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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
Military exercises in the NKR:
Military exercises in the NKR:
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
"Gh" is just the guttural way that "k" is pronounced by many people in eastern Turkey and the Caucasus. As well as meaning black, "kara" is also used a noun, meaning a big expanse of land or something substantial in size.Originally posted by Army View PostLast edited by bell-the-cat; 10-26-2009, 07:05 PM.Plenipotentiary meow!Comment
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia
The Armenian-Russian exercise in Armenia "Atom-Аntiterror 2006"
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia
The Armenian-Russian exercise in Armenia "Atom-Аntiterror 2006"
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia
The Armenian-Russian exercise in Armenia "Atom-Аntiterror 2006"
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
Armenia should retaliate for such a treat
Azeri Defense Minister Warns Sarkisian
By Asbarez Staff on Oct 29th, 2009 and filed under Armenia, Azerbaijan, Featured Story, International, Karabakh, News, Top Stories.
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BAKU (APA)—Azeri defense minister Safar Abiyev Thursday warned Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian about his recent visit to the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.
“This will be his last visit there,” Abiyev told reporters adding that Sarkisian had no right to visit what he termed “occupied lands.”
In speaking about the combat readiness of the Azeri military, Abiyev said “the Armed Forces are capable of liberating the occupied lands.”
“We are aware of everything that has happened. The enemy cannot be active,” warned Abiyev when asked about last week’s exercises in Karabakh, inspected by Sarkisian and Nagorno-Karabakh Republic President Bako Sahakian.
Abiyev also told reporters that the Turkish defense minister was scheduled to visit Baku on November 2.Comment
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
I just saw this, was going to post it. Here's a link:Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
Sooo, empty tough talk or is the defense establishment getting impatient?Comment
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
i know its empty threats but still a country cant threaten the president of another country. i guess Armenia wont take it seriously because:Originally posted by Muhaha View PostI just saw this, was going to post it. Here's a link:
Sooo, empty tough talk or is the defense establishment getting impatient?
1.) azerbaijan isnt a country so a threat like this is a joke
2.) No one takes azeris seriouslyComment
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
In Armenia since 30th years of 20th century there are two strengthened areas on border with Turkey - № 7 near Gjumri and №9 near Armavir.
Strengthen the area since Soviet times. It is still supported by the Armenians, but they say they want to abandon it. A pity. Good historical monument.
Armenia's Defense Minister, visited a military unit 9 th fortified area in the Armavir region of the republic
19:20 | 11 / 03 / 2009
YEREVAN, March 11. / ARKA /. Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian, on Wednesday visited a military unit of the ninth fortified area, stationed in the Armavir region of the republic, said the agency "News-Armenia" press-secretary of Defense, Colonel Seyran Shahsuvaryan.
"During the visit, the commander of a military unit, Colonel Shakhbazyan reported to the Minister on the current state of the military unit, the existing problems and held in there construction work", - said Shahsuvaryan.
Then Ohanian, accompanied by head of the engineering troops of the Armed Forces of Armenia, Major-General Vostanik Adoyana the commander of the 5 th Army Corps, Colonel Andranik Makaryan and Head of the Department of Defense for capital construction and the quartering of troops, Colonel Armen Gevorgyan visited the battalions of the Ninth fortified area where familiarized with the process of ongoing construction work, conservation and maintenance of tank turrets, as well as the social conditions of military personnel, and discussed with relevant officers of a number of related service issues.
As part of the show Ohanian also toured an observation point on the fortified area.Comment
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
It has been just over a year since I started this thread and… already 74 pages and 1100 posts, not bad.
I want to thank all the posters for their contributions in the form of photos, articles and opinions. I would also like to thank the moderators for doing their best to keep this thread clean as much as possible.
The purpose of this thread is too keep us all aware of the military situation and military balance on the ground while keeping in mind the geopolitical situation in the Caucasus region. Being more of a military related thread, let us all refrain from politicizing it too much.
Having said all that, I think that it is about time I provide my views on the current situation and provide an update on the current situation.
ZORAVAR
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First, let us clear a couple of myths:
Myth 1: Armenians have 2 armies, the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia and the Defense forces of the independent republic of Nagorno-Karabagh.
