Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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Azerbaijani Armed Forces lost 12 servicemen last month

[ 05 Jun 2009 15:48 ]
Baku. Rashad Suleymanov – APA. Azerbaijani Armed Forces lost 12 servicemen in May because of various reasons. 9 servicemen were wounded or injured.

It was said at the press conference on the outcomes of May held by the Coalition for Public Control over Defense and Security sector, APA reports.

Member of the coalition, head of Military Analytical Studies Center Ildirim Mammadov said 2 servicemen were killed by Armenians, 6 died because of the reasons not included into the regulations, 2 died in the road accident, the death causes of 2 soldiers are not known yet. 164 were poisoned, 1 was captured last month.

“May was unsuccessful for the army. Poisoning was the culmination of the events. On May 23 a soldier killed his fellow soldiers in Seyfeli training ground, a soldier killed the commander, his fellow soldier and himself in Nakhchivan. All this requires increasing control over the situation in the Armed Forces,” he said.

Chairman of the coalition Yashar Jafarli said 35-40 servicemen of Azerbaijani Armed Forces died and about 20 injured in January-May in 2009. The losses increased by 62 percent compared with re reporting period of 2008. According to the coalition’s reports, 10 of them are battle losses (8 were killed by Armenians, 2 in mine blast), the rest are non-battle losses. 12 soldiers died because of the actions not included into the regulations, 2 died of disease, 2 servicemen committed suicide. Moreover, 2 servicemen died in the road accident and death causes of 2 soldiers are not known yet.

1 of them was the serviceman of State Border Service, the rest servicemen of the Defense Ministry.

The experts of the coalition consider that suicides and accidents in the Armed Forces are increasing. According to the experts’ calculations, 361 servicemen of Azerbaijani Armed Forces died within 77 months – in 2003-2009. 144 of them are battle losses (120 were killed by Armenians, 21 in mine and UXO blasts, 3 during operations), 217 are non-battle losses (46 committed suicide, 29 died in catastrophes, 72 as a result of non-regulatory actions, 51 in accidents, the causes of death of 19 servicemen are not known). 278 servicemen have been wounded and injured since 2003.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=103319

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Azerbaijani Armed Forces lost 12 servicemen last month

[ 05 Jun 2009 15:48 ]
Baku. Rashad Suleymanov – APA. Azerbaijani Armed Forces lost 12 servicemen in May because of various reasons. 9 servicemen were wounded or injured.

It was said at the press conference on the outcomes of May held by the Coalition for Public Control over Defense and Security sector, APA reports.

Member of the coalition, head of Military Analytical Studies Center Ildirim Mammadov said 2 servicemen were killed by Armenians, 6 died because of the reasons not included into the regulations, 2 died in the road accident, the death causes of 2 soldiers are not known yet. 164 were poisoned, 1 was captured last month.

“May was unsuccessful for the army. Poisoning was the culmination of the events. On May 23 a soldier killed his fellow soldiers in Seyfeli training ground, a soldier killed the commander, his fellow soldier and himself in Nakhchivan. All this requires increasing control over the situation in the Armed Forces,” he said.

Chairman of the coalition Yashar Jafarli said 35-40 servicemen of Azerbaijani Armed Forces died and about 20 injured in January-May in 2009. The losses increased by 62 percent compared with re reporting period of 2008. According to the coalition’s reports, 10 of them are battle losses (8 were killed by Armenians, 2 in mine blast), the rest are non-battle losses. 12 soldiers died because of the actions not included into the regulations, 2 died of disease, 2 servicemen committed suicide. Moreover, 2 servicemen died in the road accident and death causes of 2 soldiers are not known yet.

1 of them was the serviceman of State Border Service, the rest servicemen of the Defense Ministry.

The experts of the coalition consider that suicides and accidents in the Armed Forces are increasing. According to the experts’ calculations, 361 servicemen of Azerbaijani Armed Forces died within 77 months – in 2003-2009. 144 of them are battle losses (120 were killed by Armenians, 21 in mine and UXO blasts, 3 during operations), 217 are non-battle losses (46 committed suicide, 29 died in catastrophes, 72 as a result of non-regulatory actions, 51 in accidents, the causes of death of 19 servicemen are not known). 278 servicemen have been wounded and injured since 2003.

