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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Why does Iran support Armenia about Karabakh issue?

    by Mehmet Fatih Öztarsu*

    The balance in Caucasia that shifted with the collapse of the Soviet Union caused a big change in the foreign policy vision of the states in the region.

    While examining the problems that emerged between republics, which gained their sovereignty, it is possible to see the changes in foreign policy of neighboring countries. The attempt by neighboring countries and international organizations to expand their influence into Nagorno-Karabakh, one of the region’s unsolved problems, indicate the results of the aforementioned changes in foreign policy expansion. The attitude of Iran, one of the dominant actors in the region, regarding the events occurring in Caucasia varies from time to time. For Iran, Russia’s loss of power after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the end of the threat of communism paved the way for the emergence of new threats. All kinds of groundswells influencing Iran via Caucasia throughout history caused, in the new political sphere, the spread of the threat of ethnic nationalism. The reason why Iran can’t ignore this threat is that Iran’s borders with neighboring countries are surrounded by different ethnic groups. Today, close to 25 million Azerbaijani Turks live in the Southern Azerbaijan region, which is on the Caucasian border of the country. Iran is worried about the activities of West-oriented units in the region that could carry out joint incursions with Russia about the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, the most important matter of conflict in South Caucasia, thereby Iran bears a varying attitude towards it because of Iran’s national security concerns. The attitude of Iran, which acts by using Islamic revolution discourse as a basis for its foreign policy just like in its other policies, regarding the Nagorno-Karabakh issue is to keep balanced relations with both sides. Iran must behave warmly to Armenia especially due to the ethnic structure of South Azerbaijan, and it is also believed that the country may be adopting such an attitude because of the instability of its alliances with big states. As for Armenia, which has closed its border checkpoints with Turkey and Azerbaijan and could have been faced with a dead end, but instead can meet its need to access other countries comfortably through Iran, and it can also establish important commercial and energy partnerships with the country. Iran mentioned that it respects the territorial integrity of countries right from the beginning of the Nagorno-Karabakh problem. Iran’s expressing this discourse as a principle and its engaging in conciliatory activities are policies that Iran pursues for the purpose of taking advantage of balances in the region in a way or for the purpose of minimizing prospective damages. With regards to this issue, in Baku in 1992, Iran’s foreign n affairs minister told Azerbaijani officials, for the first time that Iran can be mediator country between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Iranian Foreign Affairs Minister Mahmud Vaezi’s held talks in Baku and Yerevan in order to negotiate about the details of the ceasefire and the exchange of captives, however, Armenia’s invasion of Shusha’s and Lachin’s caused Iran’s conciliation attempts to fail.

    Iran under the thumb of Russia

    Feeling the dominance of Russia in all of the developments in the region, Iran again pursued a solution under Russia’s terms for the Nagorno-Karabakh issue. This resulted in the emergence of closer relations with Armenia. Additionally, Azerbaijan’s sympathy towards the Turkey-Israel strategic alliance towards the end of 1990s was responded to with Iran’s sympathy towards the Yerevan-Athens-Moscow alliance. With this alliance becoming ineffective in the aftermath of Sept. 11, Iran headed towards strengthening its relations with Turkey and Azerbaijan and from time to time it disapproved of Armenia’s invasion in Nagorno-Karabakh.

    The shifting attitude of Iran, which doesn’t mention any religious or ethnic terms while describing the Nagorno-Karabakh issue, may be explained in various terms. The threat that the Turkic society in South Azerbaijan may be sympathetic with Azerbaijan, in the case that the problem is solved, is one of Iran’s biggest concerns. According to Iran, Armenia is a country that should be counted among the ranks of Russia. And Turkey’s dominance in Caucasia may be decreased by through diplomatic tensions between Turkey and Armenia; and Iran can create some chances via the Armenia diaspora in the West and it can even gain support from the diaspora in terms of improving its image in the international community. As a matter of fact this latest issue is directly related to the Armenians in Syria that support the Assad regime. The attitudes of Iran, which considers Armenia as a means of changing the balance in the region and makes expansions based on their view of Armenia, about the Nagorno-Karabakh issue have been majorly influenced by anti-Iran discourses of the Abulfaz Elchibey period. Making an emphasis on sectarian integrity for South Azerbaijani people, Iran has made special efforts to strengthen cultural ties. It is unfavorable for Iran that the clashes taking place in the region affect its own land.

