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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
    Off topic.....this thread is about Artsakh, and the balance the Armenian soldiers must keep and the weapons used to defend it. It is more of a military thread than a political one.
    A new definition you coined two seconds ago? Total bullxxxx, this topic is made to discuss the current military balance between Armenia & Azerbaijan, and a large part of the military balance has by definition to do with (political) agreements, signed deals, and other "political" stuff. Let's end this senseless discussion.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 10-14-2011, 12:19 AM.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      ARMENIANS CONTINUE MILITARY EXERCISE IN OCCUPIED LANDS

      news.az, Azerbaijan
      Oct 12 2011

      The Armenian armed forces continue the large scale military exercises
      in the occupied Azerbaijani lands.

      The next stage of the exercises by using heavy artillery and armors
      have started today at 11.00. Along with the frontline residential
      settlements, the blasts are heard in the villages of Terter, Agjabadi
      and Barda regions bordering on Agdam.

      The military sources reported that the various military formations
      are involved in the large-scale exercises of Armenians which have
      been continuing for 3 days.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        2012 Թ. ՀԱՅԱՍՏԱՆՈՒՄ ԿԱՆՑԿԱՑՎԵՆ ՀԱՊԿ ՕՊԵՐԱՏԻՎ ԱՐՁԱԳԱՆՔՄԱՆ ՀԱՎԱՔԱԿԱՆ ՈՒԺԵՐԻ ԶՈՐԱՎԱՐԺՈՒԹՅՈՒՆՆԵՐ

        ԱԱԽ քարտուղար Արթուր Բաղդասարյանն ընդունել է Հավաքական անվտանգության պայմանագրի կազմակերպության գլխավոր քարտուղարի տեղակալ Վալերի Սեմերիկովին:

        Հանդիպման ընթացքում քննարկվել է 2011 թ. օգոստոսի 12-ին Աստանայում կայացած ՀԱՊԿ անդամ-պետությունների նախագահների ոչ պաշտոնական հանդիպման ընթացքում ձեռք բերված պայմանավորվածությունների իրականացման ընթացքը: Այդ նպատակով երեք սեկցիոն նիստերով հոկտեմբերի 17-ին Մոսկվայում կազմակերպվելու են անվտանգության խորհուրդների քարտուղարների տեղակալների, արտաքին գործերի եւ պաշտպանության նախարարների տեղակալների խորհրդատվություններ եւ քննարկումներ` ըստ գործունեության ուղղությունների:

        Կողմերը քննարկել են նաեւ ս.թ. հոկտեմբերի 6-ին Ղրղզստանի Հանրապետությունում կայացած` ՀԱՊԿ ռազմատնտեսական համագործակցության միջպետական հանձնաժողովի հերթական նիստի արդյունքները: Նիստի ընթացքում քննարկվել են միջպետական ռազմատնտեսական համագործակցության խթանմանն ուղղված հարցերի լայն շրջանակ:

        Հանդիպման ընթացքում պայմանավորվածություն է ձեռք բերվել նոյեմբեր ամսին Երեւանում կազմակերպել հայ-ռուսական ռազմատեխնիկական համագործակցության զարգացման նպատակով աշխատաժողով:

        Քննարկվել են նաեւ 2012 թ. Հայաստանի Հանրապետության տարածքում անցկացվելիք ՀԱՊԿ օպերատիվ արձագանքման հավաքական ուժերի զորավարժության կազմակերպման հարցեր: Վ. Սեմերիկովը նշել է, ՀԱՊԿ քարտուղարությունը պատրաստակամ է ըստ ամենայնի աջակցել հայկական կողմին զորավարժության կազմակերպման ընթացքում` անհրաժեշտության դեպքում նաեւ Հայաստան գործուղելով համապատասխան աշխատակիցների: Արթուր Բաղդասարյանն ընդգծել է ՀԱՊԿ օպերատիվ արձագանքման հավաքական ուժերի կազմի մեջ մտնող բոլոր բաղադրիչների` զորակազմերի, ոստիկանության, ազգային անվտանգության, արտակարգ իրավիճակների ստորաբաժանումների լիարժեք ներգրավման անհրաժեշտության կարեւորությունը` զորավարժության նախապատրաստման աշխատանքներին առավել արդյունավետ ընթացք հաղորդելու նպատակով: Զորավարժությունն ընդգրված է 2012 թ. աշխատանքային պլաններում եւ կազմակերպվելու է Հավաքական անվտանգության պայմանագրի 20-ամյակին նվիրված միջոցառումների շրջանակներում:

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          «ԱԶԳ» ՕՐԱԹԵՐԹ #183, 14-10-2011


          ԳԻՐՔ` ՇԱՀԵՆ ՄԵՂՐՅԱՆԻ ՄԱՍԻՆ

          Լույս է տեսել Աշոտ Պետրոսյանի` ազատագրական շարժման գործիչ Շահեն Մեղրյանի մասին պատմող ,«Մեծն Շահեն» գիրքը: - Գրքում լուսաբանվում են հայդուկապետ Շահեն Մեղրյանի կենսագրության էջերը, Շահումյանում ազատագրական պայքարի ծավալումը, հերոսի ծննդավայրի եւ Գյուլիստանի մելիքության պատմա-աշխարհագրական առանձնահատկությունները: ,Շահենենց ընտանիքը տիպական օրինակն է գյուլիստանցիների ավանդական կենցաղավարության, ամրության, հաստատակամության,- գրում է Պետրոսյանը` հավելելով, թե քանի որ Մեղրյանը պատմական դեմք է, ուստի եւ նպատակահարմար է նրա կենսագործունեությունն ու հոգեբարոյական կերպարը կապել իր պատմաաշխարհագրական միջավայրին:

          Գրքի շնորհանդեսը տեղի կունենա այսօրՙ ԵՊՀ պատմության ֆակուլտետում, ժամը 12-ին:

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            Simply pathetic...........
            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            If Armenians united, Armenian organizations united, Armenians lobbies united.........
            And then ....

            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            Most Armenians are politically immature emotional creatures, and just don't want to understand that today.........
            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            If not for the self-hating Armenian peasants, the pro-Western fanatics.........
            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            And it is always the same stupid arguments.........
            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            You stupid, emotional morons.........
            Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
            (Again, for the peasant morons,.........

            What a flag bearer of Armenian unity !!!!!!

            Your "unity " sounds like the failed Communist unity with no freedom of though and expression.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              Your "unity " sounds like the failed Communist unity with no freedom of though and expression.
              I sketch how it ought to be. Armenians working against the interest of Armenia and promote the destruction of the Armenian state (some without their own knowledge) should be dealt with accordingly. If their actions are stupid, it should be called stupid, nothing wrong with that. It's not an emotional love story I am promoting. Anyways, it has nothing to do with "freedom" of "thought" or "expression", on numerous occasions I have stated the problem lies with the pro-Western fanatics, who actively work against state in interests of Armenia supported by Western (and indirectly the Turkic) world.

              It's always funny how the likes of you never want to discuss the points I make in-depth, but always talk around it on some other totally not relevant stupid "points".

              First you say

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              Armenian ....
              Then

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              failed .....
              You say Armenians are failed? Hey, I just ignore your whole story, the points you try make, take out a few words, and the only thing I can do is respond to this!

              Haha, simply pathetic.
              Last edited by Tigranakert; 10-14-2011, 02:16 AM.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Please, Get back to topic guys.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Armenian peacekeepers in Kosovo:







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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    The Missing Soldiers of the Nagorno-Karabakh war


                    Some of the many missing people from the Nagorno-Karabakh war

                    In 1994 a ceasefire was declared in the Nagorno-Karabagh war which provided a much needed respite to the killing that had taken place in the region over the previous 6 years. The politicians have continued to talk since the cessation of activities to bring this conflict to a final resolution. However, a final peace agreement is not substantially closer, with both sides spending large proportions of their public budgets on military equipment and manpower as a show of strength. Over the last 17 years the 150,000+ people of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic have slowly re-built the infrastructure of their major cities, and returned to some semblance of normality in their daily lives.


