Armenia and the information war

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenia and the information war

Totally agreed.



The world knows very well Nagorno-Karabakh is not part of Azerbaijan, it can be inside their 'internationally recognized borders' and be 'de jure' part of it, but that territory is independent and sharing a long history, culture, morals and values with Armenia, hence it is considered as part of the Armenian people's state as a whole.

As time passed, more and more international media present this truth, and of course the Azeries are going to keep complaining and winning and sending letters and threatening to damage the bilateral relationships and everything they want. They can hide and distort the truth in Azerbaijan and Turkey, but they can't do such thing in the world media, at least not in all, because sooner or later, the truth shines glorious over any of those manufactured lies.

Most of the world doesn't know what Nagorno-Karabakh or Azerbaijan is. (In reference to Europe and the Americas)

As long as our knowledge is shared between one another and our voices are louder than the popular media, we CAN make a difference. Just like Fed did with his investigative work, we can work to reverse the lies and fabrications that are being used against our people, history and heritage.

Awesome work Fed.

[ninetoyadome]

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azeris claim they killed an Armenian soldier

Azerbnaijani media misrepresent developments on contact line
20.01.2010 21:25 GMT+04:00
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ On January 20, 10:00 a.m. a fire regime violation was registered on Azerbaijani-Karabakh contact line.

As informed by Armenian servicemen, a conflict between 7 Azeris in Fizuli direction of the line grew into a scuffle which was followed by firearm shootings. Some time later, the aggrieved Azeri was moved from the scene in an ambulance.

However, a few minutes after the incident, Azerbaijani media released a statement saying that an armed Armenian was allegedly killed in Fizuli direction, while attempting to cross the contact line.

Commenting upon the above mentioned, NKR Defense Ministry Spokesman, Colonel Senor Asatrryan said that such information is Azerbaijan’s successive attempt to disseminate distorted facts.

According to NKR Defense Ministry’s press service, fire regime violation was registered on Azerbaijani Karabakh contact line on the night of January 20. After NKR Defense Army’s taking proper measures, the enemy was silenced.

The Nagorno Karabakh Republic (NKR) is a de facto independent republic located in the South Caucasus, bordering by Azerbaijan to the north and east, Iran to the south, and Armenia to the west.

After the Soviet Union established control over the area, in 1923 it formed the Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Oblast (NKAO) within the Azerbaijan SSR. In the final years of the Soviet Union, Azerbaijan launched an ethnic cleansing which resulted in the Karabakh War that was fought from 1991 to 1994.

Since the ceasefire in 1994, most of Nagorno Karabakh and several regions of Azerbaijan around it (the security zone) remain under the control of Nagorno Karabakh defense army.

Armenia and Azerbaijan have since been holding peace talks mediated by the OSCE Minsk Group.

[Tigranakert]

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Azerbaijan remembers Martyrs' Day

By Tom Esslemont
BBC News, South Caucasus correspondent

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Azerbaijan is marking the 20th anniversary of the day when Soviet troops fired on the citizens of its capital, Baku, killing 137 people.

The dead, and 600 who were wounded, are being remembered in a national holiday.

Now known as Martyrs' Day, 20 January became etched into the minds of Azeris as one of the country's bloodiest.

The heavy-handed tactics were condemned by members of the Soviet establishment and marked the beginning of the end of Soviet rule in the country.

January 1990 was a pivotal month in the Azeri struggle for independence.

As the Soviet Union began to collapse from the inside, the Caucasian states began to tear away from Moscow's rule.

Clashes between Armenians and Azeris had already started in the mountainous region of Nagorno Karabakh - a territory which is still in dispute.

The Soviet army was sent in with the aim of ending clashes and to put down a separatist insurrection by Azeri nationalists.

It did not work.

The sound of gunfire could be heard across Baku and soon a military curfew was imposed.

It was yet another crisis for the embattled Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev to deal with.

Territorial warfare between Christian Armenians and mainly Muslim Azerbaijan raged for a further four years.

Failing to mention the real reason why the Soviet Troops intervened, namely the slaughter and killing of the Armenians (this is journalism, Onnik Krikorian style). It is also our fault that we do not raise this issue and neglect the Armenians refugees from Baku. Hopefully this will change in the near future!

