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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    An interesting perspective from the former Azeri DM

    Azerbaijani former deputy Minister of Defense: How can Ilham Aliyev
    “recover country’s territorial integrity” being complete nonentity?

    POLITICS 13:58 03/05/2016 REGION

    In conditions of the problems that the Azerbaijani side has, it is not
    necessary to speak about a full-fledged war despite the
    intensification of the violations of the ceasefire agreement, former
    Azerbaijani deputy Minister of Defense and former commander of corps,
    colonel Isa Sadigov, told online Meydan TV.

    He particularly notes the “trouble” with the formation of the
    preparation of the “successive waves” corps,citing as a positive
    examplethe Nazi Wehrmacht, which had 17 waves in its rear during the
    attack against the Soviet Union. Isa Sadigov also mentions artillery
    problems.

    “The Azerbaijani authorities stated that they had spent 30 billion on
    army re-equipment. Unfortunately, we did not see the recoil of those
    billions during the events. That is why, it can be stated that the
    lion’s share of that sum was robbed – one third of that money would be
    enough to fully replenish the army with the latest military
    equipment,” the former official said.

    Referring to the revanchist and arrogant moods in Azerbaijan based on
    the quantity and “best armament,”Sadigov notes that those are not
    professional assessments. In his opinion, despite the “advantages” and
    “theoretically possible blitzkrieg,” the behavior of the Azerbaijani
    authorities, which did not use the 22 years of truce to prepare for a
    war, obstructs it.

    “My observations of our armed forces prove that the state of affairs
    of the organizational issues can also play a bad joke on us,”Sadigov
    notes emphasizing that a subdivision of the Azerbaijani Special Forces
    was surrounded in Martakert direction during the latest military
    action.

    “And what if we run into resistance, and the war turns lengthy rather
    than a light walk or safari? I do not know to what extent the
    Azerbaijani public opinion is ready for that,”Sadigov wonders adding
    that the army headquarters of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces acted
    contrary to the classic canons of offensive operations during the
    events, which occurred in early April.

    He believes that Baku will not decide on a large-scale military action
    without obtaining sanctions from Moscow.
    Sadigov also covers the issue of the Azerbaijani society’s
    consolidation around Ilham Aliyev’s personality, and notes that the
    situation of the peculiar peaceful time, which “has been presented as
    the regime’s main accomplishment during the past 14 years,” has been
    formed thanks to the Aliyevs.

    “As for us, current Azerbaijani authorities entirely depend on the
    Kremlin’s will, and I cannot imagine that Ilham Aliyev, a complete
    nonentity with his personal qualities, can start his own actions for
    the recovery of Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity. His father could
    not do it in favorable conditions of 1994, and he will not do
    it,either, ”Sadigov states.

    The Aliyev regime's only achievement is Azerbaijan’s isolation from
    the civilized world in afull dependence on the Kremlin with its inner
    and foreign policy. “Ilham Aliyev can make speeches with curses and
    threats against the US, Germany, but it will never even express its
    position as an answer to Moscow’s openly insulting attacks,”he says.

    Sadigov assured that the Aliyev family is not interested in Karabakh,
    they only want power and opportunity to rob the country. “After Heydar
    Aliyev came to power, many people also believed that he ‘would soon
    throw his coat and go to liberate Karabakh.’ Or nothing would be
    necessary at all -- the Armenians would be so frightened of him, that
    would escape. At that time, many people believed in him, and the
    society united around the power. As a result, during 2 months, we lost
    more than 5000 soldiers, and after that, the authorities signed the
    shameful Bishkek agreements,” he reminds.

    He also notes that during the 22 years of the truce, the Azerbaijani
    authorities have not taken up reforms in the army, which is in
    terrible plight: corruption rules, and dedovshchina storms.

    “All this can hardly stop in a moment. It is an incredible stupidity
    to speak about war in these conditions. I clearly understand that it
    is impossible to start war with this regime, and it iseven more
    impossible to win it,” he notes.

    Summing up, the former deputy minister touched to the relevant issue
    of Armenophobia widespread in Azerbaijan. Highlighting the issue, he
    wonders whether the Azerbaijani society is ready for a joint
    inhabitation with the Armenians in Karabakh.

    “After Ramil Safarov’s story, I strongly doubt in that. The behavior
    of the official circles back then is worth mentioning -- that man’s
    pardon and inclusion in the range of national heroes only spoke about
    the fact that in Baku, the murder of an Armenian is heroism. This case
    is an obstacle in the final resolution of the Karabakh conflict, just
    like the military action,”Sadigov answers to his own question.

