, well you should spit on that person.

We need to be organised against Azeri propaganda, but we have to remember that when we say armenians, we aren't talking about everyone, but the armenians that actually care about Armenia and have a forever entrusting allegiance in the homeland.

[Mos]

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We, Armenians, are so pathetic, that we can't even cope with an enemy of the state, a thug, criminal who wants to sell our country and destroy our nation. Yes, a person like this is more respected and supported than true nationalists (and I am not speaking of Serzh Sargysyan), but others, that you probably don't know because people don't give a damn about true nationalists and true Armenians. Armenia doesn't need democracy, as most probably these dirty bastards will come to power (as always with USA supported governments), we need a (national-socialistic) government which has a tight control over the country and just has liberal economic rules and economic freedom.

I would argue that our economy needs to be more left oriented, more government control and more emphasis on workers. The neo-liberal economic policies of today aren't the best way to steer our economy. We need a healthy mixture between free enterprise and government control.

[Tigranakert]

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I would argue that our economy needs to be more left oriented, more government control and more emphasis on workers. The neo-liberal economic policies of today aren't the best way to steer our economy. We need a healthy mixture between free enterprise and government control.

I agree, with economic freedom I mean everyone should have the right and ease to start a business and no one should have a monopoly on whatever there may be (except the government).

[Mos]

Re: Armenia and the information war

I agree, with economic freedom I mean everyone should have the right and ease to start a business and no one should have a monopoly on whatever there may be (except the government).

Yes, making Armenia a more friendly to small business and start ups is crucial, especially given our large diaspora who may want to invest or start businesses in the homeland.

[Odar]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Whatever the kind of economy, if there's corruption it's exactly the small businesses that suffer the most. Big firms can afford paying large bribes.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia and the information war

A very nice article by Arevordi (Armenian) I want to share.

American Media Blitz Against Armenia - February, 2011

Breaking news!!!

Kirk Kerkorian has stop helping Armenia... The Millennium Challenge fund is shutting its offices in Armenia... The protocols is part of a secret plan to join Armenia to Turkey... Armenia is on the very verge of total destruction... Armenia's servicemen are massacring one-another... Armenia's women are being brutally murdered... Armenia's uber-corrupt government is driving all businesses out of the country… Armenia has no free press… Armenia's is trailing behind Georgia in development... Armenia's leaders are unelected… Armenia's president is going sell Artsakh to the Azeris... Armenia is being re-colonized by Russia... Armenia is to be invaded any day now... Armenia's poor are starving to death... Armenia's women are turning to prostitution en-mass... Armenia is turning into crime ridden third-world cesspool... Armenia's air is toxic... Armenians gangs are running amok… Armenia's population is merely one Armavia flight away from total extinction!!!

Don't believe the hype.

There is a full-scale media blitz against Armenia. Listening to the Western press and its lackeys within our communities discuss Armenia these days, one would think that this is the very end of the road for our fledgling republic in the Caucasus. Armenia has finally reached its cul-de-sac. Some people in very high places would like our self-destructive peasantry to believe that if a Western inspired color revolution in Armenia does not succeed in putting into power a kabal of mercenaries that are willing to serve their Anglo-American-Zionist masters, the Armenian state will soon cease to exist. What is what they want you and I to believe. They are carefully preparing their field of play. Something must be going down behind the scenes in Washington. I hope that something is not a major regional war, but looking at the volatility of the political situation in the region today that may certainly be it.

Alarmingly, they are succeeding in convincing most of us that it's all a lost cause. The toxicity of their campaign is now permeating all layers of Armenian society. Helplessness and hopelessness, despair and desperation is what one immediately sees in Armenian circles there days. The divide between the homeland and the diaspora is growing. Divisions within Armenia itself are deepening. Please read the various articles posted below this commentary to better acquaint yourselves to their long-term political intentions. Also read the comments posted by various individuals below some of the articles in question to better feel the overall-mood at hand these days. The primary catalysts of bad news, the vehicle upon which their corrosive propaganda travels within the Armenian community, are ArmeniaNow and Radio Liberty and their various affiliates in and out of Armenia.

Various Western measures to bring the fledgling Armenian state in the Caucasus to its knees and under its shadow have not bore fruit. Armenia won the war against a Western-backed Azerbaijan. Armenia has been bravely enduring an almost twenty year economic blockade by NATO via Turkey, of course. And much to their dismay, Armenia has entered into an institutionalized military alliance with the Russian Federation and it has established very warm relations with Iran.