    Another issue is the necessity for the existence of a common policy that Iran can move together with Russia against Western impact on the region. It seems that Iran has joined the ranks of Russia with its pro-Armenia attitude, which has caused a separate power balance in the region, and enabled Iran to be less concerned about its national security. With its desire to avoid the West-leaning effect of Turkey in the region and to hinder the possible influence of Turkey on Turkic people with its pro-Armenia attitudes, Iran wants to be a more effective actor in the Nagorno-Karabakh problem. Recently repeating its offer to become a mediator between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Iran, just like in the policy pursued by Russia, desires to make its presence felt via this problem.

    Azerbaijan expecting more decisive stance from Russia

    In this matter, the message that Azerbaijan gave to Russia via its treatment of the Gabala Radar Station issue must also be handled. Keeping the Gabala issue as a trump card so far with regards to Moscow’s attitudes concerning the Karabakh issue, Azerbaijan wants to see a more decisive stance from Russia. According to the idea of some experts, Russia intends to mobilize this station and move it to Armenia or North Caucasia. With reference to recent radar station discussions, the role that Russia cast for Iran should be argued. Because of the showdown that started between Iran and Azerbaijan, inducing Russia and attempting to have good relations with Israel are important. Pursuing this way, Iran, which keeps on having problems with the West, desires to improve its image by means of strong lobbies from the Armenian diaspora, which carries out globally effective activities.

    All these issues feature the fundamental issues that determine Iran’s attitude towards the Nagorno-Karabakh problem. Iran, as the neighboring country, which pursues a pro-Armenia policy due to the effect of the Turkic population in South Azerbaijan, is important in terms of the collective development towards peace. With reference to its impact on the solution of the problem, Iran, which will be unable to sustain its anti-West and pro-Russia inclination in terms of the existing problems in the region, has an indisputable importance as a neighboring country. What Iran gained by means of the decisions that it issued as a requirement of the policies it pursued in the region is another matter that should be questioned. In addition to that, Russia’s continual lack of involvement in regards to the Iranian nuclear issue causes curiosity about what the new policies will be. Iran’s mediation discourse, which it has started to frequently repeat, gives the impression that in the short term Iran will pursue a more conciliatory way that is open to a showdown with Azerbaijan because of different expectations and inducements.

    *Mehmet Fatih Öztarsu is an analyst at the Center for International Strategy and Security Studies.

    Last edited by Surenas; 06-29-2012, 08:18 AM.

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      Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
      NRNADZOR ROAD IS BEING REPAIRED BY STATE BUDGET
      What the old village road looks like:

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        These oligarchs are going too far. Their bodyguards need to be hanged by their testicles, the military doctor that was beaten up by them has died


        Վահե Ավետյանը մահացավ
        29 Հունիսի 2012 - 20:07

        «Հարսնաքար» ռեստորանում դաժան ծեծի ենթարկված ռազմական բժիշկ Վահե Ավետյանը մահացել է:
        Այս մասին HayNews.am-ին հաղորդեցին Պաշտպանության նախարարության տեղեկատվության և հասարակայնության հետ կապերի վարչությունից:

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Զենքի լոբբինգ հայերի հաշվին


          Ինչպես հաղորդում են ԶԼՄ-ները, ԱՄՆ Պետդեպարտամենտը հանել է Ադրբեջանը այն երկրների ցուցակից, որոնց պատրաստվում է ռազմական ուղղաթիռային տեխնիկա վաճառել: Հայաստանի համար նման բարերարություն արվել է ԱՄՆ և Ադրբեջանի ռազմական ոլորտում բազմամյա համագործակցությունից հետո:

          Դրա հետ մեկտեղ, ամերիկացիները հասկանում են, որ չեն կարող Ադրբեջանի ներկայիս ագրեսիվ և հանդուգն պահվածքի պայմաններում շարունակել հրապարակայնորեն խրախուսել այն: Հատկապես, որ պետք է ավարտին հասցնել Հայաստանին Եվրատլանտյան կառույցներին աբսորբացնելու ծրագրերը, իսկ դրա համար անհրաժեշտ է ոչ միայն Հայաստանի կառավարության, այլ նաև հասարակության ձգտումը, հաշվի առնելով հայկական «աշխարհաքաղաքական մտածելակերպի» եզակիությունը:

