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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    Little bit of anything from turks does not cut it.
    First Azerbaijan has to declare and sign treaty that it will not pursue any military solution to Artsakh conflict.
    Second, baku has to accept suvereinity of Artsakh with strategic lands between Armenia.
    Third, Baku has to recognise great Armenian Genocide and pogroms in 1988 of Armenians in Azerbaijan and apologise.
    Fourth, Turkey must recognise Armenian genocide and apologise and end the blockade. Otherwise the war is not over.
    Giving up any centimeter of land before theese conditions are met means that we will weaken ourselfs before both enemies without any guarantees.
    We have nothing to give to turkic world unless they change their approach to us fundamentally.
    Unless they change their approach fundamentally.
    Both this post by Hakob & the post emmediatly below by Londontsi are correct in my opinion.
    Is there something wrong with the truth now a days?
    Artashes

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      In the world nothing exists for what one would pay Armenian land
      I think it is necessary to stop the foolish talk.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by burjuin View Post
        In the world nothing exists for what one would pay Armenian land
        I think it is necessary to stop the foolish talk.
        Agree aryunov verdzrats hoge het chen at
        Exchange of land will occur during another conflict. It will never pass a referendum to seede land won with spilled blood.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Military and administrative control, the presence of the Armenian population Armenian land is primary. International recognition, agreements, pacts, genocide recognition, apologies is secondary

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by burjuin View Post
            Military and administrative control, the presence of the Armenian population Armenian land is primary. International recognition, agreements, pacts, genocide recognition, apologies is secondary
            The obvious is now in words for all to see.
            Who agrees to give their home to to murderer if that murderer will confess the truth of his crime (heinous)?
            Thank you Burjuin

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Instead of bowing down to the Turkish demands you guys should be thinking about liberating our own lands back from them....land is everything

              Commercial flights to Stepanakert must start and Serj should call Aliyev's bluff......and if they stupid enough to shoot down a commercial flight full of passengers then they will be known as state terrorists and we will have every right to push our lands further east to increase distance beyond their missile range and landing aircraft to Stepankert.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                Little bit of anything from turks does not cut it.
                First Azerbaijan has to declare and sign treaty that it will not pursue any military solution to Artsakh conflict.
                Second, baku has to accept sovereignty of Artsakh with strategic lands between Armenia.
                Third, Baku has to recognize great Armenian Genocide and pogroms in 1988 of Armenians in Azerbaijan and apologize.
                Fourth, Turkey must recognize Armenian genocide and apologize and end the blockade. Otherwise the war is not over.
                Giving up any centimeter of land before these conditions are met means that we will weaken ourselves before both enemies without any guarantees.
                We have nothing to give to turkic world unless they change their approach to us fundamentally.
                I have to add to my thoughts, Baku has to recognize 1905, 1917-1921 massacres of armenians and apologize too.
                Turkey will have to start negotiations for illegally occupied lands. At minimum for kars and Igdir regions(I am not mentioning other lands for the sake of rapprochement).
                Thurkey will have to payback for all the confiscated properites, including for homes, churches, and any other Armenian community properties to armenian people.
                Unless they do this there is nothing to talk about.
                Can turks make us feel that historic justice has been served? Anybody thinks that turks will change miraculously?

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by guess View Post
                  Baku Shipyard | Completed 2013
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                  Nice easy target for SU-25.....I say two low passes and its done.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by guess View Post
                    Azerbaijan to build warships in 2014



                    Azerbaijan will start building warships in the next year, military sources said to a local press.

                    Baku Shipyard has already submitted several projects to the naval forces for building naval ships for various purposes.
                    Once the projects are approved, the construction will begin.

                    Azerbaijan plans to increase its capacities in the Caspian Sea, and have modern ships in the framework of the navy power modernization program by 2020. A new naval base, as well as several divisions in north and south, will be created.

                    The new military base will start to operate next year, the Azerbaijan Defense Ministry told a local press. At present, construction is underway at the base in Puta in the Garadagh district of Baku, and it will be provided with modern navigation and observation systems.
                    According to the program, Azerbaijan will receive complexes "Uran-E" in 2014; Russia was commissioned with providing them for the price of $75 million in 2010, with the purpose of arming Azerbaijan's ships.

                    According to the ministry, work on the modernization of Azerbaijan's Navy in the country's territorial waters is not directed against other states.

                    Established in mid-1992, Azerbaijani Navy is now considered one of the strongest in the Caspian Sea basin, bounded by Russia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Turkmenistan, and Kazakhstan. The Azerbaijan Navy is currently led by Vice Admiral Shahin Sultanov.

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                    I am glad Azerbaijan is building a great navy that can go round the world.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      I am glad Azerbaijan is building a great navy that can go round the world.
                      Its gonna cause problems for Russia, it does not have a very powerful force in those waters. It will also mess with Kazakhstan.....
                      I hope their warships sprout wheels and drive themselves to open waters....xD
                      Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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