Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Federate]

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Another Serious Incident Reported on the Azeri – Karabakh Border
[ 17 November 2008 | 14:49 ] Karabakh |

According to Press Office of the NKR Defense Ministry, an Azeri military unit breached the south-eastern section of the conflict zone and attempted to make its way towards a position held by NKR border guards in the direction of Ashagh Seyidahmedli. A thirty minute firefight ensued after which enemy forces retreated, leaving one dead at the battle site. NKR forces suffered no causalities. This is the most serious breach by Azeri forces along the conflict zone after the events of March 3-4 of this year that took place in the vicinity of Levonarkh in the Martakert region.

From http://today.hetq.am/en/karabakh/ano...rabakh-border/

[Federate]

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"Azeri" side of the story
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Azerbaijani Defense Ministry: "Two Armenian soldiers and one Azerbaijani serviceman died during the fight"
17 November 2008 [16:54] - Today.Az
There occurred a clash between the Azerbaijani and Armenian soldiers on the night of Sunday.

Azerbaijani army soldier Orkhan Shamilov died in the result of fire at Azerbaijani positions by Armenians, locating in the occupied lands of Azerbaijan, said spokesman for Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan Eldar Sabiroghlu.

He noted that Shamilov, being on the army duty, tried to silence the enemy.

By the information, in several minutes of fire exchange, Shamilov, continuing the fire, raised on attack. In the result, he managed to terminate two soldiers. Shamilov died.

The enemy managed to take the killed soldiers from the fire exchange zone, while Shamilov's body was left near positions of the Armenian armed forces and the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan tries to get him out of there.

At the same time, Sabiroghlu refuted information of Armenian mass medias that Azerbaijani army divisions tried to cross the contact line and noted that the armed incident occurred for the reason of the violation of ceasefire regime by the Armenian side.

Shamilov was notably born in 1988 and was recruited by the military enlistment office of Terter in April of 2008.

/Day.Az/

URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/49044.html

[Armanen]

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I don't know whether azerbaijan's media is more absurd or that of north korea.
The bs that comes out of official baku and its state run media could easily be written by a 12 year old.

[KarotheGreat]

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"Azeri" side of the story
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Azerbaijani Defense Ministry: "Two Armenian soldiers and one Azerbaijani serviceman died during the fight"
17 November 2008 [16:54] - Today.Az
There occurred a clash between the Azerbaijani and Armenian soldiers on the night of Sunday.

Azerbaijani army soldier Orkhan Shamilov died in the result of fire at Azerbaijani positions by Armenians, locating in the occupied lands of Azerbaijan, said spokesman for Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan Eldar Sabiroghlu.

He noted that Shamilov, being on the army duty, tried to silence the enemy.

By the information, in several minutes of fire exchange, Shamilov, continuing the fire, raised on attack. In the result, he managed to terminate two soldiers. Shamilov died.

The enemy managed to take the killed soldiers from the fire exchange zone, while Shamilov's body was left near positions of the Armenian armed forces and the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan tries to get him out of there.

At the same time, Sabiroghlu refuted information of Armenian mass medias that Azerbaijani army divisions tried to cross the contact line and noted that the armed incident occurred for the reason of the violation of ceasefire regime by the Armenian side.

Shamilov was notably born in 1988 and was recruited by the military enlistment office of Terter in April of 2008.

/Day.Az/

URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/49044.html

So am I understanding this correct, we start shooting, two of our men die we kill one of theirs and we capture the body and they leave the body magically near our positions; I've got to say wow

[meline]

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You don't know the best part of the joke yet! The baboons just changed their version and now they claim he was killed while trying to desert his position

That's so pathetic and preposterous....and makes me laugh a big time


Azerbaijan's Deserted Serviceman Killed by Armenian Armed Forces (UPDATE)
17.11.08 12:29

Azerbaijan, Barda, 17 November / Trend News corr. Sh.Jaliloglu/ A serviceman who deserted from the Azerbaijani Army Shamilov tried to pass to the Armenian side but was killed by the soldiers of the Armenian Armed Forces, a law-enforcement source said to Trend News on 17 November.


According to another source, a soldier, who escaped from N military unit in the Fuzuli region (360km south-west of Baku), either passed to the Armenian side or was captured.


Orkhan Shamilov, who was conscripted to military service from the Terter Region Conscription Office in April 2008, escaped on 15 November with the gun entrusted to him.

Terter Police Office said to Trend News that they had suspended the search operations which were held on 15-16 November.


Azerbaijani Defence Ministry did not provide extra reports on the event.


On 8 October, serviceman Rafig Hasanov, 19, was captured by Armenians at the troops contact line under unknown circumstances.


The conflict between the two countries of the South Caucasus began in 1988 due to Armenian territorial claims against Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan lost the Nagorno-Karabakh, except of Shusha and Khojali, in December 1991. In 1992-93, Armenian Armed Forces occupied Shusha, Khojali and Nagorno-Karabakh’s seven surrounding regions. In 1994, Azerbaijan and Armenia signed a ceasefire agreement at which time the active hostilities ended. The countries keep on peace negotiating.