In fact, the above applies only for arms limitations and agreements purposes. In practice there is really one army with one central command. For example, an Armenian tank can waive the flag of the Republic of Armenia in the morning, and hoist the flag of NK in the afternoon.
Myth2: The Russian air force (MiG-29s in Erebuni) and air defense batteries (Surface to air missiles in Gyumri) work independently from the Armenian air defense units.
Nothing could be further than the truth. There is only one integrated air defense command, it is a mixed Armenian-Russian one. Armenian and Russian operators are manning all the air defense assets together. All air threats will be dealt with collectively.
Now that 2009 is nearing its eleventh hour, let us see the recent developments (or lack of) in the military situation on the Artsakh front:
Apart from a few skirmishes, not much has happened on the ground. None of the sides wanted an escalation. So, no news there.
As far as military procurements are concerned,,, again, not much there . Let me elaborate a bit.
Our side is very secretive and does not provide much information about weapon acquisitions. On the other hand, the Azeris are real noisemakers boasting about huge military programs, massive defense budgets and impressive weapon acquisitions.
The economic crisis has hit both Armenia and Azerbaijan hard. We saw a decrease in economic activity in our country. Azerbaijan was hit harder. Their economy is mainly dependent on oil. They saw a huge decline in their revenues when the oil barrel went from its highs of $130 to a fraction of that (in the $30’s). Oil prices still remain volatile (currently it is hovering around $80). Of course, Aliyev had to adjust his military spending accordingly. Seeing very little novelties in the Azeri army, I can say that the military balance has hardly changed since I started this thread.
Recently, I had a whole new look at the capabilities of the Azerbaijan air force. Given the information I could gather from various open sources, I came up with the following assessment of their capabilities:
-Depending on who you listen to, the number of aircraft ordered from Ukraine ranges from 25 to 50. However, all credible reports indicate that a total of 14 have reached Azerbaijan. These are second hand (built during the 80’s) ex-Ukrainian planes that have not been refurbished and /or modernized by the MiG factory prior to delivery to the Azeris. The inspection and refurbishing done by the Ukrainians was not at a good standard. Consequently 2 of these aircraft have crashed in accidents and we haven’t seen any further deliveries. The whole thing sounds like a corrupt and suspicious deal, the assassination of the Azerbaijan air force chief earlier this year may be related to this matter.
-Some time ago, the Azeris have negotiated with Pakistan for the purchase of 26 JF-17, worth between 16 and 18 million dollars each. Nothing has been delivered…did they run out of cash? Or was this another corrupt deal?
-The whole fleet of older MiG-21 and SU-22 seems to be grounded permanently. These are very old aircraft whose airframes are probably no longer airworthy. There may be a couple of them that are still flying but they probably are more dangerous to their pilots than to an opponent.
-Only a handfull of MiG-25s are flyable (probably as little as 3). They are all built during the 70’s and don’t have much air time left.
- There are a dozen or so Su-24 fighter-bombers, but no more than 2 are ever seen flying at the same time. Maybe they don’t have enough qualified pilots for this aircraft. This type presents the most danger to us as it is a very capable plane. Fortunately, the Azeris do not have air launched smart bombs and missiles. They will have to use conventional types of weaponry.
This leaves their Su-25 ground attack planes to do the most of the job for them….and yes, that is exactly the same type of warplane that the Armenian Air Force uses.
So, practically speaking, their air force is much larger than ours …on paper. Practically, they are not that capable and any advantage that they have will be more than negated by our very capable air defense units.
By the way, here is a map showing the air defense assets of Armenia/Artsakh. Note that all of the missile batteries are mobile and their locations on the map will change accordingly.
A quick explanation:
Red : S-300V (SA-12 ) in Russian base near Gyumri
Red: S-300PT (SA-10) Near Yerevan and possible location in Artsakh
Orange : 2K12 KUB (SA-6) in Russian base near Gyumri
Purple: S-75 (SA-2)
Yellow: S-125 (SA-3)
Blue : 2K11 KRUG (SA-4)
Note that shorter range systems like the OSA (SA-8) are not shown.Last edited by ZORAVAR; 10-30-2009, 09:42 AM.Comment
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