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=103319

and then they complain about the conditions in the Armenian army.

Today.Az » Politics » Azerbaijani Defense Ministry: Armenian soldiers pass to Azerbaijani territory in groups

05 June 2009 [16:38] - Today.Az

Armenian Defense Ministry has spread a statement regarding the video tape of Armenian soldiers Ohan Harutyunyan and Gevorg Tomasyan, captured by Azerbaijanis, in which the Ministry states that the special forces of Azerbaijan attempt to raise the influence of their army by way of provocations.

In this connection, Day.Az correspondent contacted official of the press service for the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan Teymur Abdullayev who said:

"It is clear that Armenia will not say anything positive about us. Armenian soldiers pass to Azerbaijan. And their transfer was on a goodwill basis. The recent transfer of two soldiers of the Armenian armed forces again proves the unbearable conditions within their army, like Armenian soldiers say.

It is significant that immediately after the transfer to our territory Armenian servicemen criticize their army. And in order to find way out of this situation, Armenia merely has to make such statements", noted Teymur Abdullayev.

Notably, on May 31 of 2009 at about 12:00, soldiers of division No 38862 of the military unit of the armed forces of Armenia Ohan Harutyunyan (born in 1991) and Gevorg Tomosyan (born in 1991) passed to Azerbaijani side on a goodwill basis.

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URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/52916.html

maybe they should concentrate on their army instead of getting involved with the Armenian army.

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and then they complain about the conditions in the Armenian army.

Today.Az » Politics » Azerbaijani Defense Ministry: Armenian soldiers pass to Azerbaijani territory in groups

05 June 2009 [16:38] - Today.Az

Armenian Defense Ministry has spread a statement regarding the video tape of Armenian soldiers Ohan Harutyunyan and Gevorg Tomasyan, captured by Azerbaijanis, in which the Ministry states that the special forces of Azerbaijan attempt to raise the influence of their army by way of provocations.

In this connection, Day.Az correspondent contacted official of the press service for the Defense Ministry of Azerbaijan Teymur Abdullayev who said:

"It is clear that Armenia will not say anything positive about us. Armenian soldiers pass to Azerbaijan. And their transfer was on a goodwill basis. The recent transfer of two soldiers of the Armenian armed forces again proves the unbearable conditions within their army, like Armenian soldiers say.

It is significant that immediately after the transfer to our territory Armenian servicemen criticize their army. And in order to find way out of this situation, Armenia merely has to make such statements", noted Teymur Abdullayev.

Notably, on May 31 of 2009 at about 12:00, soldiers of division No 38862 of the military unit of the armed forces of Armenia Ohan Harutyunyan (born in 1991) and Gevorg Tomosyan (born in 1991) passed to Azerbaijani side on a goodwill basis.

/Day.Az/

URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/52916.html

maybe they should concentrate on their army instead of getting involved with the Armenian army.

Soldiers pass over simply because they are sick of fighting in the war. It happens in any conflict, not everyone wants to fight so they cross the border to escape it. Some soldiers become heavily treasonous towards their home country like the ones in this article many have done to help themselves personally, while some people quietly go over, make a brief statement to the media and move on with their lives in the new country.

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here is an interesting video i found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVGyfRwUFmU&feature=channel_page

apparently Georgia was attacked by azerbaijan in june.

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here is an interesting video i found on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVGyfRwUFmU&feature=channel_page

apparently Georgia was attacked by azerbaijan in june.

Are they speaking Russian? If so, could you give us a brief translation of what they are saying?

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Despite Armenia's will, CSTO participating countries to prevent CRRF interference in regional conflicts: experts

10.06.09 11:10 Despite Armenia's will, CSTO participating countries to prevent CRRF interference in regional conflicts: experts

Azerbaijan, Baku, June 9 /Trend News, E.Tariverdiyeva/

The Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) participating countries will prevent the interference by the Collective rapid reaction forces (CRRF) in domestic regional conflicts, despite of Armenians will.

"The probability of interference of CRRF in the Nagorno-Karabakh is zero," Azerbaijani political scientist Tofig Abbasov said.

