Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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If true this is a disaster


Report: Armenia’s arms imports equal to only 4 percent of Azerbaijan’s
[ 16 March 2015 13:20 ]
Azerbaijan ranks second for arms imports among European countries

Baku. Agha Jafarli – APA. Arms imports have increased by 16 percent from 2010 to 2014 compared to 2005-2009, according to the report of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), APA reports.

According to the report, the United States, Russia, China, Germany and France are the top arms exporters worldwide – 74 percent of the world’s weapons sales.

The US and Russia make 58 percent of weapons imports worldwide.

The United States sells arms to 94 countries.

Azerbaijan is mentioned in the “arms imports” section of the report.

Azerbaijan is a country in conflict with Armenia, and the tension between the two countries escalated in 2014. Compared to 2005-2009, Azerbaijan increased weapons imports by 249 percent in 2010-2014. The UK was the largest weapons importer in Europe (receiving 14 percent of deliveries), followed by Azerbaijan (13 percent). Azerbaijan imports 85 percent of the arms from Russia. Armenia's arms imports makes 4 percent of Azerbaijan's.

The report says that it remains unclear when and from where de facto armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh have acquired their weapons. It is likely that Armenia has supplied some of the weapons.

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Report: Armenia’s arms imports equal to only 4 percent of Azerbaijan’s
[ 16 March 2015 13:20 ]
Azerbaijan ranks second for arms imports among European countries

Baku. Agha Jafarli – APA. Arms imports have increased by 16 percent from 2010 to 2014 compared to 2005-2009, according to the report of the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), APA reports.

According to the report, the United States, Russia, China, Germany and France are the top arms exporters worldwide – 74 percent of the world’s weapons sales.

The US and Russia make 58 percent of weapons imports worldwide.

The United States sells arms to 94 countries.

Azerbaijan is mentioned in the “arms imports” section of the report.

Azerbaijan is a country in conflict with Armenia, and the tension between the two countries escalated in 2014. Compared to 2005-2009, Azerbaijan increased weapons imports by 249 percent in 2010-2014. The UK was the largest weapons importer in Europe (receiving 14 percent of deliveries), followed by Azerbaijan (13 percent). Azerbaijan imports 85 percent of the arms from Russia. Armenia's arms imports makes 4 percent of Azerbaijan's.

The report says that it remains unclear when and from where de facto armed forces of Nagorno-Karabakh have acquired their weapons. It is likely that Armenia has supplied some of the weapons.

Armenia doesn't make public many of its purchases, and much more so when it comes to the Karabakh armed forces. Unlike Azerbaijan which parades and celebrates every purchase. Also the arms transfers between Russia and Armenia are murky, and not really explicitly stated most of the time. Also as a general rule of thumb, Azerbaijani news doesn't follow common statistics that you and I might be familiar with when reporting. It's numbers and its projections are things pulled out of Aliyev's a--.

In reality, comparing the budgets, level of corruption, and military needs, Azerbaijan's military spending, as relative to the Karabakh conflict (spending on weapons relative to mountainous terrain), are probably 3X that of Armenia's. And of course just because something is more expensive doesn't really mean it works better. The Russian T-90s (which Azerbaijan purchased over a 100 of) performed terribly in the Georgia war. Its very reasonable to believe that upgraded T-72 at a quarter of the price will match their performance. Certainly the T90s aren't 4 times as effective despite their price. Similarly the US F-35 fighter jet program which has cost $400 billion, is still not off the ground, and there is still is no definitive proof that the F-35 is any clear improvement on the F-16 of the previous generation.

And all of that doesn't even include higher ground, level of motivation, technical ability to use all those weapons (like how they had foreign pilots flying their fighter jets at the parade a few years ago), etc

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Armenia doesn't make public many of its purchases, and much more so when it comes to the Karabakh armed forced. Unlike Azerbaijan which parades and celebrates every purchase. Also the arms transfers between Russia and Armenia are murky, and not really explicitly stated most of the time. Also as a general rule of thumb, Azerbaijani news doesn't follow common statistics that you and I might be familiar with when reporting. It's numbers and its projections are things pulled out of Aliyev's a--.

In reality, comparing the budgets, level of corruption, and military needs, Azerbaijan's military weapons, as relative to the Karabakh conflict (weapons relative to mountainous terrain), are probably 3X that of Armenia's. And of course just because something is more expensive doesn't really mean it works better. The Russian T-90s (which Azerbaijan purchased over a 100 of) performed terribly in the Georgia war. Its very reasonable to believe that upgraded T-72 at a quarter of the price will match their performance. Similarly the US F-35 fighter jet program which has cost $400 billion, is still not off the ground, and there is still is no definitive proof that the F-35 is any clear improvement on the F-16 of the previous generation.

And all of that doesn't even include higher ground, level of motivation, technical ability to use all those weapons (like how they had foreign pilots flying their fighter jets at the parade a few years ago), etc

Those are some good points,thanks

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I don't buy the excuses. There are lots of azeris fighting for ISIS and plenty of the turks to our west as well..they do not care about how it looks, they just go and fight.

There are Armenians who go there as well but its not official......I like to see Peacekeepers in action under Syrian and Armenian governments approval.