          ԱՄՆ ռազմավարությունը ոչ մի դեպքում չի պարտվում, քանի որ Ադրբեջանը կարող է հեշտությամբ փոխհատուցել ԱՄՆ-ի սահմանափակումները՝ Ռուսաստանից և Իսրայելից զինամթերք գնելով: Այսպիսով ԱՄՆ-ը, պահպանելով իր դեմքն ու իմիջը, խնդիրները լուծում է Իսրայելի օգնությամբ, ապահովելով իր ռազմաարդյունաբերական համալիրի առաջընթացը: Ավելի օբյեկտիվ կլիներ ԱՄՆ հայտարարությունը Ադրբեջան զենք մատակարարելու անթույլատրելիության մասին, որպես ագրեսիվ երկրի:

          Իհարկե, քաղաքական պլանում Պետդեպարտամենտի որոշումը, անկասկած, կարևոր նշանակություն ունի Հարավային Կովկասում ագրեսիվության նախազգուշացման առումով, բայց ամերիկացիները չեն կարող ձևացնել, իբր դրանով Ադրբեջանը կհայտնվի մեկուսացման մեջ զենք գնելու մասով: Քաղաքական գործողությունները, ներառյալ ԱՄՆ դաշնակից պետությունների կողմից զենքի վաճառքը, չեն կարող չվերաբերվել Վաշինգտոնին, քանի որ առանց ԱՄՆ հետ համագործակցության, այդ երկրները չեն կարող զարգացնել իրենց ռազմարդյունաբերական համալիրը:

          Իսրայելը դարձել է Հարավային Կովկասի զենքի մատակարարը, այսինքն Վրաստանին և Ադրբեջանին, ինչը դարձել է տարածաշրջանում նրանց ագրեսիվ պահվածքի ու կոնֆլիկտայնության պատճառը: ԱՄՆ-ն ոչինչ չի ձեռնարկել այս կապակցությամբ: Ինչ վերաբերում է Ռուսաստանին, ապա նա, ըստ երևույթին, շատ ուրախ է Պետդեպարտամենտի որոշումից, քանի որ նոր հնարավորություններ են բացվում նրա համար՝ փող աշխատել դաշնակիցների արյան վրա, այսինքն՝ զենք մատակարարելով Ադրբեջանին, որը նախատեսված է Հայաստանի դեմ ագրեսիայի համար:

          Մոսկվայում, իհարկե, ուշադրությամբ հետևում են ԱՄՆ կոնգրեսի առանձին խմբերի գործունեությանը, որոնք ժամանակ առ ժամանակ ելույթ են ունենում Թուրքիային զենք մատակարարելու դեմ: Ներկայում ժամանակն է հետևել Ադրբեջանի զենք ստանալու պայմաններին:

          Իգոր Մուրադյան

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Vrej nuin bane karayr deneyr anglerenof inchi ches anum tenc?

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              Military doctor Vahe Avetyan who was murdered by filthy bodyguards of Nemets Rubo

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
                Vrej nuin bane karayr deneyr anglerenof inchi ches anum tenc?
                Te yess himnaganoum Hayerenov yem gartoum.
                Paytz yete ankleren e bedk, yev yete ga, intchi tche?
                ---------------------


                Lobbying Russian and Israeli MIC Interests



                According to the mass media, the U.S. State Department took Azerbaijan off the proposed list of recipient countries for upcoming sale of helicopter equipment. Such beneficence does not matter at all after many years of military cooperation between the U.S. and Azerbaijan.

                At the same time, the Americans understand that with the current aggressive and challenging behavior of Azerbaijan they cannot encourage it demonstratively. Moreover, it is necessary to finish the plan of absorption of Armenia by the Euro-Atlantic structures’, while for this purpose it would be good to have not only the aspiration of the Armenian leadership but also the society, taking into account the “particularity” of the Armenian “geopolitical thinking”.

                At the same time, the U.S. strategy does not lose since Azerbaijan can successfully compensate the U.S. ban with the help of the armament supply by Israel and Russia. So, the U.S., keeping its image, solves tasks with the help of Israel, ensuring progress of its military-industrial complex.

                It would have been much more substantiated if the statement by the U.S. administration urged ban on sale of weapon to Azerbaijan as an aggressor country by all the states, or at least, the U.S. and NATO allies.

                In the political aspect, such a decision by the State Department has real significance in the prevention of aggression in the South Caucasus but the U.S. cannot pretend that thus Azerbaijan will be isolated from weapon supplies. The political actions, including the armament supply by the U.S. ally states, can’t but be linked to Washington. Moreover, without cooperation with the U.S., these countries would be unable to develop their MIC successfully.

