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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Going through the Armed Forces of other countries, it seems like it would be optimal if Armenia builds up two brigades. One, a SF brigade like the Australians have modeled after the SAS, and one MI brigade that we can use to hack into their systems and disrupt them internally. Each brigade wouldn't have to exceed 1500 uniformed personnel.

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      Ministry of Defence staff exercises

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        What amuses me is that Azeris are in panic because the last few years they were eating caviar and wine but now they have to go on a diet and it would be hard for them,Armenians are used to the slip and slide of the economy,they weren't fed with oil like Azeri turds were

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Azerbaijan has taken path of exhausting its own special forces: Spokesperson of Armenia Defense Minister

          16:10, 22 December, 2015
          YEREVAN, DECEBER 22, ARMENPRESS. Azerbaijan has taken the path of exhausting its own special forces. Spokesperson of Armenia Defense Minister Artsrun Hovhannisyan informed about it during the meeting with journalists.

          “You can notice that the number of adversary’s victims among conscript soldiers has reduced drastically and that of contract soldiers and officers has increased during the recent two years. What does this speak about? We can say, that they have chosen the path of consuming their so called “

          gold reserves”,” “Armenpress” reports, Artsrun Hovhannisyan emphasized. “Tanks are brought to the fore and fired. And the use of howitzer D-30 is more dangerous. Azerbaijan has brought the tension to such level that all the reserves in the arsenal of regiments and brigades of the front line are being used: no weapon or means has remained in the military units that are not being used.”

          The Azerbaijani side has had more than 200 victims since the beginning of the year.

          “I can say that as of now, the number of victims of the Azerbaijani side exceeds 210. It is difficult to note the final figures, as we must sum them up from various sources,” he said.

          Artsrun Hovhannisyan emphasized that it is meaningless to use the term “ceasefire violation” when speaking about the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, as “basically we no longer have ceasefire”.

          “We do not have peace, we have relative calmness,” Spokesperson of Armenia Defense Minister said, adding that the situation was comparatively calm on Armenia-Azerbaijan border and the line of contact last night.

          Regarding the use of different weapons by the Azerbaijani party in the line of contact, Hovhannisyan said that the adversary wants to cause serious damage to the Armenian side but it fails, receiving much stronger counterattacks. According to Hovhannisyan, the effectiveness of actions in war situations is determined by disruption of the adversary’s objectives and actions. And the adversary each time tries to cause more damages than one-two victims in the Nagorno Karabakh conflict zone, but the Armenian side does not permit that, failing their plans. However, the Armenian side cannot open the brackets and state what preventive measures are being taken in order to fail the enemy’s this or that action.

          Azerbaijan made traditional attempts of subversive acts ahead of the meeting of Armenia and Azerbaijani presidents, as a result of which soldiers of the Defense Army Aghasi Arsen Grigoryan (born in 1996) and Ruben Robert Aleksanyan (born in 1996) heroically died during armed battles on December 17.

          As a result of another attempt of a subversive act carried out on December 18, soldier of the Defense Army Fidar Igor Aloyan (born in 1996) sustained a fatal wound.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by argin View Post
            What amuses me is that Azeris are in panic because the last few years they were eating caviar and wine but now they have to go on a diet and it would be hard for them,Armenians are used to the slip and slide of the economy,they weren't fed with oil like Azeri turds were
            History has forged us into the mountains, we aren't going anywhere.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
              History has forged us into the mountains, we aren't going anywhere.
              haha agreed,we own the mountains,no where to go.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by argin View Post
                What amuses me is that Azeris are in panic because the last few years they were eating caviar and wine but now they have to go on a diet and it would be hard for them,Armenians are used to the slip and slide of the economy,they weren't fed with oil like Azeri turds were
                I think the reality is that in Azerbaijan, despite the immense unearned wealth, the average person has never really been much better off than the average person in Armenia. Maybe slightly, but not nearly to the extent you would expect given the immense discrepancy in available revenue for the two countries. Most of that extra wealth was lost in corruption and to the accounts of the elite. For all the glamour you see in central Baku, much of the rest of the country is toiling away without a lot of basics. So now, given the 50 percent loss in currency value, 10 percent GDP budget deficit, the massive oncoming inflation, their options are either quickly become a less corrupt and better functioning government, something that is nearly impossible to achieve instantaneously, or the living standards of the people declining to well below what we have in Armenia, and the start of internal conflict. Because at the end of the day, even if Aliyev decided its time to do what's best for his country for the sake of his survival, he wouldn't be able to convince the elite who have enjoyed the benefits of him being in power to do the same. So while the elite will still be getting their share, its the rest of the people who are bound to suffer more. So this is the part that concerns me, because at that point, if the internal issues get out of control, his only choice would be war.
                <<եթե զենք էլ չլինի' ես քարերով կկրվեմ>>