    General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
      I wonder if people actually ever think before they speak or write. If fools write things then many fools who read it will believe it. The day Armenia leaves Russian security system for NATO will be one of the last things it does as a Armenian state. If we put our trust yet again in the west then we truly deserve to go extinct for anyone that repeatedly puts his head under a guillotine deserves to lose his head. NATO has zero mechanisms for protecting members against other NATO countries. Our biggest threat as a nation and a people has the biggest Army in Europe and is a NATO member deemed far more important to that alliance then we will ever be. How will we get weapons in NATO? How will we guard our Turkish border while holding off Azeris? Who is going to invest into a country with no security? If you think too many people are leaving Armenia today then join NATO and see the rest get slaughtered as only the lucky ones will leave alive. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
      says who? Haykakan posting from some NATO capital

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        Originally posted by Artashes View Post
        So I "hit" the URL looking to see who wrote this but found no author?
        Can you say who said this and if he has any government title?
        he's quoting Armenia Ashotyan

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            Originally posted by armnuke View Post
            says who? Haykakan posting from some NATO capital
            Yes and that should mean something. I have every conceivable reason to say yes lets join the West, yet living in the west for so long has made it abundantly clear to me that it will not be a partner to Armenia. Even those countries in Europe that want to be our friends are unable to do so because the "NATO capital" orders them to act against their own national interests. This should be a clear warning bell to us yet we somehow manage to interpurt warning bells as welcoming hyms. We have the luxury of learning from our own history to avoid making the same mistakes which have cost us so dearly. If we refuse to use our heads, then we deserve to lose them.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              I wonder if people actually ever think before they speak or write. If fools write things then many fools who read it will believe it. The day Armenia leaves Russian security system for NATO will be one of the last things it does as a Armenian state. If we put our trust yet again in the west then we truly deserve to go extinct for anyone that repeatedly puts his head under a guillotine deserves to lose his head. NATO has zero mechanisms for protecting members against other NATO countries. Our biggest threat as a nation and a people has the biggest Army in Europe and is a NATO member deemed far more important to that alliance then we will ever be. How will we get weapons in NATO? How will we guard our Turkish border while holding off Azeris? Who is going to invest into a country with no security? If you think too many people are leaving Armenia today then join NATO and see the rest get slaughtered as only the lucky ones will leave alive. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
              So how come there has not been any war between any NATO countries since its inception?

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                Interesting- one of the NKR soldiers in this piece had been previously conscripted/served in the Russian army (he is from Armavir originally). Glad to see it- veteran experience and obviously a patriotic Armenian.
                General Antranik (1865-1927): I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                  So how come there has not been any war between any NATO countries since its inception?
                  NATO serves as a security blanket for blantent aggression. The human rights laws conceived by its own members are meaningless to this organization because it is a dictatorship not a partnership. Look here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_v_Turkey and then ask yourself why on earth would NATO ever intervene on Armenia's behalf? A country's security is the most important thing that needs to be taken seriously, making decisions based on false hopes and wishful thinking is what brought us the genocide. I believe our people are being brainwashed today on a grand scale to make the exact same mistake we made before. I cannot imagine the result of these mistakes being any different then the results we had previously. Turkey was and still is our existential threat and one of the main components of NATO, Russia is Turkeys regional rival and the main target of NATO. Some things should not have to be explained, it really is sad that even when explained the level of brainwashing prevents some people from seeing reality for what it is. It was not NATO that prevented Turkey from attacking Armenia for over 90 years, it is not NATO that guards our border with our main enemy who is too scared to fire a single shot at us. If you think what is going on at the Azeri/Artsakh border is bad then what do you think would happen on our Turkey/Armenia border if Russians left? Brainwashing has been unbelievably effective on our people despite efforts from people like me trying to tell my people to simply look at reality and our own history to see the situation for what it really is.
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                    Originally posted by Joseph View Post
                    http://razm.info/83184

                    Interesting- one of the NKR soldiers in this piece had been previously conscripted/served in the Russian army (he is from Armavir originally). Glad to see it- veteran experience and obviously a patriotic Armenian.
                    This guy is from Syria. He's been in Armenia for 4 years.
                    In Syria they have a 2-year military service which is tough.

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                      Azerbaijan's economy is on the floor. Central budget spending down 37% year on year in the first quarter.

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