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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    [QUOTE=Aslanov;274300]2 AzAF Mig-25 (Long range Interceptor/Reconnaissance/Bomber) & 1 Su-24.




    3 AzAf Mig-29 & 6 AzAF Su-25.





    Azeris fly such loose formations.....does not say much for piloting skills.
    B0zkurt Hunter

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      I see an issue from what you say. You can't be both Azerbaijani and Avar. You can be Avar with Azerbaijani citizenship. Turks want people to loose their identity. That's what they are doing to Avars and Lezgins in Azerbaijan. What's on your passport in "Nationality" section? Azerbaijani.... That's what they want you to do, to identify yourself as an Azerbaijani instead of a simply Azerbaijani citizen. If they succeed, something what already happened to Azeries will happen to Avars in the future. They will be "Proud to be Turk". Azeries in Azerbaijan dislike admiting that they used to be a Persian tribe before they got Turkified. While Azeries in Iran look at it differently. Perhaps that's why they dislike each other.

      I say all Caucasians should get up and kick their ass for what they did/do/will do!

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        There are some places like Lahij and Absheron were it is originally Tats, a Persian tribe. Only Tats in Azerbaijan are from Persians. You can't really say that Azeris are Persians.

        In my eyes, they are closer to Armenians then anything else. (I know, it may be offensive). However, i must add that Azeris themselves differ from region to region. I have been over all of Azerbaijan.

        I m Avar with Azerbaijani citizenship, yes.
        Last edited by Aslanov; 07-11-2009, 08:36 PM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post

          Azeris fly such loose formations.....does not say much for piloting skills.
          Can you tell me about Armenias future military plans?
          Last edited by Aslanov; 07-11-2009, 08:43 PM.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by Aslanov View Post
            Can you tell me about Armenias future military plans?
            Future military plans? Everything Armenia is doing right now is just to secure our survival as a state, it is suicidal to become ambitious when you can lose your entire nation's freedom with one small bad move.

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              Originally posted by Aslanov View Post
              Can you tell me about Armenias future military plans?
              jgk3 is right. what we do is to insure Armenia's and Artsakh's safety. We are not going to start the war, we didnt start the first war, we defended ourselves from an azeri aggression. Our flight plans are to shoot down on coming azeri plains.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Aslanov View Post
                Can you tell me about Armenias future military plans?
                I cannot tell whats the Armenian military plans.
                I for one beleive it's better to have Azerbaijan as enemy against which we can defend rather than a friend against against which we cannot defend.

                Karabagh is the foundation of that strategy.
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  Originally posted by Aslanov View Post
                  Can you tell me about Armenias future military plans?
                  Aslanov

                  I do not know about the Armenian military plans since I am not part of the military in any shape or form.
                  I only know one plan which I will indulge on the conditon you remind as many Azerbaijanis as possible.

                  The Karabagh defence doctrine states that the buffer zone (cordon sanitare) has to be as wide as possible to allow its citizens to live and thrive in peace.

                  So the longer range missiles Azerbajan acquires ........... LOL
                  Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                  Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                  Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                    Aslanov


                    The Karabagh defence doctrine states that the buffer zone (cordon sanitare) has to be as wide as possible to allow its citizens to live and thrive in peace.

                    So the longer range missiles Azerbajan acquires ........... LOL
                    LOL !!!!
                    Loved that one ))))

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      House Adopts $48 Million for Armenia; $10 Million for Karabakh, Maintains Military Aid Parity

                      By Asbarez Staff on Jul 10th, 2009

                      Senate Appropriations Committee Maintains President’s Request for Armenia Aid While Cutting Foreign Aid Budget

                      WASHINGTON–On Thursday evening, the U.S. House of Representatives approved the earlier Appropriations Committee requests for $48 million in U.S. aid to Armenia and $10 million aid to Karabakh, while maintaining military assistance parity between Armenia and Azerbaijan as part of the fiscal year (FY) 2010 foreign assistance package, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA.)

                      House Appropriations Subcommittee on Foreign Operations Chairwoman Nita Lowey (D-NY), Congressional Armenian Caucus Co-chair Mark Kirk (R-IL) and Armenian Genocide resolution lead sponsor Adam Schiff (D-CA), all active supporters of Armenia assistance provisions, welcomed the House decision.

                      Rep. Kirk noted that the bill “also includes a new requirement for the Administration to consult with Congress before exercising its waiver authority for assistance to Azerbaijan granted under section 907 of the Foreign Assistance Act.”

                      Specifically, the bill states: “The Committee reaffirms that Section 907 of the FREEDOM Support Act is still in effect, pending a settlement of the ongoing dispute between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the status of Nagorno-Karabakh. The Committee supports the so-called “Minsk Process” that provides a forum for negotiations toward a peaceful settlement of the conflict, and encourages the Department of State to continue its efforts to reenergize the negotiating process this year. As this process moves forward, the Committee believes that all parties in the conflict must refrain from threats, incitement to the use of force, or other inflammatory rhetoric. Recognizing that the Congress gave the President broad waiver authority with respect to Section 907 in the fiscal year 2002 Appropriations Act and that this waiver has been exercised in every fiscal year since then, the Committee directs that the Department of State consult with the Committees on Appropriations before exercising this waiver for fiscal year 2010 to ensure that all conditions under the waiver provision are being fully met.”

                      Rep. Schiff noted that, for the first time, “the report accompanying the [foreign aid] bill references the policy of parity in military assistance provided to Armenia and Azerbaijan.” Despite Bush and Obama Administration calls to break military assistance parity, Congress has maintained the provision, concerned about providing greater military assistance to an Azerbaijani leadership which continues threats of war against neighboring Armenia and Nagorno Karabagh.

                      The FY 2010 House Appropriations bill keeps foreign military financing to both countries at $3 million and International Military Education and Training (IMET) assistance at $450,000 each.

                      The Senate Appropriations Committee approved President Obama’s request of $30 million in assistance to Armenia, while cutting the overall foreign aid funding budget. Similar to previous years’ measures, the bill does not make a specific assistance allocation for Nagorno Karabagh and remains silent on foreign military assistance and IMET funding.

                      “The ANCA welcomes House passage of the foreign aid bill, and particularly the increased assistance for Nagorno Karabagh and maintaining military assistance parity for Azerbaijan and Armenia,” reported ANCA Chairman Ken Hachikian. “Given the ongoing economic hardship caused by the Turkish and Azerbaijani blockades of Armenia, and President Aliyev’s consistent threats of war against his neighbors, we are disappointed with the Senate Appropriations Committee’s allocation of only $30 million for Armenia. We look forward to working with Senate and House conferees to ensure that the final bill reflects appropriate funding levels, which promote stability and economic progress in the region.”

                      The Senate has yet to consider its version of the foreign aid bill, after which Senate and House appropriators will confer on a final version of the measure, to be sent to President Obama for signature.

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