When economic and/or military measures fail to break a nation’s will, they will resort to psychological warfare - the war against the nation's spirit and its will to live. What most Armenians do not know is that psychological warfare (psyop) is an actual manner of combat and one that is employed by virtually all major powers on earth. It’s just that the Anglo-American-Zionist global order’s strategic psychological warfare operations are considered to be the world’s most sophisticated and most lethal. Most Armenians also fail to realize that Armenia has been a major target of these types of operations by the West for a very long time; it actually goes back to the Cold War period when the Armenian diasporan was employed by Western officials to undermine Soviet Armenia. The intensity of this Washington based psychological operations have been increased lately. In my opinion, this is most probably as a result of the long-term military deal Yerevan struck with Moscow during last summer and perhaps due to Armenia's good relations with Tehran. Nevertheless, make no mistake about it, even as I write this, there is a full-scale psychological warfare blitz taking place against the Armenian state.


What are their intentions? Why are they targeting the little, landlocked, blockaded and impoverished nation surrounded by so many enemies in the Caucasus? Simply put: Yerevan refuses to play the game with the Anglo-American-Zionist order. Armenia has chosen Russia to be its military ally and economic lifeline. I don’t need to explain why Armenia has chosen Russia instead of the aforementioned global empire. The reasons are self-explanatory. Armenia also refuses to participate in the campaign against Iran. For you see, had Armenia’s authorities been Washington’s puppets, we would not have heard a single bad word about them in the Western press. Had Armenian officials been in bed with Washingtonian officials, despite any of its problems, Armenia would be portrayed as heaven on earth and Armenia’s leaders as - protectors of freedom and democracy.

Simply because Yerevan has gotten into a crucially important military alliance with the dreaded Russian Federation (a much envied political entity the West has tried to undermine/destroy for centuries), Armenia will continue being targeted by Washington.

When was the last time you read or heard anything negative said about any one of Washington's numerous dictators/tyrants in South America, Central America, Africa, Arabia, South East Asia, Central Asia? When you do hear some criticism of a corrupt leader that has been close to Washington, like when they criticize Hamid Kharzai from time to time, it simply means that they either had a falling out over some political/economic matter or it's simply a ploy/theatrics.

As a result of recent political developments in the Middle East and North Africa, Washington and its many assets in the Armenian community are smelling blood once again. Taking advantage of Armenia's on-going economic woes (which is due in part to the global economic downturn), they would like to use the opportunity to foment a popular uprising against the Armenian state. And they are using their diverse assets in Armenia and in the diaspora to push their geopolitical agenda and to break the Armenian people’s will/spirit.

ArmeniaNow, for instance, has more-or-less been lamenting that Armenia is not descending into a bloody mess. This propaganda outlet in Yerevan is run by John Hughes, a well known CIA asset from California that many of our self-destructive peasantry adores. With their very incineration reporting, ArmeniaNow played a major role in trying to provoke violence against the state during Levon Ter Petrosian's attempted coup d'etat in early 2008. Since Georgia's defeat in the summer of 2008, however, the staff at ArmeniaNow had considerably toned-down their anti-state rhetoric. For the past three years, they had been very careful with their reporting. Now, with them smelling blood once again, they are gradually/subtly/carefully attempting to renter the fray. Simply put, ArmeniaNow's intentions in Armenia are solely the intentions of Washington and Washington’s intentions in Armenia are solely to carryout a regime change there. Again, it’s all about Armenia’s alliance with Russia and its good relations with Iran.

I’m afraid their relentless psyop campaign is working. We now have a significant portion of our compatriots both in and out of the homeland demoralized and hopeless beyond help. For these Armenians, the Armenian sky is literally falling on their heads. The hopelessness, the anger, the helplessness, the despair, the pessimism, the morbidity, the cynicism, the willingness to abandon the nation, the willingness to dodge the military draft. The ubiquitous bad news being displayed is fast becoming a convenient excuse for all those who want to spit on their homeland and abandon it to its fate.

The reality is that yes, Armenia is hurting today. But Armenia is hurting no more than most other countries in the world, countries that are even in much better circumstances than it. Perhaps this is news to Armenians today, but last I checked, virtually the entire world was reeling from an economic crisis. Perhaps this is news to Armenians today, but food prices, commodity prices and energy prices are going up all around the world. Perhaps this is news to Armenians today, but social/political turmoil has gripped the entire world. Perhaps this is news to Armenians today, but oligarchs, monopolist and corrupt officials saturate virtually all governments of the world (perhaps with the exception of Scandinavian nations and Germanic ones in Europe). Perhaps this is news to Armenians, but the opulence of the past twenty somewhat years in the western world has all but ended. The whole world now has been hurting.