OSCE Minsk Group co-chaired by USA, Russia, France is engaged in peace settling of the conflict.

http://news.trendaz.com/index.shtml?show=news&newsid=1347361&lang=EN

[truAnatolian]

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What is wrong with these people? Know I see why you call them baboons, too bad those xxx guns didn't help them.

[UrMistake]

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is the world media see those lies,how can be stoped shuch stupid acts,these propaganda make me so angre i mean WTF,some times i think maybe a full scale war will shut them up for sure,i hate those bastards they cant act like men,whene it will be over we all have life whay to bother with them,they are like 8.000.000 retarded people from the most retarded vilage i can imagine,can u imagine in what kind of xxxxed up world they leave?This have to be stoped some 1 shuld do somthing,sue them,we have to worn others about these people i mean they are more dangerus for the planet even from the nukes,status quo sucks hard.

[Armenian]

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This is our biggest weapon in Artsakh...

Արցախյան ազգաին հարսանիկ: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=kcRCxvBvbuA

Azerbaijani army training hard http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=KEC-5m...eature=related

Russian speakers, please be kind enough to give us a little translation of the following two videos -

Russian Mercenaries Fighting For Azerbaijan Against Armenia: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=n1o7rj...eature=related

Armenian Fedayi Capturing azeri soldiers: http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=swVpvM...eature=related

[Federate]

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This is our biggest weapon in Artsakh...

Don't forget our chess team is a strong weapon as well... Armenia just beat team Azerbaboon at the World Chess Olympiad!

http://chess-results.info/tnr16314.aspx?art=20&lan=1&flag=30&m=-1&wi=800&snr=9

[Federate]

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Does anyone have any more information on this incident?
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Garakent tragedy turns 17
20 November 2008 [13:12] - Today.Az

This happened 17 years ago. There was not an official information, but mourning melody was sounded on TV, which was a sign of alert...

Later there appeared a list: Osman Mirzoyev, Ismen Gaibov, Mohammed Asadov, Tofik Ismaylov, Vagif Cafarov, Veli Mamedov, Aly Mustafayev...

This is a list of passengers of the air force helicopter Mi-8, knocked down by a heat-seeking missile near Garakent village on November 20 of 1991. Those, who will later be called "the prominent state figures of Azerbaijan" and those, to whom we bound the hopes for success in the just launched Karabakh war on November 19 and for the collapse of information blockade...

First, there appeared an official version: the helicopter crashed into a rock in the fog. The fact that he was knocked down was admitted several days later. It took us several years to eliminate all doubts and state that the missile, which knocked down Mi-8, was launched from Armenian positions. But there are too many "white spots" in the history of the last flight of Mi-8. It is still unclear why the helicopter with the state secretary, minister of internal affairs, general prosecutor, press secretary of the president and many others on board was not accompanied by "a fire support helicopter" and why all of them were in the same helicopter - it contradicts to all possible rules of security.

It is unclear how Armenian militants managed to get information about the exact route of flight, which only representatives of the command of Soviet troops had in Karabakh! It is unclear where they got a specialist, who can treat heat-seeking missiles. The source of the missile is also unclear - at that time the most popular weapon in Karabakh were hail guns and Alazan missiles. And it is far more unclear how could a tape in the black boxes of the Mi-8 helicopter burn off. The most possible explanation: a specialist arrived on the spot before the inspectors and power representatives and got rid the tape.

Understanding came later. Autumn of 1991 was a "time of great hopes" in the post-Soviet area. After August most people were confident that know everything will improve, while the bitter heritage of the former USSR will sank in oblivion. At that time, on the wave of post-August euphoria, there appeared a "Zheleznovodsk initiative" on reconciliation in the Karabakh - the same, according to which a cultural autonomy would be granted to Karabakh within Azerbaijan. A peacekeeping mission of Russia and Kazakhstan was launched in Karabakh and most people consider that it has more chances for execution than many further peaceful initiatives. This was not profitable either for apologists of the Armenian expansionism and those, who again attempted to "tie" Azerbaijan and Armenia to Moscow by using Karabakh and those, who attempted to earn on arms trade... At that time, it was necessary to frustrate the "Zheleznovodsk initiative" and the conflict resolution...

Yes, this is true. But there was another thing in this case, the very law of terrorism: when the target and the victims become prominent figures. Those, whose death will be painful for all. And those, whose "termination" will have a real impact on the development of events. It so happened, either deliberately or not, that they were on the board of the helicopter, which did not land on November 20 of 1991.

No one will ever learn how would events in Karabakh develop, if the missile did not reach the target. And the most tragic is that nothing could be different, as we could not imagine whom we were having a war with, being confident that we face not professional terrorists, trained in Lebanon and Syria, but local Karabakh Armenians, who listen to the nonsense of Balayan and people, similar to him. We believed in the guarantees, received from Russian "militants" without analyzing the interests of Moscow in Karabakh or its historical priorities. And the most terrible thing is that we seem not to understand it even now.

May them all rest in peace!

NURANI - Ekho newspaper archive

URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/49123.html