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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Because paid propogandists like Vrej1915 have been brainwashing our people to think that Russia is the source of all our problems. It is easy to blame others for your troubles rather that take responcibility for your own failings and those of our ancestors.
    HAHAHA I remember when you once said Vrej1915 is a 'spy' LOL

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      . It is easy to blame others for your troubles rather that take responcibility for your own failings and those of our ancestors.
      Yep. I personally blame gagik-abas for letting Ani fall to turks in 1064.

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          Originally posted by armnuke View Post
          HAHAHA I remember when you once said Vrej1915 is a 'spy' LOL
          Haykakan jan, have you tried personally messaging Vrej? You might change your views if you spoke to him in person rather than the constant third person personal attacks. He's actually very pleasent to speak to, and extremely knowledgeable and you can always learn from anyone no matter what you think of them. It's specially true for someone whose actually what I would call an expert, even if you happen to disagree with his views. He's certainly not a spy, or a CIA project, or a davajan. I think if he was a CIA spy, they would make sure his English was 100% perfect so he could actually influence those whose Armenian isnt perfect, which is most of this forum members. If someone as knowledgeable as Hakob, who shares your views on many topics, can have respect for him, you should be able to do so too.
          Last edited by Mher; 04-09-2016, 12:25 PM.
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                Originally posted by Mher View Post
                Haykakan jan, have you tried personally messaging Vrej? You might change your views if you spoke to him in person rather than the constant third person personal attacks. He's actually very pleasent to speak to, and extremely knowledgeable and you can always learn from anyone no matter what you think of them. It's specially true for someone whose actually what I would call an expert, even if you happen to disagree with his views. He's certainly not a spy, or a CIA project, or a davajan. I think if he was a CIA spy, they would make sure his English was 100% perfect so he could actually influence those whose Armenian isnt perfect, which is most of this forum members. If someone as knowledgeable as Hakob, who shares your views on many topics, can have respect for him, you should be able to do so too.
                Yes I have pmed him many times before. Yes he will shell out lots of facts but they are all not only one sided in context but also carefully handpicked to deliver a particular narrative. I have communicated with him more then anyone here including Hakob. During some of our conversations the person using that name did not know me after many previous conversations. At another point the person using that name new me but not our previous conversations. At another point this user was having a hard time with Armenian but was totally fluent in English, at another time the user could not understand or use English words. Besides these obvious giveaways you should examine the history of his posts in regards to their content. His posts are not only antirussian on every level but they are also anti government of Armenia on every level. There has never been anything positive about these entities in any of his posts. The overriding theme is its all bad and we need to change by getting rid of Russia and our leaders to have a chance at anything positive. When confronted with ok so we got rid of Russia and her influences so now what? He has zero answers. This person has no regard about our future at all and is focused on only one single thing..driving a wedge between us and Russia. it is the content of our conversations that reveal his doublecrossing identity. He claims to be a vet of the war and when he needs to he presents a plethora of knowledge about it (only one sided of course), but as you talk to him you start to realize something is not right here. We were talking about the proposal our government was considering regarding letting sheep from Iran graze on our vacant fields. During this conversation he claimed that no one in Armenia eats lamb. Anyone that has spent any time in Armenia knows lamb is a part of our food culture there especially khorovats yet this vet who has spent so much time in Hayastan and Artsakh and has all this detailed treasure trove of facts, has no clue that lamb is popular in Armenia. It is things like this that are dead giveaways, this is a person pretending to be someone else. In my classes I encourage my students to think for themselves and not to believe everything they are told and that includes what I tell them. I encourage you to think for yourself, gather facts, do your own research, do your own thinking so that you do not fall prey and become the tool of our enemies. Vrej could be working for USA, NATO, Turkey, Azeris, Israel....we do not know. What we do know is the history of his posts and their content.
                Last edited by Haykakan; 04-09-2016, 01:10 PM.
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by burjuin View Post
                  That's a T-72 obr. 1975. One has to be skillful to hit a T-90 with that.

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                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    Yes I have pmed him many times their content.
                    Out of respect to this thread, I would not like to pollute, I will answer to this tchorkodani in a special thread .
                    I do it, because once again, I am forced. Apologies for all others not concerned.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia &amp; Azerbaijan

                      In the analysis by Zoravar, he says

                      " The former can be dealt with the Pantsir-S SAM system that we are supposed to receive as part of our $200 mil. order from Russia"

                      I believe he's wrong there. Can someone please clarify if I'm wrong. The Patsir-S wasn't on the list of weapons we're supposed to receive. The agreement includes most notably Smerch and TOS-1 (along with 9M113M guided missiles, RPG-26 grenade launchers, Dragunov sniper rifles, and Tiger armored vehicles)

                      but no Pantsir-S, again correct me if I'm wrong

                      http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/27560789.html
                      http://massispost.com/2016/02/russia...tary-products/
                      https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.w...asing-weapons/
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