                Israel became a weapon supplier to the South Caucasus, Georgia and Azerbaijan, which turned out to be a factor for the aggressive behavior and conflict in the region. As to Russia, it seems quite happy with such a decision of the State Department since it will have new opportunities to make money at the expense of the blood of the ally, i.e. supplying weapons to Azerbaijan meant to be used against Armenia.

                In Moscow, they are attentively following the activities of separate caucuses of the U.S. Congress which oppose weapon supply to Turkey from time to time. Now it is time to track the conditions of acquiring weapon by Azerbaijan.

                Igor Muradyan

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                  Originally posted by Federate View Post
                  Military doctor Vahe Avetyan who was murdered by filthy bodyguards of Nemets Rubo

                  ------
                  Asdvadz hokin loussavori.

                  Paytz essbess hnaravor tchi.
                  Arnvazen mi ankam, veritz kloukh, saghin bidi garkin taden, hentz Nemetz gotchetzeal ANASSOUNITZ ssgssadz, vor polorin tass lini.
                  Ess dghen hassarag pjich tchi, sra nman panagoum dasnyag tchga.
                  Dasnyag gyanker e prgel, ou eli haryouravorner er prgelou...
                  Sra pokhan, mi kani DAVARNERI badjarav Chan Sadag yeghav.
                  El hnaravor tchi.
                  Anbayman bidi badjel, khssdakouyness.
                  Paytz nakh yev aratch Chef gotchetzeal Nemetze!
                  Yete votch ourich pani hamar, arnvazen nra hamar, vor klkhavor MARTASSBAN Anassoune panagoum yergou dari , Omari lantcherin, tzekheri metch tchi zarayel, intchbess garken e, ayl panagitz pakhel e, Chefi chnorhiv...
                  Dzarayadz liner, gyankoum zinvori gyank prgogh pjchgi vra mdov ankam tcher antzener tzerk partzratzenel...

                  Tchem assoum vor hasarag kaghkatzou vra gareli e.
                  Paytz Hay ssbayi kefin gbnele meghk e, el our mnatz vohmagayin dzedzele.
                  Yete Chefe garkin pand tchi nssdi, tchbadjevi, votch mi pan el tchi pokhvi.

                  Hentz nemetzi maman bedk e mi kitch la, vor myoussnere khelknere kloukhnernin havaken!
                  Last edited by Vrej1915; 06-29-2012, 11:47 AM.

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                    Serzh Sargsyan’s “Aghdam”


                    Addressing the EPP summit in Brussels, Serzh Sargsyan underlined that there is no alternative to reasonable concessions in the peace settlement of the Karabakh issue mediated by the OSCE Minsk Group.

                    It is not the first time Serzh Sargsyan dwelt on concessions. Moreover, once, he stated that Aghdam is not our homeland.

                    Almost the entire political class of Armenia, the opposition and government, build their attitude to the Karabakh issue on “compromise”. There are no other ideas or proposals. In Armenia, compromise is considered a sign of a good political tone and wisdom but the most important thing is sincere belief. Noting else could be expected taking into account the quality of the class composed of conformists, adventurers and political criminals servicing the criminal-oligarchic system for a long time now.

                    Judging by leaks, the West is felt likely to accelerate some agreement on the Karabakh issue to implement different projects in the region. In the case of Armenia, a “small concession” is required, like the European Union and U.S. officials hinted, in return for economic and political projects. Besides, it was hinted to Serzh Sargsyan in Brussels that they will give no money for the development of Armenia’s economy unless real reforms are carried out.

                    Nevertheless, the question if the West insists on “reasonable concessions” in the Karabakh issue in its programs with Armenia is still open. In case of radical domestic reforms in Armenia this demand is doubtless. The Armenian government does not go beyond declarative statements, makes no specific steps that would force the West to give an “ultimatum”.

                    In this sense, it is not ruled out that the “reasonable concession” is just an attempt of the Armenian power to “compensate” for the lack of reforms. More, it is not even ruled out that the Karabakh issue may again become a key factor in home developments to keep the situation under control ahead of the presidential elections.

                    But the times of “nimbleness” is past. Armenia needs domestic reform or we will miss prospects of development being forced to carry out “reasonable concessions”. No one will invest in a country where the authorities are ready to do whatever they can to strengthen their foothold Serzh Sargsyan, addressing the EPP summit in Brussels, underlined that the peace settlement of the Karabakh issue within the OSCE Minsk Group based on reasonable concessions has no alternative.

