Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[gokorik]

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PRESIDENTS OF ARMENIA AND NKR VISITED DEFENSE POSITIONS LOCATED NEAR MATAGHIS AND TALISH

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As much as I dont like him its nice seeing the president on the frontline. Makes me think twice.

[armo12]

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Hmm Interesting stuff..

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Can someone translate this?oh and btw it's not accurate since there is no iskanders and buratinos in there

[armnuke]

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Can someone translate this?oh and btw it's not accurate since there is no iskanders and buratinos in there

Probably it was made before we got Iskanders.

[Azad]

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Can someone translate this?oh and btw it's not accurate since there is no iskanders and buratinos in there

Lower right corner "2012"

[burjuin]

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[haydavid]

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Im loving this reportage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5KHU2ZuYjQ

TV-channels really made great effort to make these kind of reportages after the 4day war.
Since the 4day war, we've had lot of great reportages from different channels or amators.
But isn't it a danger also? Aren't we showing too much?

[Spetsnaz]

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Հայաստանը միացել է ՌԴ-ի և Բելառուսի «Պաշտպանական համակարգեր» համաձայնագրին
Դեկտեմբեր 12, 2016

Հայաստանը ստորագրել է Ռուսաստանի և Բելառուսի «Պաշտպանական համակարգեր» միջպետական ֆինանսաարդյունաբերական խմբի ստեղծման 2000 թվականի փետրվարի 11-ի համաձայնագրին ՀՀ միանալու համաձայնագիրը։ Այս մասին հայտնում է ՀՀ ՊՆ կայքը։

Ստորագրված փաստաթղթերի հիմնական նպատակն է նպաստել ռազմական, երկակի ու քաղաքացիական նշանակության արտադրանքի համաշխարհային շուկայում բարձր տեխնոլոգիական և մրցունակ նմուշների ստեղծման ու արտադրության ուղղությամբ, ինչպես նաև նշված արտադրանքի գոյություն ունեցող նմուշների վերանորոգման և արդիականացման աշխատանքների (ծառայությունների) կատարման համար խմբի մասնակիցների, այդ թվում` ՀՀ արդյունաբերական ձեռնարկությունների գիտատեխնիկական, արտադրական, նորոգման և ներդրումային ներուժի առավելագույն օգտագործումը։

Փաստաթղթին Հայաստանի Հանրապետության միանալու հետ կապված առանձին արձանագրությամբ լրացումներ և փոփոխություններ են կատարվել 2000 թվականի փետրվարի 11-ին ստորագրված համաձայնագրում:

Նշենք, որ դեռևս 2014-ին փետրվարի 13-ին կայացած Հայաստանի կառավարության նիստի ժամանակ համաձայնություն էր տրվել Ռուսաստանի և Բելառուսի «Պաշտպանական համակարգեր» միջպետական ֆինանսաարդյունաբերական խմբի ստեղծման 2000 թվականի փետրվարի 11-ի համաձայնագրին ՀՀ միանալու համաձայնագրի կնքման առաջարկությանը:

«Պաշտպանական համակարգեր» ԲԲԸ-ն միավորում է ռուսաստանյան և բելառուսական ռազմարդյունաբերական ձեռնարկություններ։

http://razm.info/93217

[Hakob]

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This is the so-called "Union of Informed Citizens" anti-Russian to the bones.
They had propaganda campaigns against the Eurasian Union back in 2014, their videos can be found on Youtube.