                    War brings death and each one is a personal tragedy for the families involved, and forever thereafter they will remember the proud family member who went to fight for their country. The act of remembrance never fades, helped by the closure of mourning, and the knowledge of the location of the resting place; a prescence, somewhere, for the survivors to address their thoughts and emotions.

                    Modern war is usually covered by international conventions and post-conflict procedures deal with the return of prisoners of war. The Nagorno-Karabakh War was not perfect, or conventional, and both sides were involved in the exchanging and trafficking of personnel to secure the release of their soldiers, dead or alive. This turned the theatre of war into a bazaar for trading commodities.

                    The Grigoryan family of Stepanakert suffered, like many fellow citizens, the constant bombing and sniping from the Azeri troops in their small back-street house. All around them, buildings and lives were being destroyed; neighbours were receiving news from the military of the sad loss of their menfolk ; bodies were being re-patriated and funerals were taking place.

                    In 1994, their son Felix, was a young man of 23, an accomplished musician, with great prospects. They were looking forward to their old age, and their son, they knew, would be there to look after them. He was part of a 7 man unit carrying out an operation near Fizuli ( part of occupied Azerbaijan) when, one day, he disappeared without trace. The limited investigation was not able to confirm whether he had been killed, or captured; there was no evidence, only the fact that he never returned home.

                    Whilst their neighbours have re-built their lives, theirs remain, forever empty, but hopeful. Every conceivable possibility of what may have happened to him represents an opportunity for a return. On one occasion they received a mysterious call from a man who announced that he would visit them shortly, and that he would be known to them – cruelly the whole episode turned out to be a mistake. Their dreams are regularly punctuated by scenarios where he returns home, only to be snatched away, and for reality to surface and darken their day. The monochrome picture of their handsome son, is always present, frozen, for his proud parents to remember his, and their, sacrifice, but there is nowhere to place the flowers, or to visit.


                    (left to right) Eduard Grigoryan, Lena Grigoryan, Rosa Avagyan

                    There are over 700 more stories like the Grigoryan’s, and it is quite likely that a proportion of these men will be dead, however more sinister possibilities are a reality. Evidence exists ( I have seen the original of one letter) that people are being held in Azerbaijan, against their will, and that ransoms are being requested for their release. There are also views that the Armenian men, captured in Azerbaijan, have had to take action to save themselves, and integrate within Azeri life, now feel too ashamed to return. Lack of correct identity papers would also mean that obtaining a passport, or finance, would be impossible, thus neutralising the key ingredients for a return to Armenia.

                    The NKR Government have not had the time or resources to investigate these cases, and whilst there is a Centre for Missing Persons in Stepanakert, this is not adequately funded or resourced and is more of a museum than a centre for serious investigation.

                    The trafficking and exchanging of soldiers during and after the war, was a reality, and the good work of Albert Voskanyan who I met in Stepanakert secured the release of 500 men and 150 bodies by working directly with the Azeris. In such a chaotic environment that this war precipitated, clear accounting of all personnel seemed to be a casualty, and the tragic consequence of some being inevitably missed, a reality.

                    Whilst the Grigoryan’s continue to wait, hope and pray for their son’s return, another 700 families are suffering the same torment and the “needle” of quality information in the “haystack” of confusion gets more difficult to find as each year passes.
                    In 1994 a ceasefire was declared in the Nagorno-Karabagh war which provided a much needed respite to the killing that had taken place in the region over the previous 6 years. The politicians have c…

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                      Officer of Azerbaijani Army sentenced to 9-year imprisonment

                      [ 13 Oct 2011 18:18 ]
                      Baku. Hafiz Heydarov – APA. The officer of the Azerbaijani Army was sentenced by Baku Military Court, APA reports.

                      Senior Lieutenant of the National Army Ziyafet Hasanov is accused of corruption crime. Baku Military Court proved Hasanov’s guilt on the Criminal Code’s article №311 (bribery) and sentenced him to 9-year imprisonment.
                      apa.az

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