At a meeting with Russian President Dmitry Medvedev CSTO Secretary General Nikolai Bordyuzha informed the president that a package of documents to the next summit of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, which will be held on June 14, has already been prepared. The document includes an agreement on CRRF, annexes concerning the issues of command, rules of conduct, documents that define the composition of military units belonging to CRRF and a roster of forces, RIA Novosti reported.

The decision to form the CRRF was made at the February summit of the CSTO in Moscow.

Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan are members of the CSTO.

According to Bordyuzha, CRRF is not occupied with regional conflicts of CSTO participating countries.

Armenia is not satisfied with the decision, considering that the CRRF group must defense CSTO countries of local conflicts.

"Yerevan is interested in a logic question what will be CSTO's reaction in case of military aggression to Armenia by its eastern neighbor. The answer that we have heard (the reaction will be reserved or neutral) does not satisfy us," senior official of Armenian Foreign Ministry told the Vrema Novostei newspaper, who asked to remain anonymous.

The conflict between the two South Caucasus countries began in 1988 when Armenia made territorial claims against Azerbaijan. Armenian armed forces have occupied 20 percent of Azerbaijan since 1992, including the Nagorno-Karabakh region and 7 surrounding districts.

Azerbaijan and Armenia signed a ceasefire agreement in 1994. The co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group - Russia, France, and the U.S. - are currently holding the peace negotiations.

Despite Armenia's will, CSTO participating countries will refuse the interference of CRRF in local conflicts.

Armenia seeks a clarification of the rapid reaction force's potential use in the South Caucasus region, and wants a military security guarantee from the CSTO that the force can be used to defend Armenia "in times of crisis," reflecting Armenia's threat perception form both Azerbaijan and Turkey, Armenian political scientist Richard Giragosian said.

The CSTO will most likely neither provide Armenia with the specific military guarantee that it seeks nor will it become any sort of pressure against Azerbaijan.

Moscow seems to have a pronounced tendency to improve relations with Baku, Giragosian said.

"Moscow may even see a need to entice Azerbaijan to seek some sort of cooperation with the CSTO over the long term, and will not adopt any decision that could turn the CSTO into any kind of balance of counter against Azerbaijani interests in the region," Director of the Armenian Center for National and International Studies Richard Giragosian wrote to Trend News in an email.

Relations of Azerbaijan and Russia will not damage regardless of decision to be made at the upcoming meeting of the CSTO, Azerbaijani Political Scientist Abbasov believes.

"Russia is interested that its peacekeeping potential will play a decisive role in the Karabakh crisis settlement," Expert of the Lider TV Analytical Group Abbasov told Trend News. "Russia's building partnership relations with Azerbaijan relies on basic interests."

He said just these interests have a direct impact on a safety reserve regarding presence in the South Caucasus, as well as the fate of the global and long-term economic plans.


Observers believe not only Russia, but also the countries of Central Asia will not allow the use of collective rapid reaction forces, desired by Armenia.

The CSTO participants, particularly the countries of Central Asia do not want to assume military responsibilities and to intervene in the conflicts of two other states, said Kazakh political analyst Dosim Satpayev.

"The remained participants of the CSTO will unlikely support the use of the collective rapid reaction forces in the inter-state conflicts," Director of the Risk Assessment Group Satpayev said to Trend News by telephone from Astana. "It does not meet the interest of other participants in the organization, particularly, the countries of Central Asia."


During a recent meeting of Defense Ministers of Collective Security Treaty Organization in Moscow, Uzbekistan also opposed the concept of the collective rapid reaction forces, precisely because, Uzbekistan believes these forces have even too many opportunities and powers that be a regional provider on safety, he said.

"If Armenia insists on strengthening of these forces, then Uzbekistan, by contrast, supports those forces to be under control and less involved in issues related to the security of sovereign states, on which Russia," Satpayev said.


Armenia may just stay with its opinion on the matter, said the expert. "I do not think it will be able to provide some pressure on the process, because Armenia has no leverage on the countries of Central Asia," Satpayev said.

As to aggression actions that may cause intervention for the collective rapid reaction to be formed, the situation around the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict has its own characteristics. The act of aggression has already been committed more than 15 years ago, which has been clearly indicated in four UN resolutions, Abbasov said.


