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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • #19411
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    Thats what you say.......without air superiority (I mean aircrafts, not ground to air batteries) in today's wars is a sure loss. Your tanks are sitting ducts.

    Our Airforce must be able to provide ground support to the troops and be able to engage and destroy enemy aircraft dropping bombs. One SU-25 loaded with bombs can cause major damage if it reaches its target.
    Your tanks are sitting ducts.
    High concentration of AA systems can prevent an air force from even being deployed in a region. Ukraine is a perfect example, when was the last time you heard of an Ukr air strike in the East? Russian air defense units have set up in the region with Pantsir-S1 and Buk.

    Artillery would be fine for ground support


    The Azeri T90s are a large issue, because Kontakt-5 cannot be penetrated by current Soviet AP rounds, even slightly older American ones couldnt get through it.

    Combine Kontakt-5 with T90s reinforced composite armor and mantlet...you got a tough as xxxx tank. Big issue if they know how to use it.

    Armenia needs better ERA for its tanks...

    T14 is estimated to cost 7 million per vehicle, not alot for that kind of tank. Russia is eager to export it to pay for its at home manufacturing costs, Armenia can easily purchase them at possible knocked down prices..(not by much of course)

    A small amount, maybe 30-40 purchased over a few years, can easily spearhead Armenia's armored force.
    Last edited by Chubs; 04-29-2015, 04:15 PM.
    Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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    • #19412
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      The country side is starting to look like a porcupine........fck if I know.
      B0zkurt Hunter

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      • #19413
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
        Ադրբեջանում ԶՈւ զինծառայողները սպանել են իրենց ծառայակցին

        Ապրիլ 29, 2015

        Ադրբեջանի զինված ուժերն օրերս ունեցել է հերթական կորուստը, որի մասին չի հայտարարվել պաշտոնական աղբյուրներով։ Գեդաբեկի շրջանում (սահմանակից է ՀՀ Գեղարքունիքի մարզին) տեղակայված զորամասերից մեկի մարտական դիրքում գրանցվել է սպանության դեպք. Շամխորի շրջանից զորակոչված զինծառայող, սերժանտ Սեմեդ Միրիևը նախնական տվյալներով սպանվել է ծառայակիցների կողմից։ Որպես միջադեպի օր նշվում է ապրիլի 24-ը։ Այս մասին Ռազմինֆոյին հայտնի է դարձել սոցիալական ցանցերից։
        Սերժանտ Սեմեդ Միրիև

        Սերժանտ Սեմեդ Միրիև

        Բաց աղբյուրների հետագա ուսումնասիրության արդյունքում հայտնի է դարձել նաև, որ որպես միջադեպի մեղավորներ հիշատակվում են սպանվածի 3 ծառայակիցներն ու 1 սպա (լեյտենանտ Ջավադով)։

        Ուշագրավ է նաև, որ Միրիևի մահվան մասին հայտնող աղբյուրները նշում են, թե ծառայակիցները նրան սպանել են ՝ ենթարկելով ծեծի։ Սակայն համացանցում արդեն իսկ կան սպանվածի մարմնի՝ դիահերձարանում արված լուսանկարները, որոնցում Միրիևի կրծքավանդակի ձախ հատվածում երևում է հրազենային միջանցիկ վիրավորում։

        Հավելենք, որ սա Ադրբեջանի պաշտպանական և անվտանգության համակարգերում 2015-ի ապրիլին գրանցված մահվան ելքով 8-րդ դեպքն է, որը հայտնի է դարձել։

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        His funeral.

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        • #19414
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          Thats what you say.......without air superiority (I mean aircrafts, not ground to air batteries) in today's wars is a sure loss. Your tanks are sitting ducts.

          Our Airforce must be able to provide ground support to the troops and be able to engage and destroy enemy aircraft dropping bombs. One SU-25 loaded with bombs can cause major damage if it reaches its target.
          Exactly if Azeris try to pull a blitzkrieg on us it would be hard for our air defense forces to take account for every flying Azeri aircraft and like the scenario you mentioned if one fully loaded plane reaches the target is destruction of great amount of personnel and priceless weaponry,even missle batteries that helpes us target Baku and oil refineries and gives us the upper hand
          We indeed need more aircraft to engage in air and ground support,loved your point of view eddo

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          • #19415
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
            Thats what you say.......without air superiority (I mean aircrafts, not ground to air batteries) in today's wars is a sure loss. Your tanks are sitting ducts.

            Our Airforce must be able to provide ground support to the troops and be able to engage and destroy enemy aircraft dropping bombs. One SU-25 loaded with bombs can cause major damage if it reaches its target.
            Aircraft has less than 10% chances to hit their target when the opposite country operates S-300 and many other anti aircraft missiles.

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            • #19416
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Who told you that, with todays targeting system you almost can't miss.......we are not trowing bombs out of the aircraft by hand like WW1. even that was more than 10 percent.

              OK so how many high dollar S-300 you gonna shoot.....some targets are not worth the S-300 missile.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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              • #19417
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                Who told you that, with todays targeting system you almost can't miss.......we are not trowing bombs out of the aircraft by hand like WW1. even that was more than 10 percent.

                OK so how many high dollar S-300 you gonna shoot.....some targets are not worth the S-300 missile.
                16 Mig-29s surely are. SU-25s can be shot down by MANPAds fairly easily.
                Armenian colony of Glendale will conquer all of California!

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                • #19418
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  You won't see any mig 29s. There are strictly air to air combat and to risk them going after an SU-25 or helicopters its not worth getting it shut down.......now if you modify one as a multi-role bomber fighter then yes.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • #19419
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Regretfully , I think both Spetsnaz & eddo are right.
                    Weare Armenians and we have to be practicle. We cannot really afford an appropriate airforce at this time.
                    Spetsnaz's understanding will suffice to stop these thieves (and murders) . They do not have sufficient aircraft to withstand the losses we can inflict with "only " a modest more reinforcement of existing capability.
                    Quite reasonable. Please remember , their resolve and ours are as difference between a lie and the truth.

                    But yes , Eddo is absolutely correct . No question about it. ---- an effective , an substantial airforce is decisive & crucial.
                    Operated correctly , it's generally the leading edge & continuous edge in an up close and personal fight as well as ALL strategic values.
                    ----- Airforce ----- puts us over the top if done correctly with precise coordination with all facets of military operation.
                    Spetsnaz's right , we don't need world class to stop monkeyiev .
                    Eddo's right , airforce is world class by any and all estimations.

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                    • #19420
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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