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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by armnuke View Post
    We need to focus on three things now on the short term.

    1) Acquiring advanced ATGMs. Chinese HJ-8 Red Arrow is an excellent choice for a cheap price.
    2) Focus on getting drones, and jamming shooting theirs. This could be also done with China. Rainbow 4/5 drones are lethal armed drones.
    3) Focus on protecting our current positions with tires, sand, camo netting.
    Agree with your assessment- focus on ATGM's, UAV's, Radar, MRLS systems, and mine the living sh#t out of the border. This will take time and money but the process should begin right away. I believe based statements from the Armenian MoD recently, they are headed in this direction.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Instigate is ready to produce drones for Armenian Army

      April 8, 2016 17:13


      Instigate Chief Engineer Vahagn Poghosyan
      Photo: www. be-armenia.com

      Azerbaijani Army lost 15 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) in Artsakh’s sky on April 2-8.
      Some of them were impact or suicide (kamikaze) UAVs that Azerbaijan bought from Israel.

      Public began actively discussing that Armenian side also should have modern UAVs, voicing opinions that those can be produced on the place, in Armenia.

      Armenian IT company, Instigate Robotics, has been working with drone development and programming for many years. The company’s co-founder and Chief Engineer Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax about their drones and possible cooperation with the Army.

      “Drones usually carry useful cargo, mostly cameras. Military drones are used to control intelligence and artillery. Our current developments are for civilian use, but we can also produce military models after certain necessary works,” Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax.

      According to him, they made frequent cooperation attempts with Defense Ministry since 2011, had meetings and discussions to direct Instigate’s potential on modernization of Armenian Army’s arsenal, but no particular steps followed.

      ”We cooperate with Singapore at present. Instigate is developing a model of unmanned aerial vehicle for that country’s Police Coast Guard, which is most likely to be used in 2017 to film ports from the sky,” said Vahagn Poghosyan.

      “The advantage of our drones is that they are charged from the ground. Drones with electric motors have limited cruising time, but our developments can stay in the sky as long as needed, making necessary shots,” added he.


      Vahagn Petrosyan told Mediamax that in case they get an agreement with Armenian Defense Army, they can make various developments of military drones for Armenian Armed Forces as well. He remarked that the price of drones produced in Armenia will be notably lower that what global market currently offers.

      Suren Stepanyan


      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Russia PM: Creating new mechanisms for Karabakh conflict settlement is dangerous

        Karabakh conflict is a long-standing one. Mechanisms and formats for its solution are available: it’s dangerous to create anything new now. Instead, it’s necessary to return to the “bargaining table which was created during the recent 20 years,” and start consultations.

        Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev said the aforementioned in Baku on Firday.

        “Unfortunately, this conflict has been dragging on since 1994, and there are mechanisms, and format, as well as proposals and a group dealing with it. The most important thing now is to fully use what we have worked on in the recent years,” Medvedev said.

        “Creating something new would be twice dangerous now, since we would paralyze the work thereby. I think it’s necessary to calm down and return to the bargaining table, which was created during the recent 20 years,” he added, RIA Novosti reports.

        “Creating something new would be twice dangerous now, since we would paralyze the work thereby...

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          I wonder if the people doing these negotiations realize what a complete waste of time their work is. They want all of it, and we won't give up a grain of dirt. And when I say we, I don't mean us Diasporans sitting behind a computer. I mean people in Karabakh. If you ask them, that's their response. Until now, we had the negotiations because the alternative was war and we were trying to avoid that. Well, we just had war, and this animals proved they can't do anything. So why are we back at this act of pretending we're gonna negotiate something.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            War Lick and the others are flying from one capital to the other, checking in at top hotels, and making good $$$. Wish I had that job LOL

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Mher View Post
              I wonder if the people doing these negotiations realize what a complete waste of time their work is. They want all of it, and we won't give up a grain of dirt. And when I say we, I don't mean us Diasporans sitting behind a computer. I mean people in Karabakh. If you ask them, that's their response. Until now, we had the negotiations because the alternative was war and we were trying to avoid that. Well, we just had war, and this animals proved they can't do anything. So why are we back at this act of pretending we're gonna negotiate something.
              Endless negotiations, all talk blah blah. That's what frozen conflicts are. In the end nothing will change until the next war changes something on the ground.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                We need to focus on three things now on the short term.