"If Azerbaijan decides to liberate its occupied territories due to failure of mediator-countries' peace efforts, this will become an action of compelling to peace as it was done by Russia during the crisis in South Ossetia," Abbasov said.

http://news-en.trend.az/karabakh/1485439.html

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Are they speaking Russian? If so, could you give us a brief translation of what they are saying?

from what my parents said, the guy said around 4:00 he saw a fighter jet come from azerbaijan. i didnt understand the rest, i sent a message to the guy who posted it asking if he could translate the rest. ill keep u guys updated.

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Proposed removal of U.S. trade restrictions for Azerbaijan questioned

Former Sen. Henry Jackson, who co-authored trade restrictions legislation with Rep. Charles Vanik.

Washington, - Armenian organizations are questioning the rationale and timing for the efforts to remove Soviet-era trade sanctions against Azerbaijan – commonly referred to as the Jackson-Vanik amendment.

On June 4 Reps. Robert Wexler (D.-Fla.) and Bill Shuster (R.-Pa.), who co-chair the Turkey and Azerbaijan caucuses, respectively, introduced House Resolution 2742 "to authorize the extension of nondiscriminatory treatment (normal trade relations treatment) to the products of Azerbaijan," which would terminate the restriction vis-ŕ-vis Azerbaijan. The bill has since been referred to the House Ways and Means Committee.

Azerbaijan and all other former Soviet republics and satellite states inherited the restriction in the aftermath of the Soviet breakup. It was originally intended to promote human rights, particularly freedom of emigration. Rarely enforced, it has been a symbolic measure and successive U.S. presidents have annually waived the restriction.

Jackson-Vanik restrictions had been previously removed for former Soviet republics that joined or were about to join the World Trade Organization (WTO). Although Azerbaijan first applied for WTO membership in 1997, it has until now showed little interest in joining the group.

"The consideration of this ill-timed legislation would afford Members of Congress a valuable opportunity to review Azerbaijan's unacceptable behavior on a range of issues – from its arms build-up and its threats of renewed aggression against Armenia to its authoritarian political system and systematic destruction of Christian Armenian cultural heritage," Aram Hamparian of the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA) told the Armenian Reporter.

Ross Vartian of the U.S.-Armenia Public Affairs Committee (USAPAC) added, "The United States cannot grant Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) to a nation like Azerbaijan that blockades another nation, Armenia, in violation of U.S. law."

The Obama administration has not yet taken a public position on the proposed legislation.

Meanwhile, the State Department's incoming assistant secretary for political-military affairs, Andrew Shapiro, praised Azerbaijan for "cooperating in good faith" in the Karabakh peace process and indicated that the United States would continue security assistance to Azerbaijan, the ANCA reported on June 10.

The comment came as part of Mr. Shapiro's confirmation process and was in response to questions from Sen. Barbara Boxer (D.-Calif.) who raised the issue of Azerbaijani war threats against Armenia and continued U.S. security assistance to Azerbaijan.

http://www.reporter.am/go/article/2009-06-12-proposed-removal-of-u-s--trade-restrictions-for-azerbaijan-questioned

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Keep in mind folks, this is the alleged neutral mediator. Let's also not forget that he's married to a prominent Turk. Why is Armenia not demanding his replacement? Go figure.
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Bryza may become US Ambassador in Azerbaijan?

13.06.2009 19:23 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ American MG Co-Chair Mathew Bryza, deputy to Assistant Secretary of State, is recommended as U.S. ambassador to Azerbaijan, American Foreign Policy journal reports.

Recommendation for Bryza’s new appointment was given by former US Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Fried.

Fried and Bryza declined to comment, according to Foreign Policy.

http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=33036

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Keep in mind folks, this is the alleged neutral mediator. Let's also not forget that he's married to a prominent Turk. Why is Armenia not demanding his replacement? Go figure.
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Bryza may become US Ambassador in Azerbaijan?

13.06.2009 19:23 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ American MG Co-Chair Mathew Bryza, deputy to Assistant Secretary of State, is recommended as U.S. ambassador to Azerbaijan, American Foreign Policy journal reports.

Recommendation for Bryza’s new appointment was given by former US Assistant Secretary of State Daniel Fried.

Fried and Bryza declined to comment, according to Foreign Policy.

http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=33036

i am surprised why Armenia hasnt asked for him to be replaced. He should have been replaced the first time he said he was for azerbaijans territorial integrity.