Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Artashes]

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sad state of affairs... When a so called independent country can't even protect part of its borders.

Yes it is a sad state of affairs.
Neither diaspora or those at home would like it to be so.
Between the last genocide & the Russians emmediatly following + all that preceded and greed ridden oligarch and the lack of unity by a population that is not recovered from such atrocity and continuous pressure ...
We simply cannot get our footing.
We also cannot stop trying
Or it's over.
Artashes

[burjuin]

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burjuin does Armenian Army use drum magazines on AKs.....I have seen pouch mags but don't remember seeing drums.

Drum magazines uncomfortable and not ergonomic.

[londontsi]

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sad state of affairs... When a so called independent country can't even protect part of its borders.

Sadly our Generals are in the oligarchic structure.

They have businesses to run,

Its not a bad idea to outsource security of the country so the generals can spend time getting richer without distractions.

It all starts from corrupt Presidents who cannot draw the line because they are compromised themselves.

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[arakeretzig]

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It all starts from corrupt Presidents who cannot draw the line because they are compromised themselves.

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The whole goverment needs to be rinsed and flushed. The even sader part is, i think, people have given up on this.

[Haykakan]

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sad state of affairs... When a so called independent country can't even protect part of its borders.

Like i have said a million times before Armenia is independent in name only. I you cannot guarantee your own security then you are dependent not independent.

[londontsi]

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Like i have said a million times before Armenia is independent in name only. I you cannot guarantee your own security then you are dependent not independent.

And you were wrong a million times.

Armenia is an independent state.

Every country has a hierarchy of threats.
These threats are delegated depending on the capability of the country to handle.

An extreme example is European security vis-a-vi nuclear threats, logically this is “outsourced “ to the US through treaties.

The problem with Armenia is the corruption has degraded the country so much,
both financial and human resources, having been ( and are being) squandered to a level that the (present) Government cannot meet its obligations.

And YES this is a threat to our independence.



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[Hakob]

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You see guys? How did you all swallow the bait? line and hook together from HHSH. The supposed statement about not being able to defend northern borders (suggesting russian troops) comes from Levon Ter-Petrosian's party member. Please think a little as to why is he making this statement before falling into their trap.
Northern border is the border with azerbaijan. Has there been anthing between our and azery armed forces to think this way? Why would such helpless thoughts be disseminated in nation towards a neighbor that we won a war with and everything prooves that we are ready to do it again? It can be very hard to find reason for such a talk if past 24 years are taken into account. Doesn't jan 20th mean anything?
They like to try to make population to doubt their own army and feel helpless against a neighbor that in reality every citizen should feel superior against and be ready to smash any attempts of transgession. Feel desperate and helpless, so everything can be pushed to collapse and internal hienas can have their fill right?
Here is our centuries old "prooven" formula for defeats and treasons.
This time the problem is about some circles spreading doubts and misstrust into the one and only structure that Armenia has had going very strong. The army.
If the issue was about corruption, then why is LTP party so impotent against corrupt government circles now? Why this party does not impress with it's own clean ethincs and history? A "leader",levon, who created and shaped this very government into such a corrupt structure himself in his time, and now is making such statements about army?
How else can a politician stab the country in back?
I have a neigbor, an American korea war veteran, a military man that spent a life in US armed forces, with whom I have been discussing world matters from time to time. He is aware about Armenia and happenings in region. Lately, we seem to disagree a bit about Syria, LOL. But anyway. Once in the past he started making calculations about Armenia's future regarding military matters. His thoughts were that there would be no problem for Armenia defending against azerbaijan. But when talking about turkey, he thought that calculating turkey's geography and Armenia's landlocked position, the fact that turkey was a NATO member with strong military tradition and allmost 80 mln population, any country having war with turkey had to be a minimum 25-30 mln strong to have the prospect of ending it not defeated.
That is why the Russians are on our western borders. That is why we are allies.
But there is a reason, why they are not on borders with azerbaijan.
Any political entity that makes this an internal struggle issue is outright defeatist and indeed a traitor.

[burjuin]

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Armenian Army

[Artashes]

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burjuin does Armenian Army use drum magazines on AKs.....I have seen pouch mags but don't remember seeing drums.

Drum magazines uncomfortable and not ergonomic.

I agree with Burjuin.
However, I like to have drum magazines in the "tool box" for suppressive fire.
They are good for dumping in their intirety to buy fellow troops TIME.
I like having several close at hand as an option in --- specific --- situations.
But like Burjuin said, not good for common use.

[burjuin]

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