It's more-or-less the same old story everywhere we look these days. Underemployment, unemployment, higher energy costs, higher rates of poverty, shrinking middle class, higher food costs, numerous wars, disease, widespread political tensions. We are seeing the rise of unrest in many places on earth now. The situation has gotten so bad around the world that I'm actually very worried about a world war breaking out in the near future. The reality of the matter is that Armenia is not uniquely or exceptionally in a bad situation. Another reality is that despite all the odds being stacked against our landlocked and blockaded nation in the Caucasus, Armenia has been able to keep its head above water.

So, what’s with all the damn doom and gloom amongst Armenians? I don't see this kind of irrationality, hysteria and/or destructive behavior elsewhere. I don't see civilized people willing to abandon their homelands en-mass. We Armenians have become demoralized to such an extent that we are more than willing to spit on our homeland. Why is it that many Armenians are more than ready to abandon their homeland as a result of economic hardship? Why do we Armenians turn and run when faced with a threat of an invasion? Why do we constantly bad-mouth the country? We no longer are able to see hope. We are unable to see positive signs. We can no longer process good news. We are unable to understand the big picture. And the strange part is that in reality good news from Armenia is not all that rare. It's as if we are actually seeking bad news to spread. It's as if we are actually seeking poison to spew. As I mentioned above, Armenia is NOT the ONLY nation on earth with serious hardships.

Many of us claim that the hopelessness and despair currently being felt in Armenia and in the diaspora is primarily a result of nation's gluttonous businessmen and its corrupt oligarchs. In my opinion, this take on the matter is only partially correct; it's a half truth that is actually keeping us blinded to what is occurring. I ask again: is Armenia the only nation on earth with corrupt oligarchs? The fact is even the nastiest of Armenia's oligarchs pale in comparison to ones found in other nations? Is Armenia the only nation with a bad economy? The fact is most nations on earth have serious economic problems. Is Armenia the only nation with enemies? The fact is most nations on earth have enemies.

So, what's Armenia’s real problem? Could our real problem simply be a matter of perception and/or mental conditioning? Could our people’s lack of spirit, their absence of objectivity or nationalism simply be a consequence of the ruthlessly relentless mental conditioning that has been directed against Armenia for all these years - in addition to the unresolved crisis over Nagorno Karabakh and the imposed economic blockade? Could our problems be, at least in part, as a result of the assault against Armenian ethnocentrism and nationalism in Western academia? Could our problems be, at least in part, as a result of the decades long assault the Armenian state has had to endure?

Let’s learn to accept the harsh realities of life on earth. Let's also realize that Armenia is not a fairytale land of priests, scholars and warriors (it may have been once, but it definitely has not been for the past one thousand years). After one thousand years of Islamic, Turkic, Persian and Bolshevik rule, Armenia today is a nation populated by deeply troubled and vulnerable humans. The damage caused by one thousand years of corrosive foreign rule will not be fixed in a few short years and - it will definitely not be fixed by Washingtonian officials. Let's all except the fact that Armenia will have its criminals, monopolists, drunks, murderers, prostitutes, drug addicts, traitors, homeless, transsexuals and meat eaters. For a tiny and poor country stuck in the Caucasus and fully stocked with very talented and ambitious people, Armenia will naturally have more than its fair share of opportunistic or less-than trust worthy people. As I have said in the past, Armenia is like a small pond containing many hungry sharks. The fact is these sharks are us. Our sharks are an accurate reflect of our societal character. Let's accept our reality, both good and bad, and let's try working with it.