We as people who been trough Genocide.....will show compassion....must be the first ones at the scene distributing food water working with red cross if they are there. Armenian communities security come first.

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YEREVAN (Arka)—Azerbaijan has many internal political problems, and escalation of tensions on the border with Arstakh is one of the ways of shifting public attention away from those problems, Armenia’s Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian explained in an interview with Golos Armenii Newspaper.

He said that Baku is escalating tensions on the border also to increase pressure on international organizations and force them to resolve the Artsakh problem quickly.

Ohanian thinks there is also another goal – to affect the marking of the centenary of the Armenian Genocide.

In his opinion, Azerbaijan is also doing so in an apparent attempt to impact political and economic things inside Armenia and intensify emigration.

“The sabotage Azerbaijan uses to get concessions from us are absolutely unpromising,” the Minister said in his interview.

“Going back to causes of escalation of tensions by the Azerbaijani side, it is worth to point out a financial and economic factor connected with the falling oil prices,” he said. “Therefore, many programs no longer can be implemented in Azerbaijan, and border tensions are an effective way to shift public attention from domestic problems.”

In his opinion, balance of power may change soon in favor of Armenia and Azerbaijanis want to use the current moment.

“Sometimes, they probably think they are ready for a war, and this is reflected in constant shooting, ceasefire regime violations and border raids,” Ohanyan said. “However, I should say, this vigor precipitously subsides after our fitting reply.”

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Report: Azerbaijan Gets 85 Percent Of Its Weapons From Russia
March 17, 2015 - 10:27pm, by Joshua Kucera The Bug Pit Azerbaijan Russia

Azerbaijan was the second-largest arms importer in Europe over the past five years, according to a new report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, an arms trade research group.

Azerbaijan accounted for fully 13 percent of all of Europe's arms imports over the last five years, SIPRI reported, behind only the U.K. (The report doesn't list dollar values for the imports.)

While overall arms imports have been decreasing across Europe, Azerbaijan is bucking the trend: its imports of weaponry increased 249 percent in the period 2010-2014 when compared to the previous five-year period, 2005-2009.

SIPRI also tabulated the world trade in drones ("unmanned aerial vehicles" in military-speak) and Azerbaijan also ended up near the top of that list, as the fourth-largest importer of drones in the world since 1985, trailing only the U.K., India, and Italy. It also scored impressively in another SIPRI survey from last year, tallying the second-largest increase in defense budgets in the world over the past ten years.

Among the most eye-popping numbers from the newest report: 85 percent of Azerbaijan's arms imports came from Russia. Russian sales of arms to Azerbaijan has been a sore subject in Armenia, which is bracing for renewed conflict with Azerbaijan over the disputed territory of Nagorno Karabakh and which is supposed to be Russia's closest ally in the region. Recently even Armenia's pro-Russian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian complained about Russian arms sales to Baku.

But Azerbaijan also imports weapons from other countries like Israel, Turkey, and Ukraine. That Russia dwarfs all of these is somewhat surprising, and illustrates just how strong Russia's ties to the militaries of the post-Soviet states are, even in a country like Azerbaijan that's not particularly closely allied to Moscow.

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/72581

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Report: Azerbaijan Gets 85 Percent Of Its Weapons From Russia
March 17, 2015 - 10:27pm, by Joshua Kucera The Bug Pit Azerbaijan Russia

Azerbaijan was the second-largest arms importer in Europe over the past five years, according to a new report from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, an arms trade research group.

Azerbaijan accounted for fully 13 percent of all of Europe's arms imports over the last five years, SIPRI reported, behind only the U.K. (The report doesn't list dollar values for the imports.)

While overall arms imports have been decreasing across Europe, Azerbaijan is bucking the trend: its imports of weaponry increased 249 percent in the period 2010-2014 when compared to the previous five-year period, 2005-2009.

SIPRI also tabulated the world trade in drones ("unmanned aerial vehicles" in military-speak) and Azerbaijan also ended up near the top of that list, as the fourth-largest importer of drones in the world since 1985, trailing only the U.K., India, and Italy. It also scored impressively in another SIPRI survey from last year, tallying the second-largest increase in defense budgets in the world over the past ten years.

Among the most eye-popping numbers from the newest report: 85 percent of Azerbaijan's arms imports came from Russia. Russian sales of arms to Azerbaijan has been a sore subject in Armenia, which is bracing for renewed conflict with Azerbaijan over the disputed territory of Nagorno Karabakh and which is supposed to be Russia's closest ally in the region. Recently even Armenia's pro-Russian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian complained about Russian arms sales to Baku.

But Azerbaijan also imports weapons from other countries like Israel, Turkey, and Ukraine. That Russia dwarfs all of these is somewhat surprising, and illustrates just how strong Russia's ties to the militaries of the post-Soviet states are, even in a country like Azerbaijan that's not particularly closely allied to Moscow.

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/72581

It's not just that Azerbaijan purchases 85% of its weapons from Russia. It's the fact that it purchases ALL of its most advanced weapons from Russia- weapons the equivalent of which it can't purchase from anywhere else ...

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