Armenia and the information war

[Eddo211]

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The Republican Conference on History and Culture: Against Falsehood and Aggression. Has Been Launched

2011-05-04



On May 4 the conference on "History and Culture: Against Falsehood and Aggression" has been launched in the ARM Defense Ministry with the participation of distinguished figures from the sphere of history and culture, scientists and university rectors. The conference is organized by the initiative of the Public Council adjacent to the Defense Ministry.
After the opening speech of the Head of the Social Council Gegham Harutyunyan, the Ministers of Defense, Education and Science, Culture, the President of the National Academy of Sciences, and the interim rector of Yerevan State University made welcome speeches.

Emphasizing the importance of the conference, Minister Seyran Ohanyan particularly said: "Armenian scientific potential must have and express its definite approach towards the distortion of the history and culture by Azerbaijan.” The Minister of Education and Science Armen Ashotyan said: "No coincidence that the historical and cultural issues are discussed in the Defense Ministry, as they are linked to the national security problems".

During the three-day conference, the presented 37 reports are to be discussed.

http://www.mil.am/1304536414

[bell-the-cat]

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Emphasizing the importance of the conference, Minister Seyran Ohanyan particularly said: "Armenian scientific potential must have and express its definite approach towards the distortion of the history and culture by Azerbaijan.” The Minister of Education and Science Armen Ashotyan said: "No coincidence that the historical and cultural issues are discussed in the Defense Ministry, as they are linked to the national security problems".

During the three-day conference, the presented 37 reports are to be discussed.

http://www.mil.am/1304536414

If they are serious in this much needed response, then they have also to safeguard their rear. It is impossible to effectively oppose Azerbaijani nationalist propagandists while the exact equivalents in Armenia (by which I mean the likes of Armen Ayvazyan) are allowed to continue their activities unopposed. You cannot convincingly argue for truthfulness in the representation of history and culture and at the same time tolerate certain individuals just because they are "your" liars and not "their" liars.

[Eddo211]

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If they are serious in this much needed response, then they have also to safeguard their rear. It is impossible to effectively oppose Azerbaijani nationalist propagandists while the exact equivalents in Armenia (by which I mean the likes of Armen Ayvazyan) are allowed to continue their activities unopposed. You cannot convincingly argue for truthfulness in the representation of history and culture and at the same time tolerate certain individuals just because they are "your" liars and not "their" liars.

You missed the message of the article.....this has officially become a national security issue, all you claims are irrelevent.

We also don't need to "convincingly argue for truthfulness in the representation of history and culture" as you put it, and be defensive......truth and history is on our side jingles.
however we do need to increase our offensive on this information war as it is being suguested.


btw, Killdim cartoons are actually working good, for what is was ment to be.

[bell-the-cat]

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You missed the message of the article.....this has officially become a national security issue, all you claims are irrelevent.

We also don't need to "convincingly argue for truthfulness in the representation of history and culture" as you put it, and be defensive......truth and history is on our side

I've given this advice before - I don't expect you to understand it, but I'll give it again for the sake of those who are clever enough to get it.

Never take at face value things Armenians claim to be true: because they are convinced right is on their side (and in most cases right is on their side), they seem to think they don't need to worry about trivial things like being correct. Being right doesn't mean you have left behind the responsibility to also be accurate!

[Eddo211]

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I've given this advice before - I don't expect you to understand it, but I'll give it again for the sake of those who are clever enough to get it.

Never take at face value things Armenians claim to be true: because they are convinced right is on their side (and in most cases right is on their side), they seem to think they don't need to worry about trivial things like being correct. Being right doesn't mean you have left behind the responsibility to also be accurate!

This is epic....advise on being acurate from jingle bells who goes around miquoting people. You have just about lost any little credibility you ever held here in this forum.
Coyote meat.....keep editing your posts.

[Mos]

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Shame...need more security...

Henaran.am information website subjected to 3rd hacker attack
May 7, 2011 - 15:08 AMT
PanARMENIAN.Net - Recently, Henaran.am information website was subjected to hacker attack. Hackers posted “There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Messenger” Islamic commandment d on website homepage, Henaran press club reported.
Several months ago, the website was hacked by Azerbaijanis. Henaran report does not rule out that Azeri hackers are behind current attack, with a wrongly spelled text to prove the supposition.
In a conversation with a PanARMENIAN.Net reporter, media security expert Samvel Martirosyan expressed doubts over the hackers’ targeting the information content, since the website is purely Armenian. “Considering the website has been hacked thrice over the half year, security strengthening is a must. Attackers often target easily hacked sites. So at present, it’s unimportant who the hackers are,” he said.

[bell-the-cat]

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This is epic....advise on being acurate from jingle bells who goes around miquoting people. You have just about lost any little credibility you ever held here in this forum.
Coyote meat.....keep editing your posts.

I did say that you were the type of person who would not understand. Propaganda produced by idiots like you is always easy to expose. So if your equivalents in Armenia are going to be producing lies about "historical and cultural issues" it will give me pleasure to expose them.