As mentioned earlier, it is well known that Washington spends enormous sums of money on counter intelligence programs, politically driven propaganda campaigns and psychological warfare operations. It is also well known that Armenia has been one of Washington’s main targets for a long time. I personally believe that many of Armenia’s sociopolitical problems today have their roots precisely in this conditioning of the mindsets of our people. Unbeknownst to us, we are being turned against our homeland. The poisonous propaganda in question is indeed having a major impact on our nation's collective psyche. And the alarming thing here is that often times we emotionally troubled and often times self-hating compatriots are willfully or unwittingly participating in the spreading of this lethal poison in Armenia.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Everywhere I look all I see is pessimism, negativity, destructive behaviors and ugliness. It's all doom and gloom. Just look at the type of news many of us Armenians these days choose to revel in - Hazings in the Armenian military… Violence women suffer in Armenia… Mafia… Genocide... Oligarchs… Russians... The unlawful eviction of slum dweller... Genocide... The protocols... Police accesses... Genocide... Russians... Government corruption… Prostitution… Genocide... Smelly toilets in Yerevan… The flies… Russians... If the news is nasty, Armenians make sure it gets around via mouth, Facebook and emails. Although there are a lot of positive developments coming out of the nation, our peasantry only concerns itself with bad news. Not a single positive thing. It's all scaremongering and fear-mongering. And it's all very infectious.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm NOT making excuses for the bad things that occur in Armenia nor am I attempting to whitewash the accesses of our oligarchs and corrupt officials. But can we act like &@%# adults and place all this in a proper perspective? Can we get real for once? Can we act like responsible/intelligent adults and look at Armenia's problems objectively and rationally? Regarding the violence or abuse women in Armenia suffer: although I would like to see a lot changed in Armenia with regards to the way women are treated or looked at, according to what I have personally observed in the country and according to various statistical data I have read, violence against women in Armenia is not a serious problem.

Yes, let's talk about this serious problem, let's try to improve the matter - but let's not all get hysterical or demand a bloody revolution. Violence against women is actually much worst in many developed nations. Millions of women are abused and forced into prostitution, alcoholism and drug abuse in the United States alone. Regarding violence in the military: any time you put together tens of thousands of hot blooded young men with mediocre education and overflowing "Armenian" hormones - you will have violence. All military's on earth have these types of problems, some more than others. Periodic violence in the Armenian military, although normal, will gradually improve with better order enforcement, which is beginning to take place. And as far as general crime is concerned - Armenia is actually a safe-haven compared to many developed nations today. It is well established that there is a direct correlation between poverty and crime. Although a large percentage of its population lives in poverty, Armenia is amongst a handful of nations on earth where people do not fear walking the streets late at night. With time and with healthy activism, I believe Armenia's problems with abuse and violence will be taken care of. We simply need a healthy outlook and perspective.

I'm fully convinced that Armenia’s problems are not only its bad socioeconomic situation today. The real problem in Armenia today is its bad socioeconomic situation PLUS the relentless psychological warfare operations being directed against it. This is all taking a major toll on the Armenian spirit. We are placing enough emphasis criticizing and attacking our oligarchs and corrupt officials, I think now it is time we do the same with those who are using our internal problems against our state. It's time we call out those who are worsening our domestic problems through instigation and provocation. This is what all self-respecting and responsible Armenians need to do. If we are able to somehow stop the psychological warfare being directed against Armenia, we can then better cope with our domestic problems.

The sky is NOT falling in Armenia. Armenia is NOT on the verge of collapse nor is it hell on earth. Armenia is going through growing pains like all normal nations. And along the way, Armenia is being targeted by Western intelligences agencies similar to how Iran and Russia are being targeted by them. Yes, we have serious problems with our monopolists in Armenia - but our monopolists are our problem and we don't need monopolists of global proportions like Washington to help us in this regard. Yes, we have problems with criminals in Armenia - but our criminals are our problem and we don't need criminals of global proportions like Washingtonian officials helping us in this regard. Yes, we have serious problems with rampant corruption in Armenia, but these are our problem and we don't need by-far the world's most corrupt entity helping us in this regard either.

When Armenians pull their heads out of their behinds, they will realize that Armenia's numerous problems are very natural for a fledgling nation that has just woken up from nearly one thousand years of forced hibernation. Armenia's problems are very natural for a fledgling nation that is tiny, landlocked, blockaded, impoverished, resourceless and surrounded by enemies in one of the most remote and volatile locations on earth. Consequently, Armenia's growing pains will be more severe than those of others.

What Armenia's many problems need is our active, constructive and healthy participation in social and political activism. It is the duty of all self-respecting Armenians to partake in constructive criticism and healthy political activism. It is also our obligation to be patient and objective. Armenia needs a sociological/political evolution - not a Western funded revolution. What the hell is it going to take Armenians to realize that there is this effort to spread poisonous propaganda against Armenia? I want Armenians to STOP participating in the spreading of poison and I want Armenians to finally wake up to the political reality around them! Sadly, our people in and out of the homeland today comprise of ignorant chobans or self-righteous egomaniacs. Where other nations stay and fight it out, our peasantry has a tendency to cut and run. Where other nations stay and participate in nation building, our peasantry will sell anything for a visa. Where other nations rally around their homeland and fight off foreign meddling, our peasantry enthusiastically does the bidding of Armenia’s enemies.
Although I acknowledge that we are victims of psychological conditioning, I believe that our plight is also the fault of our corrupt officials and the fault of every one of us that have participated in spreading negative news concerning Armenia. If you participated, willingly or unwittingly, directly or indirectly, in spreading poisonous propaganda about Armenia - you are a fundamental part of the problem Armenia has today. I suspect that many of us participate in undermining of our nation simply due to personal and emotional reasons. Our fledgling state is stuck between its political enemies, its corrupt officials and its destructive sons and daughters...