[ninetoyadome]

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Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry comments on next disinformation by Armenian media
Thu 21 January 2010 | 10:59 GMT Text size:


Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry
The Defense Ministry has fixed no information about the incident between the Azerbaijani services in the front line, Teymur Abdullayev.

Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry has commented on the information in Armenian mass media about the alleged shooting between the Azerbaijani servicemen on the front line.

"The Defense Ministry has fixed no information about the incident between the Azerbaijani services in the front line. If anything had occurred, we would have been informed about it. Therefore, I consider it necessary to note that this is the next disinformation by Armenian mass media", deputy spokesman for Azerbaijan's Defense Ministry Teymur Abdullayev has said.

Armenian mass medias decided to spread disinformation after the information on killing of an Armenian servicemen during the night shooting on the front line. In particular, Novosti-Armenia has already spread information referring to Karabakh servicemen who "witnessed the fighting between Azerbaijani soldiers with a lethal outcome".

1 news.az

[Federate]

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Moheet.com marks Nakhijevan as Armenia’s territory

22.01.2010 14:44 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Egyptian Moheet.com portal published a map on which Nagorno Karabakh and Nakhichevan are marked as a part of Armenia while Turkey’s borders are outlined in compliance with the Treaty of Sevres. The map was posted as illustration for an article about Azerbaijan and Egyptian cinema week in Baku, freelance French journalist Jean Eckian told PanARMENIAN.Net.

Baku has already addressed an official protest note to the Egyptian Foreign Ministry.

Georgia also received a protest note over a billboard (in the town of Rustavi), featuring Nakhijevan under the Armenian flag.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=41955

[ninetoyadome]

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Moheet.com marks Nakhijevan as Armenia’s territory

22.01.2010 14:44 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Egyptian Moheet.com portal published a map on which Nagorno Karabakh and Nakhichevan are marked as a part of Armenia while Turkey’s borders are outlined in compliance with the Treaty of Sevres. The map was posted as illustration for an article about Azerbaijan and Egyptian cinema week in Baku, freelance French journalist Jean Eckian told PanARMENIAN.Net.

Baku has already addressed an official protest note to the Egyptian Foreign Ministry.

Georgia also received a protest note over a billboard (in the town of Rustavi), featuring Nakhijevan under the Armenian flag.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=41955

azeris love xxxxxing dont they
thats all they appear to do, they look around the world, oh a 2 year old colored karabakh and nakichevan the same color as Armenia we better protest and get that 2 year old kicked out of school immediately.

[Federate]

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Where is Armenia to counter this?
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Embassy: Egypt's news website distorting Azerbaijan's map apologizes

23.01.2010 17:07

Embassy: Egypt's news website distorting Azerbaijan's map apologizes

Azerbaijan, Baku, Jan. 23 / Trend News U. Sadikhova /

Egyptian news website Moheet.com apologized for the erroneous representation of Azerbaijan's map, the Azerbaijani embassy in Egypt said today.

The author said that she found Azerbaijan's map in the search system of Google, and did not know that it is distorted.

"The journalist apologized for accidentally mistake and assured that she will be more careful in such sensitive issues. The embassy will received an official letter of apology from a head of the website on Sunday," the report said.


Azerbaijan's Embassy in Cairo has send a note of protest to Egypt's Foreign Ministry, as well as the Ministry of Communications and Technologies in this regards.

Egyptian news website Moheet.com has published an article about Azerbaijan, in which Nagorno-Karabakh and Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic have been included in the territory of Armenia.

The article said about holding the Week of Egyptian cinema in Baku.

The conflict between the two South Caucasus countries began in 1988 when Armenia made territorial claims against Azerbaijan. Armenian armed forces have occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan since 1992, including the Nagorno-Karabakh region and 7 surrounding districts. Azerbaijan and Armenia signed a ceasefire agreement in 1994.