                    It is not the first time Serzh Sargsyan is dwelling on concessions. Moreover, once, he stated that Aghdam is not our homeland.

                    In general, almost the whole political class of Armenia, the opposition and government, build their attitude towards the Karabakh issue on “compromises”. There are no other ideas or proposals. In Armenia, the compromise is considered a sign of a good political tone and wisdom, but the most important - it is sincere belief. Noting else could be expected taking into account the quality of the class composed of conformists, adventurers and political criminals, which has long become a servant of the criminal-oligarchic system.

                    Judging by the news leakages, the feeling is that the West is going to accelerate some agreement in the Karabakh issue to implement different projects in the region. In case of Armenia, a “small concession” is required, like the European Union and U.S. officials hinted, in exchange of economic and political projects. Besides, Serzh Sargsyan was hinted in Brussels that they will give no money for the development of Armenia’s economy unless real reforms are carried out.

                    Nevertheless, the question whether the West insists on “reasonable concessions” in the Karabakh issue in its programs with Armenia is still open. In case of a radical reform in the home life of Armenia, this demand is doubtless. In this question, the Armenian power, besides declarative statements, has done no concrete step, which generated the West’s “ultimatum”.

                    In this sense, it is not ruled out that the “reasonable concession” is just a try of the Armenian power to “compensate” for the lack of reforms. More, it is not even ruled out that the Karabakh issue can again be made an axis factor of the home developments of which to control the situation prior to the presidential elections.

                    But the times for being “nimble” have ended. The home life of Armenia needs to either reform or we will lose any development prospect being forced to carry out “reasonable concessions”. No one will invest in a country where the authorities are ready to do everything they can to strengthen the criminal-oligarchic positions.

                    Hayk Aramyan

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      New War With Azerbaijan Unlikely Now, Says Armenian Military

                      Հրապարակված է՝ 29.06.2012
                      The Armenian military believes that a new war with Azerbaijani over Nagorno-Karabakh is unlikely to break out soon despite growing ceasefire violations in the conflict zone, Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian said on Friday.

                      “As a result of evaluating the situation, we have arrived at the conclusion that the likelihood of the resumption of hostilities is low today,” Ohanian told reporters. “Having said that, the armed forces and their leadership exist just for that and are prepared for that.”

                      Talk of renewed Karabakh war intensified in and outside the region after a recent series of deadly clashes on the Armenian-Azerbaijani border and around Karabakh, which left at least a dozen soldiers on both sides dead.

                      Citing their “exceptional bravery,” President Serzh Sarkisian on Friday gave medals to ten Armenian army officers and soldiers who were apparently involved in those incidents. Four of them -- Zohrab Balabekian, Karen Davtian, Hrach Sargsian and Vartan Ohanian -- were decorated posthumously.

                      Echoing statements by other Armenian leaders, Ohanian claimed that Azerbaijan provoked the latest upsurge in fighting to heighten pressure on international mediators seeking a peaceful solution to the dispute.

                      “By means of escalating the situation, they are attempting to influence international structures to speed up the Karabakh peace process,” he said, speaking at the Yerablur military cemetery in Yerevan. “They are also attempting to create an atmosphere of unilateral coercion, so to speak.”

                      “We have already been in such a situation of coercion before, when we were forced to go war. But we managed to come out of that situation well,” added the minister who played a major role in the 1991-1994 war.

                      Azerbaijan has blamed the Armenian side for the loss of life.

                      The United States, Russia and France have expressed serious concern at the recent truce violations which coincided with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to the South Caucasus. In a joint statement last week, the presidents of the three mediating powers urged the conflicting parties to respect the 1994 ceasefire and step up their efforts to agree on a framework peace accord drafted by the mediators.

                      Visiting Stepanakert on Friday, Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian reiterated that the so-called Madrid Principles of a Karabakh settlement have to be approved by not only Yerevan and Baku but also Karabakh’s ethnic Armenian leadership. The official Armenpress news agency quoted him as making the statement at a meeting with Karabakh President Bako Sahakian.

                      Nalbandian also announced that the U.S., Russian and French diplomats co-heading the OSCE Minsk Group will start another tour of the conflict zone “within about ten days.”

                      The Armenian military believes that a new war with Azerbaijani over Nagorno-Karabakh is unlikely to break out soon despite growing ceasefire violations in the conflict zone, Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian said on Friday.

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