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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    20 SOLDIERS KILLED IN CEASEFIRE VIOLATION IN 2011 - OSCE OFFICIAL

    Tert.am
    16:27 ~U 14.10.11

    The violations of the ceasefire accord on the Contact Line between
    and Azerbaijan claimed two dozen soldiers' lives in 2011, according
    to the personal representative of the OSCE chairperson-in-office.

    At the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly's fall session in Dubrovnik,
    Croatia, Andrzej Kasprzyk said a total of 20 Armenian and Azerbaijani
    soldiers were killed and some 36 were injured in the ceasefire
    violations on the border.

    According to the Azerbaijani news agency SalamNews, the OSCE official
    characterized the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict an unsettled rather than
    a frozen dispute.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      I wonder what Russia thinks about Armenia purchasing weapons from a Russian adversary - Moldova. Or are they in on this deal?
      Azerbaboon: 9.000 Google hits and counting!

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        This deal is a minor deal, in real terms.
        But Russia is furious, because it is a deal out of its control.
        A kind of 'furious jealousy'...., it was same in past for a similar minor deal from central Asia some years ago, Bishkek, if I do remember well.
        There was a quite detailed article on it, in Armenian, I have posted....
        The 'zagvogh', Niv. Gazeta = Russian apparatus official channel.

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          Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
          This deal is a minor deal, in real terms.
          But Russia is furious, because it is a deal out of its control.
          A kind of 'furious jealousy'...., it was same in past for a similar minor deal from central Asia some years ago, Bishkek, if I do remember well.
          There was a quite detailed article on it, in Armenian, I have posted....
          The 'zagvogh', Niv. Gazeta = Russian apparatus official channel.
          You'd think that they were pissed off, especially considering that it was RT that leaked much of the news to the Internet while using a dubious title for its article. But I am wondering how can Armenia get those kinds of weapons for such low/discounted prices from poor Moldova? Especially considering that Moldova is part of the joke called GUAM. Russian sponsored deal?
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            I was talking to my father about this topic you are discussing. He said every time a political body changes in a country the political calculations also changes. Soviet Union wanted to keep its borders intact so when Armenians started fighting in Karabagh they were on the side of the Azeris fighting the Armenians. After the communism got destroyed the Russia of today wants to use friendly alliance with Armenia to keep Turks and NATO out of the Kavkaz. This is where our chance is make Armenia strong because maybe in the future Russia will get destroyed again and again Armenia will be let alone in this world surrounded by enemies. to I agree with my father.

            Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
            Actually, the Russian Federation (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) considered that it WAS the Soviet Union, and the post-Soviet Russian Federation is all but identical to the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, including having its territorial / military / political ambitions. Russia didn't want an indpendent Armenia to emerge - never in Russia's history has it supported an independent Armenia. However, faced with the reality of that independence, Russia still desires Armenia to be within its influence, and is willing to pay to get it. Armenia just has watch it doesn't give away too much to get too little. But you are right to remind us that today is not 20 years ago, or 40 years ago, or 80, or 100. And 20 years from now things probably won't be the same as today.
            Bro a lot of your sources are opposition sources I dont trust them at all. If you think Moscow is not in on the deal between Moldova and Armenia you have a lot of growing up to do.

            Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
            This deal is a minor deal, in real terms.
            But Russia is furious, because it is a deal out of its control.
            A kind of 'furious jealousy'...., it was same in past for a similar minor deal from central Asia some years ago, Bishkek, if I do remember well.
            There was a quite detailed article on it, in Armenian, I have posted....
            The 'zagvogh', Niv. Gazeta = Russian apparatus official channel.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
              This is the limit. Generally, the power is not defined through its territory? You don’t seem to understand even the basic facts, yet you think you have a clear knowledge of the geopolitical situation Armenia is in now? It’s just unbelievable.
              That was a quote from the Armenian President, I didn't say it. :facepalm:
              it is obvious who is not reading whos post properly.

              Tigranakert you are out of control, stop trolling and trying to derail this thead into Russian Armenian relations. The topic is about Nagorno Karabakh and the military balance with Azerbaijan.
              B0zkurt Hunter

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                Originally posted by eddo211 View Post

                tigranakert you are out of control, stop trolling and trying to derail this thead into russian armenian relations. The topic is about nagorno karabakh and the military balance with azerbaijan.
                x2......

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                  Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                  That was a quote from the Armenian President, I didn't say it. :facepalm:
                  it is obvious who is not reading whos post properly.
                  Indeed, I have misread your post, as I thought it was your own personal opinion. I was already thinking why the text sounded so familiar. In that context of his, it remains a statement intended for the youth, not to take seriously.

                  Tigranakert you are out of control, stop trolling and trying to derail this thead into Russian Armenian relations. The topic is about Nagorno Karabakh and the military balance with Azerbaijan.
                  Probably this is the only response you can give, as you can't give answers to my previous posts. The only thing you do is talk around it. Furthermore, this topic is about the Military Balance between Armenia (Nagorno-Karabakh) and Azerbaijan, everything which affects the military balance can be discussed, including Russian-Armenian strategic (military) relations, as a matter of fact, talking about the military balance is impossible without taking into account the strategic partnership Armenia has with Russia. Get used to it. : palmface :

                  (As a matter of fact, on the first page of this topic, Russia has been mentioned 53 times)
                  Last edited by Tigranakert; 10-15-2011, 11:23 AM.

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                      Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                      Selling the 300s to the azeris is giving them a defencive weapon against air attacks and do i need to remind you that armenia is on defence now and not offence and that our airforce is almost nonexistant?

                      Vrej and others seem to miss the point that russia owes armenia nothing! It is Armenia that owes russia its very existance.

                      You can beat around the bushes all you like the bottom line is russia does not have to do xxxx for us but we have to keep it engaged for our very survival. This is not nostelgia nor delusion but it is the fact which exists today. .
                      1- Dear, how old are you?
                      2- You need to read, or to understand what you read, before typing.
                      3- You need to reevaluate the specifications of S300, have a better idea of the geostrategic situation, balance and quality of arsenals, and have a knowledge of Aliyev mentality.

                      This deal was plain betrayal, nothing can justify from an Armenian point of view. If there is a war today, this particular deal will cost us thousands of lives...
                      By signing this deal, Russia created first serious anti russian mood in Yerevan's mattering circles, and even managed to raise doubts in Stepankert.

                      Aside from the efforts it has done since, Russia needs to do a lot YET, to compensate.

                      4- Be kind enough to respect the truce agreed with Tikranakert, and stop unecessary russophiliya(or any other) and declarations of one way love in this thread. The only non rational sentiments accepted here are the ones concerning turks...
                      Last edited by Vrej1915; 10-15-2011, 02:58 PM.

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