Looking at the seriousness of the global situation we are in currently, as much as I wouldn't want to see it happen, perhaps the best thing for Armenia to do right now is to shed several hundred thousand more of its citizens to release some of its pressure. I reluctantly say this because I really don't see a quick end to the global mess we are in. I don’t see our enemies stopping their assaults against us. I don't see our peasantry engaging in healthy or constructive activism and I don't see our nation’s hungry sharks eating their fill and beginning to give a little back. Having dealt with all kinds of Armenians for most of my adult life, I have come to this realization: Armenians are maximalists in all they do, especially when it comes to screwing someone or something. Therefore, I don't expect our peasantry to snap out of their stupor until they have totally burned down their dilapidated village. I don't expect our hungry sharks to stop eating until they explode. And I don't expect our foreign agents/mercenaries to stop their work against Armenia until the nation is destroyed.

If this situation continues indefinitely, if we can't finally get our house into order and our act straight - it's better and safer to simply handover the house keys to Moscow, again.

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There was another bust of Armenian “gangs” recently. All the major newspapers were howling - Armenian Gangs!!! The criminals that were caught in LA do not concern me here. This matter actually goes way beyond the individuals that were caught. Has anyone ever seen these “law-enforcers” in America busting “xxxish” gangs in Brooklyn, in LA, in Wall Street or in Washington? Fact is all nations have gangs, criminals, mafias, oligarchs… Armenia is no different. Our mafia actually pales in comparison to other mafias in America. Our oligarchs in Armenia actually pale in comparison to oligarchs found in other nations - including western nations. And all the mafias, gangs and criminals in America combined pale in comparison to criminals in Washington and Wall Street. All the world’s monopolists, oligarchs and dictators combined pale in comparison to those found in Washington. The high intensity psychological warfare campaign against Armenia is continuing full force. They want us to think that Armenia is run by criminals… Armenia will soon collapse… Armenian “mafia” in America is somehow more powerful or more dangerous than gangs of Mexicans, Blacks, Colombians, Italians, White Nationalists, Chinese, Irish, Vietnamese, xxxish, Jamaicans, Albanians… They are slowly turning the very word “Armenian” into something negative. It’s all political. Wake up Armenians! It’s all a part of their relentless psyops against us. The intent is to break our spirit and our will. And it’s working. Armenians have never been this demoralized, this hopeless, this morbid and this negative. What the nearly 1000 officers involved in the busts in LA needed to have done instead was go to Brooklyn and shutdown one of the country’s worst criminal organizations, the xxxish mafia (although the xxxish controlled news media in America calls it the Russian mafia).

Arevordi

February, 2011

Read full post here;

http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/

[Mos]

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Great article Tigran, I fully agree with this article and believe more Armenians should read this. I will try to send it around. Though one thing I disagree with is handing the house keys to Moscow, even if the situation becomes worse, we should never give our independence to anybody, and fight with all our strength to make sure there is always a free and independent Armenia.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Great article Tigran, I fully agree with this article and believe more Armenians should read this. I will try to send it around. Though one thing I disagree with is handing the house keys to Moscow, even if the situation becomes worse, we should never give our independence to anybody, and fight with all our strength to make sure there is always a free and independent Armenia.

It is indeed an inspiring and great article, I am also sending this to as many friends as I know. I think he is just making a point in handing our keys to Moscow, as he is the last person who wants us to lose our independence. But, don't talk about the negatives, but the positives!

I recommend everyone to read theriseofrussia.blogspot.com, Arevordi writes amazingly informative, unbiased and realistic articles.

[Joseph]

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It is indeed an inspiring and great article, I am also sending this to as many friends as I know. I think he is just making a point in handing our keys to Moscow, as he is the last person who wants us to lose our independence. But, don't talk about the negatives, but the positives!

I recommend everyone to read theriseofrussia.blogspot.com, Arevordi writes amazingly informative, unbiased and realistic articles.

I agree and I'm a big fan of his.