                1) Acquiring advanced ATGMs. Chinese HJ-8 Red Arrow is an excellent choice for a cheap price.
                2) Focus on getting drones, and jamming shooting theirs. This could be also done with China. Rainbow 4/5 drones are lethal armed drones.
                3) Focus on protecting our current positions with tires, sand, camo netting.
                On your first two points, I think we should reverse engineer some of the atgm and build them in Armenia on mass. Same with ammunition for all small arms and light weapons. For drones, we have Krunk. Let's put our programmers and engineers to work and upgrade it. Let's strap those atgm missiles to Krunk and have our own version of armed drones.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Mher View Post
                  I wonder if the people doing these negotiations realize what a complete waste of time their work is. They want all of it, and we won't give up a grain of dirt. And when I say we, I don't mean us Diasporans sitting behind a computer. I mean people in Karabakh. If you ask them, that's their response. Until now, we had the negotiations because the alternative was war and we were trying to avoid that. Well, we just had war, and this animals proved they can't do anything. So why are we back at this act of pretending we're gonna negotiate something.
                  Seriously. The Azeris have a choice, they can either try their hardest to retake the region, which though costly to all sides (especially the Azeris and they'll ultimately fail)- a full-scale war will be brutal as we all know....OR...... continue with the status quo. The Armenian side has nothing to gain by the negotiations except to keep this thing going. It is true what the Azeri's say, yes, the Armenians negotiate only to stall and keep the status quo; why would Armenia and NKR do otherwise? There is no way in hell that the Armenian population will ever live in Azerbaijan. Those days are gone and that ship has sailed. Doing so is suicidal and the Int'l community needs to realize this - perhaps they already do because everybody was happy with the status quo (besides the Azeris) and pumping oil and selling weapons to both sides.
                  General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Instigate is ready to produce drones for Armenian Army

                    Azerbaijani Army lost 15 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) in Artsakh’s sky on April 2-8.

                    Some of them were impact or suicide (kamikaze) UAVs that Azerbaijan bought from Israel.

                    Public began actively discussing that Armenian side also should have modern UAVs, voicing opinions that those can be produced on the place, in Armenia.

                    Armenian IT company, Instigate Robotics, has been working with drone development and programming for many years. The company’s co-founder and Chief Engineer Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax about their drones and possible cooperation with the Army.

                    “Drones usually carry useful cargo, mostly cameras. Military drones are used to control intelligence and artillery. Our current developments are for civilian use, but we can also produce military models after certain necessary works,” Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax.

                    According to him, they made frequent cooperation attempts with Defense Ministry since 2011, had meetings and discussions to direct Instigate’s potential on modernization of Armenian Army’s arsenal, but no particular steps followed.

                    ”We cooperate with Singapore at present. Instigate is developing a model of unmanned aerial vehicle for that country’s Police Coast Guard, which is most likely to be used in 2017 to film ports from the sky,” said Vahagn Poghosyan.

                    “The advantage of our drones is that they are charged from the ground. Drones with electric motors have limited cruising time, but our developments can stay in the sky as long as needed, making necessary shots,” added he.

                    Vahagn Petrosyan told Mediamax that in case they get an agreement with Armenian Defense Army, they can make various developments of military drones for Armenian Armed Forces as well. He remarked that the price of drones produced in Armenia will be notably lower that what global market currently offers.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by armnuke View Post
                      Instigate is ready to produce drones for Armenian Army

                      Azerbaijani Army lost 15 unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) in Artsakh’s sky on April 2-8.

                      Some of them were impact or suicide (kamikaze) UAVs that Azerbaijan bought from Israel.

                      Public began actively discussing that Armenian side also should have modern UAVs, voicing opinions that those can be produced on the place, in Armenia.

                      Armenian IT company, Instigate Robotics, has been working with drone development and programming for many years. The company’s co-founder and Chief Engineer Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax about their drones and possible cooperation with the Army.

                      “Drones usually carry useful cargo, mostly cameras. Military drones are used to control intelligence and artillery. Our current developments are for civilian use, but we can also produce military models after certain necessary works,” Vahagn Poghosyan told Mediamax.

                      According to him, they made frequent cooperation attempts with Defense Ministry since 2011, had meetings and discussions to direct Instigate’s potential on modernization of Armenian Army’s arsenal, but no particular steps followed.

                      ”We cooperate with Singapore at present. Instigate is developing a model of unmanned aerial vehicle for that country’s Police Coast Guard, which is most likely to be used in 2017 to film ports from the sky,” said Vahagn Poghosyan.

                      “The advantage of our drones is that they are charged from the ground. Drones with electric motors have limited cruising time, but our developments can stay in the sky as long as needed, making necessary shots,” added he.

                      Vahagn Petrosyan told Mediamax that in case they get an agreement with Armenian Defense Army, they can make various developments of military drones for Armenian Armed Forces as well. He remarked that the price of drones produced in Armenia will be notably lower that what global market currently offers.

                      http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/armypolice/17640/
                      Armenian and NKR military definitely needs to be more proactive than reactive not just in terms of offensive and defensive operations, but in procurement. Yes, Armenia and NKR have limited budgets but that's no excuse when you can procure or produce effective technology/equipment cheaply.
                      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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