[ninetoyadome]

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Trend Daily News (Azerbaijan)
May 7, 2011 Saturday 10:34 AM GMT +4


Azerbaijani Institute of History supports replacement of history
textbooks for secondary schools


Azerbaijan, Baku, May 7/ Trend, T. Hajiyev /

New studies and knowledge on the Azerbaijani history should be
included in history books, director of the Institute of History of the
Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences (ANAS), MP Yagub Mahmudov
said.

He said that fundamental studies on the history of the Irevan Khanate
have been recently held.

"In addition, studies have been held on the history of Karabakh and it
was proved that the Armenians are not natives of these territories.
They moved here after the Russian Empire occupied Azerbaijan.
Important documents on the history of Borchali, Derbent and South
Azerbaijan have been revealed and these documents must also be
included in the textbooks,"(In other words, these are "historic" azeri land) Mahmudov said.

Today, Azerbaijan excels Armenia in the information war, he said.

"They no longer see themselves as the ancient people of the South
Caucasus. Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian said recently that
the Azerbaijani historians allegedly distort Armenia's history. We
study and demonstrate our history to all, and they are worried about
it," Mahmudov said.

The conflict between the two South Caucasus countries began in 1988
when Armenia made territorial claims against Azerbaijan. Armenian
armed forces have occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan since 1992,
including the Nagorno-Karabakh region and 7 surrounding districts.

Azerbaijan and Armenia signed a ceasefire agreement in 1994. The
co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group - Russia, France, and the U.S. - are
currently holding the peace negotiations.

Armenia has not yet implemented the U.N. Security Council's four
resolutions on the liberation of the Nagorno-Karabakh and the
surrounding regions.

http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg373264.html

[Eddo211]

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I. Propaganda produced by idiots like you is always easy to expose.

Damn, and without you exposing my propaganda I would have succeeded in my plans here on this forum.
You should get the Hyeclub award for your outstanding performance and fighting evil doers like me.

[ninetoyadome]

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Armenia 'to strike at civilian targets' to provoke retaliation
Tue 10 May 2011 12:02 GMT | 5:02 Local Time
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Rasim Musabeyov
News.Az interviews political scientist Rasim Musabeyov, a non-partisan member of parliament.
Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan said recently that Azerbaijan is protracting resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and that Baku is waiting for the right time to begin a new military game. Why did Armenia make the accusation against Azerbaijan now?

Yerevan is aiming to obtain one part of the occupied lands of Azerbaijan in exchange for the liberation of another part. Serzh Sargsyan cannot say this outright because it would constitute both a blatant and flagrant violation of international law and a call to recognize Armenia’s right to seize the land of other states.

That is why Armenia is beginning to create confusion. Anyway, when Armenia begins to talk that way, no-one listens, and in this case Sargsyan is simply talking nonsense, if he thinks that he can convince anyone.

May the “sniper war” between Azerbaijan and Armenia lead to large-scale military hostilities?

If you look in the archives about the numerous cases of ceasefire violations, skirmishes between the parties and loss of life, we can see that there has always been such a "war" on the front line.

There have been even more dangerous incidents involving the penetration of military intelligence, and, on the other hand, numerous casualties. Therefore, I would not dramatize the situation. However, the fact is that there is no peace and these shootings may lead to large-scale fighting at any time.

I believe the background to the contact line between the troops should serve as a sharp reminder to those countries that the current occupation of Azerbaijani land cannot continue any longer and that unacceptable solutions cannot be imposed on Azerbaijan involving the infringement of its territorial integrity.
May third countries engage in a new Karabakh war?

I think that these states will do anything to prevent the conflict reaching a "hot phase" and, if it does, they will do everything to ensure that it remains local and to stop it as soon as possible. Therefore, it is hypothetical that Russia and Turkey will get involved in this conflict. The Armenians are frightened about this as they understand that they will not be able to withstand fairly long military confrontation with Azerbaijan in view of the sharp differences in demographic and economic spheres.

Given that Armenia's transport communication is sufficiently vulnerable, it will even be difficult for them to get arms to the front. In this regard, we can state that Armenia itself plans to play some sort of a game.

Armenia plans to strike at civilian targets and Azerbaijan's oil infrastructure in order to provoke retaliation, and then turn to Russia for help and require compliance with the military agreement between Yerevan and Moscow.

The essence of the prevention of war is to avoid this scenario, but at the same time it is a reality that Azerbaijan has strengthened both economically and militarily and the geopolitical weight of the country has increased against the backdrop of the demographic, economic and military downturn in Armenia.

The US ambassador to Azerbaijan, Matthew Bryza, said recently that the OSCE Minsk Group co-chairs were developing new proposals to solve the Karabakh conflict which would include the principles of territorial integrity and self-determination. In what way can these principles be united? Will they preserve Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity?

Bryza said nothing new. Neither of these principles precludes the other. The international principle of self-determination of peoples does not provide for secession from a state. In other words, the right of nations to self-determination does not deny the principle of maintaining territorial integrity.

Lala B.
News.Az