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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Chubs View Post
    You must be talking about Shahumyan which was lost to the Azeri Army in the war. Its still occupied along with a very small Armenian enclave to the North. Other areas were indefensible positions the NKR defense army fell back from. These small enclaves in both countries largely dont mean anything. One of the enclaves in Armenia doesnt even have buildings within its territory, its a damn park.
    The small enclaves are irrelevant as Chubs mentioned and nobody on either side is going to attempt to "liberate" what amounts to the equivalent of parking lots.

    As far as I know Armenia never really lost Shahumian. The area was unanimously Armenian before the war. However in 1991, Soviet and Azeri forces together deported the population, and from the outbreak of the war Armenians were attempting to retake it. Serious attempts were made towards the end when Armenia was on the offensive but without results.

    Part of this was intentional as the current borders of Artsakh are ideal for defense as they form nearly a perfect quadrilateral, minimizing the length of the borders and making the most of higher ground and mountains.

    I find it unnecessary for Armenians to create these maps claiming these areas that we don't control. Because if we're going to follow that route why not include Western Armenia and Nakhichevan, etc. We control what we control, and that should be our focus. If there is a war and Armenia makes advances, we'll take what is reasonable and strategically advantageous. Not what anything anyone considers "historic territory" or anything of the like, since no Armenians live there.
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    • Re: Face Off: The Coming War between Armenia and Azerbaijan

      I feel the author doesn't really know a whole lot about the topic. Azerbaijan doesn't have any advantage, and more importantly, this advantage is definitely not widening. That's why I don't think war is imminent or even realistic in 2015. Simply because if Azerbaijan had an advantage and thought they had a chance, they would have invaded by now.
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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Mher View Post
        The small enclaves are irrelevant as Chubs mentioned and nobody on either side is going to attempt to "liberate" what amounts to the equivalent of parking lots.

        As far as I know Armenia never really lost Shahumian. The area was unanimously Armenian before the war. However in 1991, Soviet and Azeri forces together deported the population, and from the outbreak of the war Armenians were attempting to retake it. Serious attempts were made towards the end when Armenia was on the offensive but without results.

        Part of this was intentional as the current borders of Artsakh are ideal for defense as they form nearly a perfect quadrilateral, minimizing the length of the borders and making the most of higher ground and mountains.

        I find it unnecessary for Armenians to create these maps claiming these areas that we don't control. Because if we're going to follow that route why not include Western Armenia and Nakhichevan, etc. We control what we control, and that should be our focus. If there is a war and Armenia makes advances, we'll take what is reasonable and strategically advantageous. Not what anything anyone considers "historic territory" or anything of the like, since no Armenians live there.
        Armenians controlled Shahumian before the goranboy offensive during this offensive we lost Shahumian and most of Martakert. We took back most of Martakert, exept for a piece with some villages in the east that is still controlled by Azerbaijan, but we didn't take Shahumian.

        Also showing the areas on maps is important for the history of the conflict and also to countering Azeri claims of Armenians taking Azer inhabited land by showing that Azerbaijan took Armenian inhabited lands.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

            Armenia President and Italy defense minister discuss collaboration (PHOTOS)
            16:56, 09.04.2015
            Region:World News, Armenia
            Theme: Politics


            YEREVAN. – President of Armenia Serzh Sargsyan, who is in Italy on an official visit, on Thursday met with Roberta Pinotti, the Italian Minister of Defense.

            The interlocutors discussed the avenues for expanding collaboration within the framework of the bilateral military cooperation agreement, which the two countries have signed, informed the Press Office of the President of Armenia.

            They also underscored the fact that Armenia-Italy military cooperation includes peacekeeping.

            In addition, Sargsyan highly praised Italy’s providing scholarships to Armenian military servicemen.

            The Armenian President and the Italian defense minister also exchanged views on the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, and security and stability in the South Caucasus.

            Following the talk, Serzh Sargsyan and Roberta Pinotti participated in a videoconference with Armenian and Italian soldiers conducting a joint peacekeeping mission in Lebanon, and under the auspices of the United Nations.




            Armenia News - NEWS.am
            http://news.am/eng/news/261147.html

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

              It was smart of Armenian forces to retreat back into the highlands instead of defending the regions below in the flatlands. Its gonna be an uphill fight for the Azeris if they try to take it back, and Armenians are more than willing to kick them in their heads.
              Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                Arshak Zakaryan visits the site of the Azeri attack and more. Each video is 20 minutes long but worth it.


                Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Federate View Post
                  Arshak Zakaryan visits the site of the Azeri attack and more. Each video is 20 minutes long but worth it.


                  Thank you for the videos Federate.

                  I hope I am not flippant under the cercumstances,
                  at the beginning of the video a soldier was obviously struggling to cut some logs for firewood.

                  I had seen this device on youtube which appears to ease cutting those logs.
                  It is something that it could be made in Armenia and provided to our troops or indeed far away villages.



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                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                    About Asker dead Say a Word

                    Two days ago some Armenian media published unofficial information perished under an avalanche in the mountains of Nakhchivan of Azerbaijan Asker: Senior Lieutenant Anara Kerimov and enlisted Mehdi Zeynalova.

                    It was also reported three Asker wounded in a shootout with Armenian soldiers in Beylagan region.

                    Azerbaijani media then fell silent in confusion, and the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan gained courage in the genus formalin, in ordinary cases, used for long-term storage of corpses askerni. Hung in the air all appeal to the Minister of Defense of Azerbaijan Z. Hasanov requests dead Asker put in a word.

                    Insist on the death of A. Karimov and M. Zeynalov did not we, "Voskanapat" for example, is satisfied by the very fact of death askerni.

                    However, today, April 9, Azerbaijani media finally got permission to publish reports of deaths unlucky climbers - askers. Well, better late than never. This - as regards information. As for the fact of death askers, in this case the statement acquires a different formulation: better yesterday than today.
                    http://voskanapat.info/?p=10975

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                      [QUOTE=Eddo211;357696]
                      Originally posted by Odysseus View Post

                      Or a modified K-6-92
                      What ever happened to that submachine gun? Honestly id like to see it enter service

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