The co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group - Russia, France, and the U.S. - are currently holding the peace negotiations.

http://en.trend.az/regions/met/arabicr/1624545.html

[ninetoyadome]

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Ancient maps found in Egypt show Armenia was too far from its present territory - PHOTO

[ 25 Jan 2010 16:23 ]


Baku. Kamala Guliyeva – APA. Director of the Institute of Oriental Studies of Azerbaijan National Academy of Sciences Govhar Bakhshaliyeva found out in Dar Al-Kutub library of Egypt valuable maps important for Azerbaijan’s history. Spokesman for the Institute Vugar Mammadov told APA that Govhar Bakhshaliyeva found out five maps important for Azerbaijan’s history, took their photos and brought to Baku. Mammadov said that the maps show that Armenia was too far from its present territory, in the south.

He said one of the maps was published by A.Tarid in Boulevard Saint Denis early in the past century. The map prepared to show the railways and navigation lines covers European and Asian countries. The territory of the state described on the west coasts of the Caspian Sea and presented as Azerbaijan on the map coincides with the territory of Azerbaijan People’s Republic (1918-1920). The disputable areas are also presented as Azerbaijan’s territory on Tarid’s map. The map confirms that Nagorno Karabakh, including Shusha belong to Azerbaijan and also shows Derbent, Gasimkend and upper territories as Azerbaijan’s territory.

The western border passes through the Goyce Lake. The regions of modern Armenia – Mehri, Gafan, Gorus, Sisyan, Vardenis, Krasnoselsk, as well as part of Berd region, are shown as the Azerbaijani territory. Another map shows Iranian territory after the Gulustan and Turkmenchay treaties. The map was drawn up in Farsi and toponym of Azerbaijan is shown over the territory from the banks of Araz River until the Iraqi borders. The mountains of Ahar, Marand, Savalan, Lake of Urmia, cities of Maraga, Mahabad, Maku, Khoy, Ardabil, Miyana, Tebriz and others are shown in the territory of Azerbaijan.

The third map was drawn up in 1785 in Venice, Italy. It was called as “Empire of Alexander the Great”, which covers Europe, Africa and Asia. The map was drawn up in Italian by Antonio Zatta and his sons. Albania was shown in the western coast of Caspian Sea. Araz River located in the south. Armenian was shown not as the state, but only as geographic territory in very south of Araz River, in neighborhood with Assyria and Mesopotamia.

The next two maps were drawn up in Amsterdam, the Netherlands during the Ottoman Emperor Mehmet III (1595-1603). It was drawn up by the artist Jydykus, Hindius. Another map was drawn up and printed by the artist Friedrich de Wit in 1775. The maps show Armenian territories far from their present location in the south and having no relation to the territory of modern Armenia. De Wit also noticed the toponym of Shirvan in the territory of Azerbaijan in his map.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=114608

here are the "historic" maps


i like how they highlighted what the border is


you cant even tell xxxx from these maps

[ashot24]

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Ancient maps found in Egypt show Armenia was too far from its present territory - PHOTO

[ 25 Jan 2010 16:23 ]

here are the "historic" maps


i like how they highlighted what the border is


you cant even tell xxxx from these maps

My God they are stupid...
Those maps would be describing either the Kingdom of Armenia, with Armenian Major (Greater Armenia) and Armenian Minor (Lesser Armenia), or the Historical/Geographic place of the Armenian Highland, homeland of the Armenian people, both of which comprehend that territory.

Here we have other map:


Leave them with their beliefs and silly interpretations.
It's their terribly interpreted maps supporting their ""history"", against the many historical maps, descriptions, supporting the centuries old history of Armenia. One of the most valuable, is the two millenniums old description of Armenia by Strabo in his geography.

I ask them, where was "Azerbaijan" back then?

[ninetoyadome]

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My God they are stupid...
Those maps would be describing either the Kingdom of Armenia, with Armenian Major (Greater Armenia) and Armenian Minor (Lesser Armenia), or the Historical/Geographic place of the Armenian Highland, homeland of the Armenian people, both of which comprehend that territory.

Here we have other map:


Leave them with their beliefs and silly interpretations.
It's their terribly interpreted maps supporting their ""history"", against the many historical maps, descriptions, supporting the centuries old history of Armenia. One of the most valuable, is the two millenniums old description of Armenia by Strabo in his geography.

I ask them, where was "Azerbaijan" back then?

i remember one azeri told me that the reason Strabo didnt talk about azeris was because Greeks hate Turks and azeris