Armnuke Jan, this might be coming from anti Russian circles right, but lot of people and sorry to say, you too, are missing on important points.
For those of us,who know Russians very well (to the bone, so to say) there are lot of questions to be answered.
I have lived in SSSR and know what Russification means. And also have lived thru and seen how Russians never stopped trying to wipe out all the small nation's memories and languages etc...
Since the first day Russians have stepped on any soil, they never stopped erasing locals cultures and russifying them.
Turks in the south were doing the same with sword and blood, but Russians have been doing the same by overwhelming locals with fake ( right, fake because lot of the essence of that culture I have seen diffrent in main Russia than what they were exporting to their colonies) culture.
We speak of many millions of us that Turks have killed. But never speak about untold numbers who were Russified and became Russians.
We withness this pressure daily, like fiew days ago Russian official demanding that Armenia should declare Russian as a second official language.
So, like in past ha?
Needless to say that this gap between diasporans and locals, in accepting one another is because as much as diaspora are westernised, so much the locals are Russified. Just very hard for most to notice it.
That is why Armenia's population has never accepted or welcomed diasporans behind money support or visa to get out opportunities.
Now let's get back to the topic.
I anderstand about joint air Defence. You get to use Russian advanced equipment.
But someone please explain me, what is the benefit for joint forces?
We have seen many times in history, where Russia got control of our military potential, and every time either nullifyed their benefit to Armenia, waisted Armenian's manpower or talent to it's own benefit on some far away lands or a couple of times used them to destroy their own country(like Armenian communists in Russian forces in ending our first republic).
The best ever Russians have is only letting those Armenian volunteers and enlisted soldiers "liberate" piece of homeland in "critically hopeless" situation, like Ejmiadzin, and then for 200 years pump our brains about how Russians came and saved us. Never mentioning about that 75% of that liberation has been done by Armenians themselfs.
So what is the benefit for this joint contingency now? I am not against it. But I have concerns about it. Aren't we giving full controll of entire turkey border to Russians? What are the guarantees that this force cannot disband on critical moment, like Russian army in wwI or turn to north to Georgia or to meddle in Armenia's internal affairs?
Funny thing is all the circles are reading on the bottom of cup or talking stupid.
But, I think every Armenian should "ask the right questions and demand the right answer" without being mixed in with russophobes.
Also, none of my thoughts have anythng to do with defending any Soros publications. Screw them...

[burjuin]

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[armnuke]

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Armnuke Jan, this might be coming from anti Russian circles right, but lot of people and sorry to say, you too, are missing on important points.
For those of us,who know Russians very well (to the bone, so to say) there are lot of questions to be answered.
I have lived in SSSR and know what Russification means. And also have lived thru and seen how Russians never stopped trying to wipe out all the small nation's memories and languages etc...
Since the first day Russians have stepped on any soil, they never stopped erasing locals cultures and russifying them.
Turks in the south were doing the same with sword and blood, but Russians have been doing the same by overwhelming locals with fake ( right, fake because lot of the essence of that culture I have seen diffrent in main Russia than what they were exporting to their colonies) culture.
We speak of many millions of us that Turks have killed. But never speak about untold numbers who were Russified and became Russians.
We withness this pressure daily, like fiew days ago Russian official demanding that Armenia should declare Russian as a second official language.
So, like in past ha?
Needless to say that this gap between diasporans and locals, in accepting one another is because as much as diaspora are westernised, so much the locals are Russified. Just very hard for most to notice it.
That is why Armenia's population has never accepted or welcomed diasporans behind money support or visa to get out opportunities.
Now let's get back to the topic.
I anderstand about joint air Defence. You get to use Russian advanced equipment.
But someone please explain me, what is the benefit for joint forces?
We have seen many times in history, where Russia got control of our military potential, and every time either nullifyed their benefit to Armenia, waisted Armenian's manpower or talent to it's own benefit on some far away lands or a couple of times used them to destroy their own country(like Armenian communists in Russian forces in ending our first republic).
The best ever Russians have is only letting those Armenian volunteers and enlisted soldiers "liberate" piece of homeland in "critically hopeless" situation, like Ejmiadzin, and then for 200 years pump our brains about how Russians came and saved us. Never mentioning about that 75% of that liberation has been done by Armenians themselfs.
So what is the benefit for this joint contingency now? I am not against it. But I have concerns about it. Aren't we giving full controll of entire turkey border to Russians? What are the guarantees that this force cannot disband on critical moment, like Russian army in wwI or turn to north to Georgia or to meddle in Armenia's internal affairs?
Funny thing is all the circles are reading on the bottom of cup or talking stupid.
But, I think every Armenian should "ask the right questions and demand the right answer" without being mixed in with russophobes.
Also, none of my thoughts have anythng to do with defending any Soros publications. Screw them...

Thanks for taking the time to write Hakob,
I am strictly against Russian language in Armenia.
Everytime I see a Russian cartoon on the Armenian TV channels I get a broken heart.
I prefer English and French (I speak French fluently) to Russian any day.
That lady who said Russian should be an official language can shove it up her arse, because that's not gonna happen even in her wet dreams.
We have to be very careful with Erdogan because he's shoving his army into any country he perceives as weak.
We have to play it smart, cunning, and keep our eyes open.
The level of Russification in Armenia right now (I'm speaking culture and language-wise) is pretty low, lower than the Arabisation I've seen in Lebanon and Syria. If it was alarming I wouldn't have moved here.
It's up to the us not to use Russian words when we speak Armenian, no one's forcing it and the words are available in Armenian
It makes me laugh that all these anti-Russian news websites we have here write Armenian articles using many Russian words LOL.