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  • Re: Armenia and the information war

    Last edited by Federate; 04-23-2011, 06:04 AM.

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    • Re: Armenia and the information war

      I love how news.am is mocking them in the last paragraph
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      Turkish newspaper presents Nakhchivan as part of Armenia


      April 23, 2011 | 14:57

      An English-language Turkey-based Hurriyet Daily News & Economic Review newspaper included Nakhchivan in the territory of Armenia.

      In a map posted on their website the authors decided to present the main river basins. In the section “Regionscape” Nakhchivan is presented as a part of Armenia.

      Azerbaijani media is usually very sensitive about such “oversights”. In general Baku responds to such “mistakes” made by European states and Russia by filing complaints. In this case it is more difficult as the error is done by fraternal and friendly Turkey.


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      • Re: Armenia and the information war

        Look how large European newspapers write about the Armenian genocide, look at the quotation marks; "genocide", piece of **** hypocrites.



        And look how Russian news agencies write about the Armenian genocide, without the "quote".

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          Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
          Look how large European newspapers write about the Armenian genocide, look at the quotation marks; "genocide", piece of **** hypocrites.



          And look how Russian news agencies write about the Armenian genocide, without the "quote".

          http://www.rnw.nl/english/bulletin/a...y-wwi-genocide
          AFP are a French Zionist outlet and it's worth keeping in mind that Armenia is an ally of both Russia and Iran.

          As for the Russian media; they aren't credible as they spin the news far to much and only have a limited international audience.

          Obama shuns 'genocide' label for Armenian killings

          WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama marked Saturday the anniversary of the 1915 massacre of Armenians by Ottoman Turks, calling for a "full" acknowledgement of the killings hotly contested by Ankara.

          While denouncing the "horrific events" of 96 years ago, Obama stopped short of labeling the killings a "genocide," despite vowing to use that exact term during his 2008 run for the White House.

          "I have consistently stated my own view of what occurred in 1915, and my view of that history has not changed," the president said in a White House statement on Armenian Remembrance Day.

          "A full, frank, and just acknowledgement of the facts is in all our interests."

          In implicitly pleading for Turkey's recognition of the killings, he stressed that "contested history destabilizes the present and stains the memory of those whose lives were taken, while reckoning with the past lays a sturdy foundation for a peaceful and prosperous shared future."

          The Armenian Assembly of America, a group promoting US-Armenian ties, was not satisfied with Obama's carefully worded statement, calling it a "missed opportunity" and saying "we expect the president to honor his prior commitments and statements."

          http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...96ca41ee92.5a1

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          • Re: Armenia and the information war

            This is what Azeris wish they did

            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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              If you guys have Twitter, everyone's trying to get #ArmenianGenocide to trend. So get on it and post useful facts or links on the Armenian Genocide and end your Tweet with the hashtagged #ArmenianGenocide
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              • Re: Armenia and the information war

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                This is what Azeris wish they did

                looks like its going to be a comedy
                they shoot the ground, 5 people die.

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                  We're getting coverage on Al Jazeera! And I don't see quotation marks around the word genocide! Take that lousy Western POS... go Al Jazeera!
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                  Obama fails to brand Armenia deaths genocide


                  US president avoids term genocide for third straight year as he honours 1.5m Armenians slaughtered under Ottoman Empire.

                  Barack Obama, the US president, has for the third straight year failed to brand the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks genocide despite repeatedly vowing while campaigning to get elected that he would do so.

                  Obama honoured Armenian victims - mostly Christians numbering 1.5 million - on the anniversary of their massacre in the World War I but only confined himself to using the Armenian name for the slaughter, Meds Yeghern, paying tribute "to the memories of those who perished".

                  The president said the 1915 killings represent "one of the worst atrocities of the 20th century".

                  As a candidate in 2008, Obama said he would ensure "a principled commitment to commemorating and ending genocide". But since 2009, the president has declined to use "genocide" in the face of furious resistance from Turkey, a key NATO ally.

                  He insisted his view of what took place has not changed since the campaign, adding: "A full, frank, and just acknowledgement of the facts is in all our interests."

                  Ankara's ambassador in Washington promptly rejected Obama's criticism.

                  "We deeply regret that POTUS [Obama's] statement on 1915 events reflect an inaccurate, flawed and one-sided political characterization of history," Namik Tan tweeted, calling the comments "unacceptable" and "unwarranted".

                  "The US should encourage normalization and dialogue and not hamper it with one-sided & politically motivated statements."

                  Most historians see the killings as the first genocide of the 20th century, and accept the figure of 1.5 million Armenian deaths.

                  But Turkish leaders have long rejected the term, contending the figures are inflated and saying there were many deaths on both sides as the Ottoman Empire collapsed during World War I.

                  Turkish version of events

                  Turkey maintains some 300,000 to 500,000 Armenians got killed and at least as many Turks died in civil strife when Armenians rose up against their Ottoman rulers and sided with invading Russian forces.

                  Countries that have formally recognised the genocide against the Armenians include Argentina, Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Russia and Uruguay.

                  Britain, the US and Israel are among those that use different terminology to describe the events.

                  Last year, ahead of the 95th anniversary of the massacre, Turkey recalled its ambassador from the US and condemned a Washington panel's move to declare the killings a genocide.

                  The move came after the US House of Representatives' foreign affairs committee passed a non-binding measure in a 23-22 vote, calling on the Obama administration to ensure US policy formally referred to the mass killings as genocide.

                  In his statement, Obama said "contested history destabilizes the present and stains the memory of those whose lives were taken". He said America knows this from the dark chapters in its own history.

                  He praised efforts in Armenia and Turkey "to foster a dialogue that acknowledges their common history".

                  Obama's comments followed a rally of 10,000 Armenians in the capital Yerevan on Saturday demanding that Turkey recognise the genocide.

                  The protest, organised by the influential Armenian Revolutionary Federation political party, attracted hordes of youths who marched with candles up to a hillock in Yerevan, consecrated to the memory of the victims.

                  The protesters held up banners saying: "Armenia wants Turkey to own up."

                  "Turkey stole from us our historic land, our monuments and our future," a party lawmaker, Vaghan Hovhannessian, said.

                  Turkey and Armenia signed landmark protocols in 2009, under Swiss mediation, which were a first step towards ending decades of hostility.

                  The persecutions are commemorated every year on April 24. On that day in 1915, more than 200 Armenian intellectuals and community leaders were arrested in Constantinople, or present-day Istanbul.

                  That was followed by a wave of massacres and deportations which continued until 1917.

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                  Last edited by Federate; 04-23-2011, 11:18 PM.
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                  • Re: Armenia and the information war

                    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                    looks like its going to be a comedy
                    they shoot the ground, 5 people die.
                    at least they depict that azeri soldier accurately (as a scared whimp!)
                    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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                    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                    • Re: Armenia and the information war

                      Originally posted by Federate View Post
                      Of course they can. Is he seriously going to convince us that the mighty US with all its satellites and technology cannot find a before and after photo of the Julfa destruction?
                      Do you think that the Armenia republic, with all its access to satellite-for-hire imagery, is incapable of doing that itself? Or will you accept the actual explanation - that the current regime in Armenia, and those diaspora organisations that are its allies, have, for years, been active in discouraging investigation of the incident, and that foreign observers, agencies, and diplomats, faced with that fact, and the fact that in other fields they are daily accosted by assorted Armenian nutters who think their opinions should be the center of attention, decide "why bother?".
                      Last edited by bell-the-cat; 04-24-2011, 05:26 AM.
                      Plenipotentiary meow!

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