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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/06/wo...rder.html?_r=0


    The policy of our country is aimed at a peaceful settlement,” Col. David Davidsyan, with the Karabakh military, said in an announcement of the cease-fire. “But the Karabakh army is ready to solve this question by force if needed.”

    “Any truce is temporary,” one soldier, Pvt. Never Grigoryan, said in an interview at a Karabakh artillery position outside a ruined village, Marjalu. He stood amid a heap of empty, green wooden boxes that had held artillery shells.

    “We will be ready,” he said.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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      Man I am having goosebumps watching this video. It's genuine and it's now. The is few words I picked up. This is of interior ministry soldiers trying to stop croup of soldiers from retreating back. Their commander yells "attery vurun artery" means hit the battery (legs, buttocks?). Then they shoot one person on the left to the side of road down. This is probably to scare and make the rest to stop. But as panicking crowd spreads and runs uphill, the same voice yells to his man to run to car "quick, quick"... Now he is afraid that crowd will overrun them and take them down. Possible, he is not committed in killing everyone. Now they keep shooting at crowds direction and you her repeatedly "galma 'lan, galma 'lan" -don't come (this way) man, "geri deune 'lan"- turn around men. I can hear someone yelling "Kardash galma"-brother don't come (this way).
      It is very important here that one of the MP takes video of this on phone, apparently a whistleblower.
      This crouwd wants to conquer us?
      This proves our national belief that Turks are only good at killing and chopping kids, elderly and women. If our men stand their ground then those jackals loose their mind from fear.
      One more important thing is so far whatever our MOD tells, proves right.
      I now firmly believe that Azery loses are at least 2000
      Last edited by Hakob; 04-05-2016, 05:06 PM.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        Few things to expect from the Azerbaijani propaganda machine in the coming days.

        Azerbaijan hasn't released many photos or videos of the fighting during the war. Don't be surprised if you randomly get a flood of propaganda pictures or videos of them in our trenches or in various positions they advanced to during the mini-war. Don't be shocked at seeing pictures of our dead soldiers either. Everyone has a camera these days and we already know our casualty numbers. Also, I expect them to release videos of places like Talish or some trenches and claim that as proof they still control them. These will be old videos and should be easily refuted by our side.

        Coming back to the point of Armenian bodies, let's take a look at where the 26 missing could be. The most simple and best case scenario explanation is that they just didn't report back to HQ and they're actually safe. The most likely case is that they are all dead and their bodies either still not found and/or in Azeri hands. The absolute worst case scenario is that they are now POWs. If they're dead and their bodies are in Azeri hands, the next logical step will be a body swap between Armenia and Azerbaijan brokered by the Red Cross. If they are captives, Azerbaijan will want to trade them for the two criminals rotting in a prison in Artsakh. If this is the case, we may have to make some very tough sacrifices. Still, if Azerbaijan did indeed have them as POWs, it's extremely strange of them not to boast about it after all this time so I doubt they have them as prisoners.
        I have seen a few pictures of the dead Armenians and the pictures of Sloyan beheaded- these were all from the first morning I believe. Nothing since then. But they could be coming. Hope the missing are safe but they're most likely dead, though I must confess I fear their capture, it truly would be the worst case scenario. I agree that if they haven't paraded around prisoners yet, they do not have any prisoners to speak of.
        Last edited by Joseph; 04-05-2016, 05:09 PM.
        General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
          At 7:57 did I see azeri soldiers running?

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Hakob View Post
            Man I am having goosebumps watching this video. It's genuine and it's now. The is few words I picked up. This is of interior ministry soldiers trying to stop croup of soldiers from retreating back. Their commander yells "attery vurun artery" means hit the battery (legs, buttocks?). Then they shoot one person on the left to the side of road down. This is probably to scare and make the rest to stop. But as panicking crowd spreads and runs uphill, the same voice yells to his man to run to car "quick, quick"... Now he is afraid that crowd will overrun them and take them down. Possible, he is not committed in killing everyone. Now they keep shooting at crowds direction and you her repeatedly "galma 'lan, galma 'lan" -don't come (this way) man, "geri deune 'lan"- turn around men. I can hear someone yelling "Kardash galma"-brother don't come (this way).
            It is very important here that one of the MP takes video of this on phone, apparently a whistleblower.
            This crouwd wants to conquer us?
            This proves our national belief that Turks are only good at killing and chopping kids, elderly and women. If our men stand their ground then those jackals loose their mind from fear.
            One more important thing is so far whatever our MOD tells, proves right.
            I now firmly believe that Azery loses are at least 2000
            Considering the topographic markers, the Mount Mrav chain very clearly identifiable, the Inja river valley between Martakert and Shahumyan (left), and the buildings, this must be filmed in Taparagoyunlu village, that is facing Talish.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              I was going to post in Military Recognition: Armenia and Artsakh thread and it broth me here. why?

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Looks like that thread was moved I'am wondering Why?

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Can I steel post in Military Recognition: Armenia and Artsakh thread? Please!

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                    Man I am having goosebumps watching this video. It's genuine and it's now. The is few words I picked up. This is of interior ministry soldiers trying to stop croup of soldiers from retreating back. Their commander yells "attery vurun artery" means hit the battery (legs, buttocks?). Then they shoot one person on the left to the side of road down. This is probably to scare and make the rest to stop. But as panicking crowd spreads and runs uphill, the same voice yells to his man to run to car "quick, quick"... Now he is afraid that crowd will overrun them and take them down. Possible, he is not committed in killing everyone. Now they keep shooting at crowds direction and you her repeatedly "galma 'lan, galma 'lan" -don't come (this way) man, "geri deune 'lan"- turn around men. I can hear someone yelling "Kardash galma"-brother don't come (this way).
                    It is very important here that one of the MP takes video of this on phone, apparently a whistleblower.
                    This crouwd wants to conquer us?
                    This proves our national belief that Turks are only good at killing and chopping kids, elderly and women. If our men stand their ground then those jackals loose their mind from fear.
                    One more important thing is so far whatever our MOD tells, proves right.
                    I now firmly believe that Azery loses are at least 2000
                    My wife speaks Turkish fluently and can understand Azeri and she made it out about the same- this is authentic panic and he is imploring them to stop running away and turn back...she laughed a little
                    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Azad View Post
                      At 7:57 did I see azeri soldiers running?

                      I believe you're correct, brother
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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