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Mher View Post
                  I think the reality is that in Azerbaijan, despite the immense unearned wealth, the average person has never really been much better off than the average person in Armenia. Maybe slightly, but not nearly to the extent you would expect given the immense discrepancy in available revenue for the two countries. Most of that extra wealth was lost in corruption and to the accounts of the elite. For all the glamour you see in central Baku, much of the rest of the country is toiling away without a lot of basics. So now, given the 50 percent loss in currency value, 10 percent GDP budget deficit, the massive oncoming inflation, their options are either quickly become a less corrupt and better functioning government, something that is nearly impossible to achieve instantaneously, or the living standards of the people declining to well below what we have in Armenia, and the start of internal conflict. Because at the end of the day, even if Aliyev decided its time to do what's best for his country for the sake of his survival, he wouldn't be able to convince the elite who have enjoyed the benefits of him being in power to do the same. So while the elite will still be getting their share, its the rest of the people who are bound to suffer more. So this is the part that concerns me, because at that point, if the internal issues get out of control, his only choice would be war.
                  this reminds me of a clever youtube exchange between an Armenian and azeri.. the azeri commented on the video stating something along the lines of you Armenians are starving in your third world country.. an Armenian responded saying you're right.. we are starving and live in a a third world country.. whats your excuse for starving? lol

                  Azerbaijan is facing many wars.. we are honestly their last concern at this point. Kharabakh is so irrelevant compared to what they are dealing with. Their economy would be priority in my opinion, then they are dealing with the international community in terms of human rights violations and sanctions, then they have this radicalised Muslim movement going on in the villages all the while being supported by Iran, I would say our situation with them is on the back burner for the foreseeable future.
                  Last edited by Shant03; 12-22-2015, 06:15 PM.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Shant03 View Post
                    Azerbaijan is facing many wars
                    NO!

                    Baboons facing only one more war And Game Over for Them!
                    Your Armenian Lion

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Mher View Post
                      I think the reality is that in Azerbaijan, despite the immense unearned wealth, the average person has never really been much better off than the average person in Armenia. Maybe slightly, but not nearly to the extent you would expect given the immense discrepancy in available revenue for the two countries. Most of that extra wealth was lost in corruption and to the accounts of the elite. For all the glamour you see in central Baku, much of the rest of the country is toiling away without a lot of basics. So now, given the 50 percent loss in currency value, 10 percent GDP budget deficit, the massive oncoming inflation, their options are either quickly become a less corrupt and better functioning government, something that is nearly impossible to achieve instantaneously, or the living standards of the people declining to well below what we have in Armenia, and the start of internal conflict. Because at the end of the day, even if Aliyev decided its time to do what's best for his country for the sake of his survival, he wouldn't be able to convince the elite who have enjoyed the benefits of him being in power to do the same. So while the elite will still be getting their share, its the rest of the people who are bound to suffer more. So this is the part that concerns me, because at that point, if the internal issues get out of control, his only choice would be war.
                      Those are great points and I agree with every point mentioned except for the last one,Azerbaijan was in middle of internal conflict in the last war,due to power vacuum and Corrupt leaders,which in a great way divide the nation,which ended in our benefit.if anything a new internal conflict with be w new divide and conquer for our forces

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